#UMC in Alabama stop something, just not sure what yet

One would have removed language endorsing reconciliatory programs between religion and science. Another would have removed language stating that scientific descriptions of evolution did not in conflict with theology. A third petition would have added language supporting the teaching of creationism along with evolution in the public schools.

via Immigration and creationism at United Methodist annual conference in Mobile | al.com.

I’m tired at the moment, but it seems the UMC of southern Alabama tried to go full-blown Young Earth Creationist…and they were stopped.

General Conference is in a few years. I’ll have to watch if this is not something, this tilt to the crazy, taking place in other conferences. Ours starts tomorrow.


Why Creationism is Taught in Louisiana Schools – Seriously?

Sen. Elbert Guillory, D-Opelousas, said he had reservations with repealing the act after a spiritual healer correctly diagnosed a specific medical ailment he had. He said he thought repealing the act could “lock the door on being able to view ideas from many places, concepts from many cultures.”

“Yet if I closed my mind when I saw this man—in the dust, throwing some bones on the ground, semi-clothed—if I had closed him off and just said, ‘That’s not science. I’m not going to see this doctor,’ I would have shut off a very good experience for myself,” Guillory said.

via Louisiana and creationism: Law allowing religion to be taught in school survives repeal attempt..

That’s why. I wonder if “being able to view ideas from many places, concepts from many cultures” includes Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, and Native American creation stories and/or medicine instead of science?

Because, you know, historically speaking, Young Earth Creationism isn’t Jewish (nor Christian)… Wonder if we can teach Jon Levenson and John Walton believe the author of Genesis 1 meant ?

So, I guess I’ve been outed as an Atheist

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I and other bloggers have written posts on the school tests demanding that the correct answer to the age of the earth is 6000 years. The school in question has been named as the Blue Ridge Christian Academy. Several bloggers have since responded to this news as well.

Ken Ham has likewise responded with his usual calm, measured demeanor:

It seems that since the last presidential election, atheists have grown more confident about having something of a license to go after Christians. These secularists want to impose their anti-God religion on the culture. They are simply not content using legislatures and courts to protect the dogmatic teaching of their atheistic religion of evolution and millions of years in public schools. There is something else on their agenda: they are increasingly going after Christians and Christian institutions that teach God’s Word beginning in Genesis.

His response is simply put: You are an atheist if you do not believe in Young Earth Creationism. He pits himself and his cult of followers against all others in the classic us.v.them mentality where anyone who opposes him is an atheist, a secularist, and a holder to non-biblical Christianity. So, I guess that means I am one of those. I mean, I don’t believe in the deity known as Ken Ham, nor his Christianity, his science, or his martyrdom fantasies.

Read the words carefully… watch as the complex develops… Note the sidebar on Ham’s page as well. There are plenty of Christians who are doing the same thing he accuses atheists of doing. But, because he has the magical holy spirit he’s right, I guess. No matter many others who do not believe in Young Earth Creationism claim to be guided by the Spirit as well…

Also, what is “a biblical approach to dinosaurs?”

So many things wrong in this approach… but does it matter? He doesn’t listen – he simply denounces those who does not follow his cult and therefore is able to dismiss facts and evidences. Further, when you continue to talk to him, he’ll just claim persecution.

And because some of you won’t get the ironic intention of the title, I am not an atheist — well, I don’t believe in Ken Ham or the angry Loki he worships as god — but a Christian who holds to the orthodox Christian tradition, the same tradition Ham rejects in favor of himself. So, I guess if anyone is an atheist, it would be Ham. Happy Friday!

Also, check out this post by the venerable Dr. James McGrath about the origins of Young Earth Creationism, along with other recent posts on the topic.

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It’s this type of stuff Louisiana has decided is fact

First, you gotta read this:

This chapter is a revision of that which originally was published after one of my creation conferences by Colonial Hills Baptist Church in East Point, Georgia sometime in the early 1970’s. It also has been part of well over a hundred conferences in many states and several countries. For years it was part of my class notes for Genesis 1-11 entitled “In the Beginning,” for Central Baptist Seminary in Minneapolis where I was Director of Graduate Studies. It describes my abrupt awakening to the requirement by the catastrophic contents of the Book of Job that I recognize a post-Noahic flood, thoroughly Biblical, ice “age” catastrophe.

That’s right.. Job is writing about the Ice Age…Bernard E. Northrup (ThD, no relation to a PhD in sciences) was no doubt an devoted follower of God and by all accounts, a very pastoral man. But he is wrong in his Creationism and while a doctor of theology, he was not a doctor of geology, archeology, or other -ologies related to the actual age of the earth.

And now, Louisiana

The Louisiana state Senate Education Committee rejected a move to repeal the state’s Science Education Act on Wednesday, handing a defeat to opponents who have criticized the law for essentially allowing the teaching of creationism in science class.

Under the law, public school teachers are permitted to introduce “supplemental textbooks and other instructional materials to help students understand, analyze, critique, and review scientific theories in an objective manner.” While the Science Education Act says teachers may not “promote any religious doctrine,” it contains no specific ban on the teaching of creationism. Teachers and local school boards also aren’t required to obtain prior approval from the state Board of Elementary and Secondary Education before introducing supplemental material, the Associated Press reports.

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Page 2 of the Quiz – And No, it’s still not science and no, it’s still not education @AiG

Reportedly, we’ll have to wait until the end of June to discover what school did this.

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Check out the link above – sounds like a Christian private school focusing on classical education (the Latin gave that away).