A Challenge to Jason and others – Rome Sweet Rome

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Jason recently posted – and I won’t comment on his other comments except to say that telling someone that they are wrong is not an injustice; an injustice is child trafficking – that he recently picked up Dr. Scott Hahn’s book, Rome Sweet Rome and read it. Well, since there is some discussion on Catholics and Catholic Theology, I thought that this might be a good time to do this give and take on the blogosphere.

Especially since Lent is coming up.

So, here’s the deal. Order the book and let’s dig into Scott’s first treatise on leaving Protestantism for Catholicism. Let’s do it fairly and as best we can, as Christians.

I admit, there was a long time of my life that I was ANTI-Catholic. Then again, I was anti-insert your denomination, sect, or communion of choice here. Now?

Now I think that it is time to try to look at things through John 17.

Let’s give Scott a fair chance to hear him out. Jason said that it was a sad story. I dunno, but I will.

I propose that we’ll read the book, a chapter or so at  a time and post our thoughts and links to others participating. Who knows, maybe it’ll just be me and Jason. If you don’t have a blog and want to post it on here, let me know.

But, always, John 17.

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11 Replies to “A Challenge to Jason and others – Rome Sweet Rome”

  1. The injustice is found in the fact that the “dilettante” tag was used when we referenced some source documents. We were told to read Hahn. When I read Hahn, he said to read the source documents.
    It’s not being a dilettante if you’ve spent some time with documents that the theologian recommends.
    There are also degrees of injustice. Some are greater than others. We all know that child trafficking is a greater injustice than unjust name calling.
    That being said, this particular discussion is like beating a dead horse for me. I simply don’t have the time to continue. Perhaps I can pick it up at a later date, but March one of the busiest months of the year for me.
    Anyway, no matter what I say, I’ll be considered wrong. Who wants to play the game when the results are already determined?

  2. Jason,

    Only one person called only one person a dilettante and it wasn’t you. Plus, that’s not really an injustice.

    You last paragraph seems to fore-judge others for fore-judging you.

    Also, the point of this is to get others into the conversation. I think that it is important to examine Hahn, especially since he is so well recommended. And I would say that to read about Trent and Vatican II and the Catechism is not the same as reading all of those documents.

    March is slamming for me too, actually. Could be in April…

    But, I will post my thoughts on the book as I read it. See what we find.

    1. I understand your approach as far as the discussion.
      About the dilettantism, Jim commented on Jeremy’s blog that my post was “more of the same”. That’s what I was referring to. It’s also unjust, because it is wrong.
      Yes, I’ve read some in Trent and VII. I’m no expert, but one does not need to be to see there are serious differences there.
      Honestly, right now, it’s not a conversation that I want to be in. If I had time, perhaps so. If I had the disposition, perhaps. Right now, any more controversy will not be good for me.

        1. Please don’t think that I’m forgetting the subject. I’m reading much. In fact, I have a Hahn book on tap to read.
          It’s a “me” thing right now. I must pace myself.
          My sanctification also calls for me to back down, or I’ll get too emotional. It’s not necessarily the discussion that makes that happen, but the mass of things happening, so I have to choose what is important.

          1. I understand that as well – which is one the things about discussing books like Hahn’s slowly and openly. I can tell you now, without having read it, that I suspect that I will not agree with his conclusion, but the fun of posting through it is to post against myself.

  3. I enjoy engaging with RC theology. Certainly to understand it – you first need to understand that its written in the context of church community…whereas it appears too much of the Protestant is individualistic.

    However my stumbling block in regards to crossing the Tiber is to do with the veneration of Mary and Communion….plus I’m married and called into the pastoral ministry.

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