In Defense of Love : Video Summation

The Robot Pirate Ninja, more commonly known as Roy has issued a video summation of his argument in defense of gay marriage, and in a sense, homosexuality, or rather the ability to love whom one wishes to love. I have attempted, rather feebly, to offer a video response of my own. His response has a bit of profanity in it, or I would post it. It is your choice to view it, and if you can stand the brutal words, then watch it. I have attempted to answer his points as I see them. I do hope that this is not the end of the conversation.

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.
(2 Timothy 3:16-17 NKJV)

Therefore, to him who knows to do good and does not do it, to him it is sin.
(James 4:17 NKJV)

So He came to Nazareth, where He had been brought up. And as His custom was, He went into the synagogue on the Sabbath day, and stood up to read. And He was handed the book of the prophet Isaiah. And when He had opened the book, He found the place where it was written: “The Spirit of the LORD is upon Me, Because He has anointed Me To preach the gospel to the poor; He has sent Me to heal the brokenhearted, To proclaim liberty to the captives And recovery of sight to the blind, To set at liberty those who are oppressed; To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD.” (Luke 4:16-19 NKJV)

Jesus said to him, “”You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind.’ (Matthew 22:37 NKJV)

Aug., de Doctr. Christ., i, 22: Or otherwise; You are commanded to love God “with all thy heart,” that your whole thoughts — “with all thy soul,” that your whole life — “with all thy mind,” that your whole understanding — may be given to Him from whom you have that you give. Thus He has left no part of our life which may justly be unfilled of Him, or give place to the desire after any other final good ; but if aught else present itself for the soul’s love, it should be absorbed into that channel in which the whole current of love runs. For man is then the most perfect when his whole life tends towards the life unchangeable, and clings to it with the whole purpose of his soul.

that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height– to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God. (Ephesians 3:17-19 NKJV)

But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:14 NKJV)

But these speak evil of whatever they do not know; and whatever they know naturally, like brute beasts, in these things they corrupt themselves. (Jude 1:10 NKJV)

These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit. (Jude 1:19 NKJV)

whose end is destruction, whose god is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame–who set their mind on earthly things. (Philippians 3:19 NKJV)

Who is wise and understanding among you? Let him show by good conduct that his works are done in the meekness of wisdom. But if you have bitter envy and self-seeking in your hearts, do not boast and lie against the truth. This wisdom does not descend from above, but is earthly, sensual, demonic. For where envy and self-seeking exist, confusion and every evil thing are there. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, willing to yield, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality and without hypocrisy. Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace. (James 3:13-18 NKJV)

I have attempted to included the scriptural references that I mentioned, but I might have missed one or two. I have never done anything like this, and I am not sure how well it will go over. Please keep the comments to the subject matter and not the speaker. Some of us blessed with more brains than looks.

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14 Replies to “In Defense of Love : Video Summation”

  1. Let me give some feedback as I watch this…maybe a few misconceptions have snuck in here between us.

    First off, I love to type. Sometimes, however, it is easier to talk. And then we get to see body language and hear “tone” which provides a far greater understanding of meaning than black and white words on a page.

    We do have another difference. I haven’t owned a car in a number of years. I felt it was wrong to make my life more convenient through what I saw as the suffering of others and a war over natural resources (not saying that you think it is right, just what I think is wrong…you touch on this distinction when talking of “judgment”).

    Oh, and if I put on my glasses (I wear contacts), and gained (sorry…) about 30 pounds, we would look like brothers, I think. This would be easier to demonstrate if you joined me in physical fitness levels, but I know that is a tall order. All I do is walk a lot (having no car makes this easy, although not having one can be a hindrance at times, and is not a viable option for everyone) and try not to eat when my stomach is full.

    And you are not ugly, at all. You seem to be doing much as my younger sister is doing, and hiding yourself behind yourself (some people do it literally, with flesh). You look to me as many others do, as a literal, beautiful, child of light (that’s goes back to the physics stuff).

    We also disagree about nuclear technology, which is both energy creator and life destroyer. It is our choice on how we use it. All life on this planet came from our friendly neighborhood fusion reactor, after all (the Sun).

    And I agree our goals are the same, although I picked a different word than “betterment.” I like the made-up word “embiggenment.” As in, “The Embiggenment of Humankind.”

    And I don’t think of God as a “he” (or a “she”). I know we disagree on that point.

    I would also disagree about the “poverty of spirit” in the Middle East. That is another discussion. Like I said…this discussion is expanding a great deal.

    LOL at the “love animals” thing. I speak with the voice of the streets, and they ain’t afraid to call it was it is there. I’m like ‘The Dude’ or “The Big Lebowski” in that regard.

    “Not so quick after all” LOL again. Yea, I do the same thing. Sometimes those “tangents” can go on for a while…I like the thought bubble thing.

    BTW, I do my videos with a $400 or so straight to harddisk video camera and some $70 editing software. One USB cable to the laptop and the youtube is two clicks away. It works really well, IMHO, and has saved me enough time to pay for itself many times over.

    “It’s not wise if you are married.” LOL x3.


    Part 3

    I never thought I was a preacher either, but as you say, some times things just need to be said. In person. In public.

    [as a curious side-note, I love my laptop too. If I wasn’t typing this reply on it (with it’s spare battery), I would have lost this reply, as the power in my apartment building just flickered off and then back on. Battery back-up power is GOOD and, IMHO, spiritual.]

    As a general note, maybe we can agree to limit the next round to one 10-minute video in order to keep this conversation more focused, and easier for others to catch up to (and it makes it easier to link the videos on YouTube, if you haven’t done that yet). I can, and often do, go off on tangents, but they make focus difficult, as now there are many things you have said I could reply to.

    My reply will mainly focus on the parts of the Bible you have quoted here mixed with few from my other “bibles” (those on logic, anthropology, human nature, and, of course, quantum physics…all written by what people call “atheists”) and some of your comments that hopped out at me.

    Thanks again, and I hope this finds you well.
    -R

  2. Stumbled upon this post while searching through old posts in the “homosexuality” category. I’m pretty new to the blog…would you say that this still generally reflects your position on the issue, if you don’t mind me asking?

    1. No.

      No, not all. I had to make a choice tho – either to remove everything I had changed or leave it up to discuss. You should see some of the other posts!

      1. “Those who are ready to kill those who are being homosexual…hands up!”

        I’m not sure if you have seen this video on the NY Times, but I thought you might be interested:
        http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/23/opinion/gospel-of-intolerance.html?src=me&ref=general&_r=0

        I’ve been through most of your posts on homosexuality…and I actually find it a bit difficult to nail down your position. Maybe that’s the point: to not be so black and white, and to not claim certainty when certainty is hard to come by.

        1. My position early on was of the conservative position. Now, I think we have labeled those who love differently than me this word to stigmatize them.

          Homosexuality is not in Scripture – nor is it condemned, nor is it harmful.

          In this world of hate, if you can love and be loved, God bless you.

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