It’s Jesus who obeys Mary

So I was told. Today is the Catholic Feast Day of Our Lady of Lourdes, one of many feast days in honour of the Blessed Virgin Mary. I happened to go to Mass this afternoon at St Patrick’s Catherdal at Parramatta in the western suburbs of Sydney. In the short sermon and in prayers, the priest Fr Suresh Kumar said, among other things:

* Mary is without sin.
* Mary wants us to love God.
* Mary’s full-time job is appear in visions to people and to tell us to love God.
* We have to pray to Mary because after we are dead we can’t pray so it is Mary who then prays for us to God.
* Mary is the Mother of God, and what Son wouldn’t do whatever His Mother tells Him to do. God does whatever Mary asks Him to do. So we have to pray to Mary to have our prayers answered.

The implication is Jesus obeys Mary’s every wish, and that Mary is effectively the CEO, if not the Chairman of the Board, and the Queen, of Heaven. And Mary seems to be omni-present – she would have to be if she is appearing in visions all over world, answering prayers and telling Jesus what to do all at the same. Where God the Father and the Holy Spirit come in in this arrangement I have no idea. Whatever it is, it is not Christianity.

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21 Replies to “It’s Jesus who obeys Mary”

  1. I don’t like it one bit. I’ve tried to understand why they believe this so feverently, but I just can’t.

    If Mary is without sin, then she must have been conceived without sin, so her mother must be without sin and so on?

    This Scripture always comes to mind:-

    ….And His mother and brothers came to Him, and they were unable to get to Him because of the crowd. Someone told him, “Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to see you.” But He answered and said to them, “My mother and My brothers are these who hear the word of God and do it.”

    I’m not for one moment denying that Mary is not the most blessed of all women, however, she is fallen and imperfect humanity, like the rest of us.

  2. I suspect that this is a bad application, though it does seem a logical extension of the “mother of God” idea.

    In any case, it’s what happens when you start adding to the Truth by coloring Scripture with other stuff.

    God does what Mary says? So, where was Mary at Creation?

  3. I’m sure Jesus did obey Mary when he was a kid.

    And I agree with WKen – bad application of the “Mother of God” idea. She was a mere mortal – special by any count – but not deification special.

  4. This is the kind of thing that the Roman Church needs to clean up with its priests and laity. For even in R. Catholic doctrine Mary the Mother of Jesus, is not a goddess, but an elect vessel of grace for the Incarnation. Only here is she the Mother of God, or the Theotokos. Before the Roman doctrine of the Immaculate Conception (1854), even Thomas Aquinas taught that the Virgin Mary had a sin nature at birth, though she did not commit sin itself. This is similar to the Eastern Orthodox position on Mary.

    1. From my time at St. Meinrad, I learned that misapplication and misappropriation is a concern among those who teach Catholic seminarians.

  5. Joel,

    Your correspondent may have accurately repeated the teaching that he heard from this Catholic Priest (I hope not), but this brief article does not communicate accurately the actual teaching of the Catholic Church, which is summarized in the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and is also faithfully taught by the vast majority of the Catholic Priests in the world.

    Blessings and Peace.

    KB

  6. I accept that it may well be that the priest got caught up in the moment and he got carried away in his devotion to Mary. I don’t think that all priests believe that Jesus obeys Mary.

    In his Encyclical ‘Redemptoris Mater’, John Paul II describes Mary as ‘like a true Morning Star” ‘, and the ‘gate of heaven’. And ‘ “the woman” spoken of by the Book of Genesis (3:15) at the beginning and by the Apocalypse (12:1) at the end of the history of salvation’.
    http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/john_paul_ii/encyclicals/documents/hf_jp-ii_enc_25031987_redemptoris-mater_en.html

    But the priest is not that far off the official belief. The Encyclical says that Jesus is the only way to the Father, but then constantly argues that Mary is also a/the way to Jesus and the Father.

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