Conversion to Catholicism because of the Eucharist

I suspect that some will have a lot to say about this later, but I found this story interesting (ht) in which a charismatic Protestant converted to Catholicism because of a Revelation regarding the Eucharist:

I am Tim Bogan a former protestant healing evangelist that has converted to Catholicism, because of the Eucharist.  While ministering in a Fire of Faith Revival in Greenville, IL the Holy Spirit opened my eyes to the meaning of John Chapter 6.  The next morning, which was the last time I have spoken as a protestant minister, I preached on my revelation of the Eucharist.  So, for those that have not heard my full testimony I invite you to listen and let it increase your Catholic Faith!

I gave this testimony at Our Lady of Prompt Succor in Chauvin, LA on March 2011.

You can find and listen to it here.

I have to say that my view on the Eucharist is pretty high, but I don’t know if it is high enough to make me convert.

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9 Replies to “Conversion to Catholicism because of the Eucharist”

  1. a pentecostal ‘heler’ becoming a catholic isn’t much of a stretch. both replace scripture with something else. catholics ‘supplement’ it with tradition and pentes with ‘inner experience’.

    i’d be more impressed with a member of al-qaeda becoming a jew.

  2. Sorry – I don’t buy it. In the first place, I have serious philosophical problems of my own concerning the way the Catholic tradition has hijacked the Eucharist into something quasi-magical. In the second place, I regret the fact that most Christian thinking on the Lord’s Supper is derived from the Catholic tradition, depends far too much on ‘what happens to the bread and wine’ and not enough on ‘what happens to the believer’ and completely loses sight of the original context in a communal ‘salvation meal.’

    I don’t doubt that Tim has had some kind of personal spiritual experience which has led him to focus on the Eucharist, but on historical and philosophical grounds I won’t be following him. I’m happy for him if his experience has led him into a deeper experience of God, but I still have reservations about what it truly means.

      1. Like Tony, I’m glad if the man has drawn closer to God. I’m just doubtful, if he’s calling his experience a “revelation”, that he’s putting it into a proper theological category.

  3. “catholics ‘supplement’ it with tradition and pentes with ‘inner experience’.”

    And American Southern Baptists ‘supplement’ all too often with bibliolatry and cultural fundamentalism.

    1. To be clear, I wasn’t referring to the RC tradition, but to the development of tradition in the patristic Early Catholic Church which became RC and Orthodox in time. Both were heavily dominated by Greek philosophical categories, and completely lost the original Hebrew context. It was that which drove the exploration of what happens to the elements, resulting in such theories as transubstantiation, consubstantiation, etc. The original communal salvation meal, a transformed Passover if you like, says so much more about what it would mean to be a Eucharistic community, and a fellowship of disciples. To much of what has passed as Eucharistic theology and practice seems to me to be utterly irrelevant and indeed misleading.

      As to ‘supplementing’ with whatever else, I refer to the so-called Wesley Quadrilateral: Scripture, Tradition, Reason, and Experience. There must be a proper conversation between the components; in this case, he seems to me to have privileged experience over all the others, and indeed failed to test that experience (eg 1 Jn.4:1).

  4. “I have to say that my view on the Eucharist is pretty high, but I don’t know if it is high enough to make me convert.” This sounds precisely what the Jews who were following Jesus said after he did the bread of life discourse. John 6:60 “Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this said, “This is a difficult statement; who can listen to it?” 61But Jesus, conscious that His disciples grumbled at this, said to them, “Does this cause you to stumble?…” I pray you will ask the Holy spirit to reveal the truth. Jesus gave everything to us and the Eucharist is the salve that gives us strength to carry our cross until we get to go home.

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