How does God still speak?

I believe that the Spirit of Truth of which Jesus speaks regarding in John 14-16 is the one way which God still speaks to us. How is this Spirit manifested? Various ways.

For starters, I believe that God pushes us (and yes, that is a way of speaking) through Science and Scholarship. Science pushes us to examine our world (and for us panentheists, you know what that means), our universe, and into a deeper philosophical discussion about the nature of reality. I tend to follow the laws of thermodynamics a bit and believe that for now, they define the physical universe. So, sometimes, I sit and mediate upon them and how they tell us about God. Science has pushed us into looking at medicine, miracles, and a host of other issues, which, if we listen, we will see that God is speaking us forward.

Scholarship does much the same thing with Scripture. We struggle with it. Exodus has nearly none to none evidence to support it as the biblical account states it. Genesis has been shown not to be about Creation. Paul didn’t write all the Pauline books. This has propelled our faith forward, and in some ways, backwards (which is sometimes a good thing when you need an anchor). Many of us are moving to a more holistic faith, focusing on Church Tradition while still holding to Scripture. The Spirit dwells in the Church, but only speaks through the Scripture. We are moving to regain a hold in Tradition, some of us, whether it is the Tradition of the Patriarchs or the Reformation. We realize that we have gone far off base with literalism and fundamentalism.

Does God still speak in visions and dreams? Of course. I mean, how else does the Divine inspire us to pursue change, justice, science and scholarship? Further, when we get beyond the patina of our ill-formed traditions, the Spirit can once again speak through the Scripture.

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9 Replies to “How does God still speak?”

  1. If one doesn’t take the scripture as infallible, how does one know what to base their visions or dreams on? We need a standard to base them on. An objective truth, if you will.

    1. No one, at all, in all of Scripture, ever said that Scripture was infallible and they got by. Why is it that modern people need an infallible Scripture? Is their faith less than that of their ancestors? I think so.

      We move forward by seeking the will of God. That’s why we had the gifts of discernment and the Spirit was given long before Scripture was written.

      1. No true prophecy to anyone has ever conflicted with the word of God. They got by because they had a ruler to measure by. But the religious folk killed the prophets.

        1. But that makes no sense.

          Scripture is not the word of God. It contains it, but that is about it.

          Further, there was, for the great majority of the Faith (Jewish and Christian) there was no written Scripture. So, your point doesn’t hold water.

          The prophets were religious as well. Jeremiah was a priest, you know. I wouldn’t go about falsely separating things according to today’s modals.

          1. Amos picked figs. His hands were purple with fig juice.
            Most Jews in the early church hand the scriptures practically memorized. And the early church was a body, not individual lone rangers like today. For every local church that Paul and other apostles planted, the Gents were taught enough. But we have the scriptures now, and the devil does everything possible to destroy the body.

          2. More than likely, Amos was also a rich guy.

            I’m not sure how that plays into the conversation.

            So, because we have erred and gone astray, now we have to declare the Scriptures infallible? Surely not. Where is our faith? Ephesians says that the Spirit dwells in the Church. Jesus says in John that the Spirit will guide us into all truth. Seems to me that the New Testament gave the Community the authority you give Scripture. I think I’ll go with the New Testament.

          3. I’m not sure your question.

            The idea of fulfilled in Matthew and Luke doesn’t mean what people think it means. It means to be brought to completion. In other words, Jesus completed the Scriptures. He was the new Israel. He had accomplished the new Exodus, ended the Exile, and the such.

            His story was the incarnation of the story of Scripture.

            Only recently, when we forgot how to read Scripture, have begun to think that there are ‘prophecies’ in Scripture.

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