Just How Far Do You Want to go with this Christian Nation thing?


Proposing a change to the Constitution to reflect the myth of the Christian nation is nothing new. It started as a reaction from the Yankees to the Confederacy’s constitution which explicit recognized God in it’s preamble,

We, the people of the Confederate States, each State acting in its sovereign and independent character, in order to form a permanent federal government, establish justice, insure domestic tranquillity, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity — invoking the favor and guidance of Almighty God — do ordain and establish this Constitution for the Confederate States of America.

In 1946 the Christian Amendment Association tried to insert into the Constitution the following words,

This nation devoutly recognizes the authority and law of Jesus Christ, Saviour and Ruler of nations, through whom are bestowed the blessings of Almighty God.

No Law written by men will make this a Christian nation; only the law written upon our hearts can transform, as Paul told Timothy, those around us.

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22 Replies to “Just How Far Do You Want to go with this Christian Nation thing?”

  1. It would seem to me though, that the people of America would want to at least seek for some kind of Judeo-Christian statement in their Constitution? The British have their Church of England, etc. like also the Scots and the Irish. It has seen social deconstruction amid the postmodernism, but at least it is still there on the books.
    Fr. R.

    1. I think that if they did, it would go against what the Founders had sought to establish. Further, regardless of it being written, doesn’t make it true.

  2. I stand by my previous comments …

    By no credible stretch of the imagination can we claim to be a Christian nation as long as pornography is the largest single segment of the entertainment industry, “romance” novels dominate book sales, and movies about serial killers are the major films of choice for entertainment.

    1. As I have said several times this week, to make this a Christian nation does not require laws or mandates, but the Gospel. Only in the Gospel can we make it a Christian nation and still abide by the pluralism which this country was founded upon.

    2. When the early English Methodists took on their own English Church and Nation, gin was what the people loved, and gambling. But the Methodist revival, which was gospel and first, regeneration and sancification alone…the Evangelical revival, brought the greatest change in Great Britannia. This is History!
      Fr. R.

      1. Exactly … and the revivals come by changing people, not by making meaningless legislative gestures.

        I’d love to see more of us put the effort into changing lives that we put into these kinds of declarations.

        (Or, for that matter, Christians spending as much money trying to take care of the poor that we spend trying to make sure that legislation to take care of the poor doesn’t get passed.)

        1. A——meeennnnnn.

          The Law of Moses never changed a soul, Wickle – it was the Gospel which brought the remission of sins. I believe that if Christians first sought unity, oh the wonders we could do.

  3. Joel,
    I know some Calvinists that are Post-Millennial, that really believe that there will come a good old Gospel renewal right before the end time! I am sadly not one who can see that happening, at least in whole. But God is sovereign and able certainly. But, it seems it will take judgement and God’s literal intervention to save even the “elect”.
    Fr. R.

    1. I agree with you here, Fr. Robert. Perhaps that is why I could care less about a few things. I think the world will act worse and worse – and it is up to the Church to maintain the Church, the holiness and the doctrine, not to worry about everything else.

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