Woman, will you please just shut up!

1st Timothy 2.19-15 has been explained a variety of ways, from the extreme to the ‘Paul obviously didn’t write this’. For those of us who believe that he did, and can see that this passage stands in opposition to other passages which indicate equality for women, we are left with either a contradiction or a twist. What exactly did Paul mean as he wrote that to Timothy, especially given his previous statements about women?

For the second time in as many weeks, Daniel Kirk has incited the biblioblogosphere –

But we need to say more about this passage as well. Because not only does the ancient church serve as a living counter-point to this passage of scripture, almost every modern-day church does as well—even those who cling to the prohibition of women teaching on the basis of a commitment to the Bible as the inerrant word of God. To see how this is so, let’s broaden our vision to the other commands contained in this paragraph.

For me, I think that some of it may be found via the context of the situation in Ephesus.

Anyway, others are offering their views on Daniel’s blog. What say you?


He has written another post on the subject as well.

Joel L. Watts
Joel L. Watts holds a Masters of Arts from United Theological Seminary with a focus in literary and rhetorical criticism of the New Testament. He is currently a Ph.D. student at the University of the Free State, analyzing Paul’s model of atonement in Galatians. He is the author of Mimetic Criticism of the Gospel of Mark: Introduction and Commentary (Wipf and Stock, 2013), a co-editor and contributor to From Fear to Faith: Stories of Hitting Spiritual Walls (Energion, 2013), and Praying in God's Theater, Meditations on the Book of Revelation (Wipf and Stock, 2014).

2 thoughts on “Woman, will you please just shut up!

  1. Hi Joel

    I wish that the passages 1 Timothy 2:9-15 fell under the category of Paul's use of Prosopopeia (sp?) as in Romans 2:3-4. Unfortunately it does not.

    However,in light of his ' slam ' in his written dialogue with (whoever) in 1 Cor 14:34-36 it is difficult to believe that he would then turn and say in another place that women should keep silent. Learn at home and not teach in church. So,there must be a twist or something going on in that particular church that Timothy was Pastor (1 Timothy 2:9-15)

    The Apostle would not (under Inspiration) tell the Corinthian believer(s) one thing and then tell Timothy to deal with the women of his flock in a different manner.


  2. That is my thought, Seroled. It looks like that Dr. Kirk has a lively discussion going on, and is pushing people into a direction which is beneficial.

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