Beck, Hagee, 7 Mountains and Dominionism

Again, PJ, with thanks for ruining my day:

Instead, I want to use this to further explore something I mentioned last week in my “The Religious Right and Six Degrees of Dominionism” post: though not every person who shares a stage with a controversial figure can be said to share that figure’s views, those who either invite such figures to participate in their events or else themselves agree to appear at events hosted by such figures are offering, on some level, their validation of such views.

In the case of last night’s Beck program, it would be unfair to say that Robert George shares the radical views of John Hagee just because they shared the stage; but it is fair to say that Beck does, at least in part, or else he would never have invited Hagee on to participate in this panel.  By the same token, by appearing on Beck’s program, George is signaling that he is entirely comfortable using that venue as an outlet through which he is eager to share his own views with an audience who shares Beck’s views.

Ugh… but you can read the rest here.

Something on the seven mountains…

And just for you prophetic people,

“This calls for a mind with understanding: The seven heads of the beast represent the seven hills where the woman rules. They also represent seven kings. Five kings have already fallen, the sixth now reigns, and the seventh is yet to come, but his reign will be brief. The scarlet beast that was, but is no longer, is the eighth king. He is like the other seven, and he, too, is headed for destruction. (Rev 17:9-11 NLT)

I note that Wallnau states,

‘You are called to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom, and the Kingdom rules over all of these mountains.’

Stay with me for a minute -

  • Wallnau identified seven mountains and one to rule over them.
  • John writes of seven mountains/hills with one to rule over them.

Anyone? Anyone at all see anything wrong with this whatsoever?

This is the stuff that Beck and Hagee is tied too.

I guess his ‘eighth’ nation is the kingdom of the nation. So…one nation to rule over the church, etc… so…one government over all points of culture… so…one world government? Hey, just saying… And really…the business mountain rules the Church? And isn’t he quoting from a disputing portion of Mark’s gospel? And really? Demons in the Systems?

Actually, vater is the German word for father, while fuhrer is more like leader, but he has gotten so much else wrong, why worry about that?

Janet Porter, Dominionist – Discernment Ministries are ‘Cultural Nazis’

PJ is keeping up with these types, more than I am these days, I reckon, and does a fine job at it.

From here:

Porter has dedicated her entire column to attacking Discernment Ministries as a bunch of “cultural Nazi’s” who want to see hymns “re-written to praise Barack Hussain Obama”:

We now have two generations who are lost in the lies of humanism, evolution and homosexuality, facilitated into fornication and abortion, trapped in pornography and devastated by divorce. Congratulations.

If you’re still having a hard time discerning what to do, here’s a helpful hint: if you find yourself on the same side as the ACLU, homosexual activists, the baby killers and the enemies of God, chances are, you’re on the wrong side.

Considering that Leslie was the head of Iowa Right to Life in the 1980s, Porter’s attacks ring hollow, as does her claim that neither she nor her allies “support a ‘dominion theology’ that seeks to establish a theocracy,” especially given that the 7 Mountains Theology under which she organized her May Day 2010 rally has this as its goal:

A government can potentially function as a virtual theocracy, but only as the individuals in power allow themselves to be puppets (i.e. servants) of the theocracy (God’s rule and reign). The goal is to bring the influence of heaven to bear on whatever political machinery that exists … One of the primary roles of future government leaders will be to instruct in righteousness. The more God’s judgments are poured out on earth, the more explicitly will they be able to give that instruction.

Remember, Dominionists are intent on establishing a theocratic government, seeing this is necessary to bring Christ back.

Warren’s P.E.A.C.E. Plan and Wagner’s Dominionism

This is sort of an answer to someone about Rick Warren’s involvement with Dominionism which is currently being led by C. Peter Wagner:

C. Peter Wagner yet again – Bruce Wilson finds an interesting quote from Wagner’s 2008 book Dominion! How Kingdom Action Can Change the World, in which he discusses Rick Warren’s “P.E.A.C.E.” Plan, which seeks to improve conditions in Africa (p. 174):

I think the P.E.A.C.E. plan fits most comfortably into Phase One, the “social action” phase of strategies for obeying God’s cultural mandate. The Phase Two emphases on strategic-level spiritual warfare and associated activities have not been placed front and center. And crucial to Phase Three, as I am defining it, are such things as apostolic/prophetic government of the Church, the Church (including apostles) in the workplace, the great transfer of wealth, dominion theology and the 7-M mandate.

via Warren’s P.E.A.C.E. Plan and Wagner’s Dominionism « Bartholomew’s Notes on Religion.

How odd that the leading voice of Dominionism, C. Peter Wagner, and the leading Evangelical voice, Rick Warren, are connected? What? Know ye not that Wagner was Warren’s doctrinal adviser?

Dominionist Patricia King wants to make movies

I’ve tried to stay away from the Elijah List’s comedy hour/house of horrors, but everyone once in a while, I get an email that makes me laugh/gets my dander up. Such as this one. As part of the Seven Mountain Mandate these dominionists say that they must take over different areas of culture (Business, Media, Education, Entertainment, Government, Family, Religion). One of these ‘mountains’ is the entertainment industry. Seriously. Before Christ can come back, the Church has to make movies.

The Lord has been speaking to me for a number of months regarding the entertainment industry and His plans for the release of inspired media and strategies. There is coming (and has already begun) an invasion of Holy Spirit inspired entertainment media that will transform nations and mindsets for His glory. God is raising up a media army that will truly conquer the media mountain of influence in the nations. I saw this army arising to communicate, facilitate and greatly influence music, movies, television programs, webisodes, advertisements and creative media festivals.

You remember in Matthew 28.19g, where Christ says to do this? You know, ‘Go into all the world, and make couch potatoes, creating propaganda films, and sitcoms, and reality televisions shows to prepare the way for an invasion by my army.’ Yeah, you remember that don’t you?

By the way, she also notes that new angels of creativity, or as the Greeks say, muses, are being released upon unsuspecting, and uncreative people, to accomplish this goal.

Because Hollywood is just too evil to convert, this new Army of Media will have to start from scratch:

Many Christians will receive this revelation and will move forward to follow Him and find each other in the process. This company of reformers will not be bought or sold. Their hearts will be set apart for their King and not for their own agendas. They are surrendered vessels and money is not their God or their motivation. Fame is not their passion. They will be like David’s mighty men and do whatever it takes to serve their King and give Him what He longs for.

In other words, the unions for actors and screenwriters will not be allowed.

Is it me, are does she have a martyrdom complex? I mean, even network chiefs are going to have to die for the creation of this new army -

I saw leaders in the media realm laying their lives down for others. There was no competition and everyone was being celebrated. Many networks were forming. The vision was so beautiful. Everyone was serving each other in order to bring forth glory for the King. Standards of humility, grace, love, camaraderie and faith were being lifted up.

Oh, and by the way, church buildings, well, they will be the new theaters -

I saw churches hosting films, movies, documentaries and arts and media festivals. I saw the face of many churches changing and media centers were springing up everywhere. Church buildings were continuing to be houses of worship, but in addition to hosting church families, they were literally being changed into production houses, music, art, dance studios and theaters. Some were also hosting film and arts festivals. Christian Film and Art Festivals were springing up everywhere. Entire communities were impacted as the masses flooded into the churches to watch various forms of media.

And suddenly, because of the money to be made in this new business, people will suddenly forget about the money and focus on the Prophet (false prophet, that is)

God is going to give Christians creative and anointed revelation for advertisement development for godly and wholesome products and companies. These advertisements will carry great favor and influence. The agencies will prosper but will not be focused on the “profit” but on the “Prophet.” They will be used to saturate the hearts of the viewers with the presence and conviction of the Spirit.

Well, that’s about enough of that. Oh, and yes, less we forget, the seven mountain mandate is very biblical -

“Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits.” (Rev. 17.9)

These mountains present the kings/kingdoms which give rise to the final government authority, in prophetic Scripture. Nothing in Scripture tells us to build mountains, or to take-over mountains, yet, these people have opted to use language associated with the End Times bad guys for their new movement.

Now, where do you think that comes from?

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More 7 Mountains Nonsense – Spoke it and Soak it

Seriously – DON’T buy this cd.

Seven Mountain Symphony” — Jesus Is Speaking Through Some Of His Chosen Generals In This Hour To Release Revelation and Impartation!

This CD is a new sound! It’s a “Spoke and Soak” — it has the spoken word with soaking music. There is not a sound like it in the earth. It is a new sound for a new day.

Seven Mountain Symphony is a sound commissioned and inspired by Holy Spirit. It is a symphonic ensemble of some of the leading apostolic and prophetic voices of this generation — the voice of Jesus speaking through some of His chosen generals in this hour to release both revelation and impartation.

Some of the speakers you will hear in this set are: Dr. Lance Wallnau, Bill Johnson, Rich Marshall, Os Hillman, Rick Joyner, David vanKoevering,  and Johnny Enlow.

This unique CD set is a symphonic ensemble of some of the leading Christian voices of this generation. It is a sound that the Lord has chosen to be released onto the earth for this season to help effect the transformation of culture as we know it and exalt the Mountain of the Lord.

Seven Mountain Symphony, however, is more than just a sound. It is the voice of unity and harmony, a voice upon many waters, and a voice of reformation. It is the voice of Jesus speaking through some of His chosen generals in this hour to release both revelation and impartation into the hearts and lives of those who will hear the sound of Heaven within this symphonic ensemble.  On each track, you will hear beautiful instrumentation with a spoken word addressing transformation or one of the 7 mountains: government, family, religion, business, education, arts and entertainment, and media.

By the way, ‘nations’ are people, not geo-political entities

HT

Jake White’s church is ‘toxic Christianity’ (Hillsong invades South Africa)

Hillsong Church, Australia’s charismatic religious movement, which established itself in Cape Town just six months ago, has been described as “toxic Christianity” by some, but as having a “vibrant and positive outlook on life” by others.

With the World Cup-winning former Springbok coach Jake White, as well as controversial Western Province flank Luke Watson, in its congregation, the church has said it wants to be “so large that the city and nation cannot ignore it”.

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Lance Wallnau and Rick Joyner want your money

Lance Wallnau, Rick Joyner, David Yarnes, Rich Marshall, and Eric Metaxas want your money. Seriously, they are promoting a Kingdom Business Conference, which they say,

The Kingdom Business Association has gained amazing traction, becoming a format for prophetic insight that has proved accurate and desperately needed for these times. If you are a Christian business person, or have a marketplace ministry, you will not want to miss this conference.

Seriously, that’s all that I can find. Here are the media sets from the 2008 conference.

This conference is devoted to teaching the most powerful and effective kingdom principles that are a proven foundation for success for those engaged in business leadership and management in almost any field.  It is also devoted to confirming prophetically the calling of those who come, and to impart prophetic vision that can help shape our times. – Rick Joyner

Here’s the catch,

$50/person (same price applies to children).

That’s right, they supposedly have a gift that they want to share with you, but they are going to charge you an arm and a leg for it. Here’s a hint – if you can afford $50 a head to attend this conference, and you are willing to pay for it, then you will need this conference because you will soon be out of business. Better yet, set up your own website with it and put a conference yourself. I guarantee you to at least double that $50 bucks of yours.

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Seven Mountains – The Joshua Branding

via zArchive Church in the Workplace Conference Details and Registration 2008

Notice on the video that the speaker things that evangelism should be secondary to control of the government. (:40)

The Seven Mountains are:

  • Business
  • Media
  • Education
  • Entertainment
  • Government
  • Family
  • Religion

The idea of this conference – it’s over with, so don’t rush to sign up or anything – is to teach people to engage the culture, to conquer a mountain. Remember, the true mission of the Church is evangelism – not the affairs of this world. Never once in Scripture are we told to talk the culture that surrounds us in order to take over the government or to stop the moral slide of our society. As a matter of fact, we are told several times that the world will grow worse and worse.

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. (1 Timothy 4:1-3 NKJV)

But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived. (2 Timothy 3:13 NKJV)

We are never told to confront these things, but to continue in the Church and to instruct the Brethren (again, the Church) in the ways of God, while trying to rescue those by the Gospel of Christ.

The Conference’s mission is:

When God called the people of Israel out of Egypt to form a new nation in the Promised Land, He told them that they would be the head, not the tail, if they obeyed the commands of the Lord. He told them to divide the land into 7 parts (Joshua 18:5). They would also have to displace 7 enemies that currently resided in the Promised Land. “This is how you will know that the living God is among you and that he will certainly drive out 7 enemies before you including the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites, and the Jebusites (Joshua 3:10).

Have you noticed a pattern yet — 7 mountains, 7 parts of land, and 7 enemies that needed to be displaced? 7 is the perfect number in scripture. It is the number for completion. He made the world in six days and rested on the 7th.

Hence the Joshua Branding. What they fail to see, and many more among them, is that what was given to Physical Israel is now to the Church. The promises of obedience and reward is not to a single nation, but to the Church of God. All of this came into existence by the death of Christ on the Cross of Calvary and the establishment of the New Covenant. As they have no understanding of the true Righteousness, they have created their own, and it is alien to the Scriptures.

In Joshua 18.5, we do indeed fin a division of the Land into seven parts, however, as they are apt to do, the Dominionists wrest the scriptures. The Land which was being divided was the land that remained. This is not some mystery hidden in the Hebrew, sought by Midrash, but easily seen if one would read just a few verses ahead.

But there remained among the children of Israel seven tribes which had not yet received their inheritance. Then Joshua said to the children of Israel: “How long will you neglect to go and possess the land which the LORD God of your fathers has given you? Pick out from among you three men for each tribe, and I will send them; they shall rise and go through the land, survey it according to their inheritance, and come back to me. And they shall divide it into seven parts. Judah shall remain in their territory on the south, and the house of Joseph shall remain in their territory on the north. (Joshua 18:2-5 NKJV)

Notice the slight of hand. The Scriptures did not mention the ‘seven mountains’ – They did. Then there is not seven parts of the land, as that is a failed reading of Scripture. Yes, there were seven nations, but that mentioned in Deuteronomy 7.1 as well. In other words, they are making stuff up, twisting scriptures, and basing doctrine on it. It would be like someone basing the amoung of books in the Protestand Canon (66) on the chapters in Isaiah (Which the KJV-O crowd actually does) because Isaiah is the book with the Messianic prophecies and very close to the New Testament (?) all the while forgetting that it was an editer 1500 years removed from Christ who divided the books into chapters.

To be fair to them, the Bible does mention seven mountains,

“Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. (Revelation 17:9-11 NKJV)

Not to get too eschatological on you, but once they conquer these ‘seven moutains’ of thiers, then that meeans that they will be the singular eighteth. What do you think that makes them?

Seven Mountains – Dr. Lance Wallnau

What are the Seven Mountains?

The seven mountains are seven spheres of influence that make up the mind molders that control Nations. He who occupies these mountains controls the harvest. As Satan gains power over these mountains he increases his capacity for “Mind Control.” That’s the spiritual force that inclines whole people groups to think along the same pathway. It is the phenomenon that explains sudden trends in fashion or music. It works to turn whole continents against each other and will be used to facilitate global wars. Mind Control will increase as the Last Days speeds toward a conclusion.

Here are the Seven Mountains or Mind Molders:

  1. Spirituality and Church
  2. Family
  3. Education
  4. Government and Law
  5. Media and Communication
  6. Arts and Entertainment
  7. Business and Finance

World Rulers of Darkness operate through people. Their goal is to penetrate key strategic positions at the tops of the mountains, and to populate these positions with people who will become gatekeepers to their foul agendas. A small group in control of Media with a homosexual bias can put on programs that make the Gay lifestyle appealing and entertaining. This media pummeling has the effect of softening minds to the issues of morality and creates intolerance for moral absolutes regarding sexual purity and a false tolerance for perversion.

Mind Molders work together in order to accomplish the strategies of the devil. This year alone, the family (Family Mountain) has come under assault by government legislatures (Government Mountain) in the State of Massachusetts to recognize that the union of a man and a woman is a thing of the past. Men now marry men and woman marry woman. Simultaneous with this, education (another mountain) chartered a school in New York to honor those students with a homosexual preference.

Abortion and Pornography are coming through this same gate at a rate that is barely keeping up with the number of marriages falling apart and the number of men and youth who are becoming addicted to sex on the internet.

The same strategy to leverage the power of mind molders is now being worked out by the spirit of Anti Christ in Europe. “Anti” means against or “instead of” – and “Christ” means “anointing”. Therefore it is the name of a spirit that opposes Christians and seeks an alternative anointing. The World Ruler of Islam has so successfully joined with the spirit of Anti Christ in Europe that America is now the most hated country and George Bush in particular is now the number one most hated leader in Europe.

This, less than one generation after young Americans spilled blood to liberate our friends from the tyranny of Hitler’s war machine. How can this happen? Again, it’s called end time mind control. The manipulation and infection of the hearts and minds of people in mass through the mind molders. By the way, what is the number one thing Europeans most dislike about the President? His piety, they don’t like the fact that he is a praying Christian!

Remember, Anti Christ is anti anointing. Europeans aren’t against all prayer. They don’t mind Muslims praying three times a day toward Mecca. This explains why a land where churches once dominated the landscape is now laced with golden domed Mosques dotting the horizon. This and the sudden rise of the European economy as their currency surpasses the U.S. dollar make all those who are afraid of being “Left Behind” nervous. But God has a plan- “Go into the entire world, all its systems, its mind molders and its Nations and infiltrate the world with My power and teaching. Don’t run and don’t hide.

Go through the door of globalization- world economics- and while it is yet day, while opportunity exists, penetrate these nations and systems with a demonstration of a belief system that has superior power and results. This is what Daniel did in Babylon and what Joseph did in Egypt. This is a large part of the reason why God is blowing on the marketplace message in this hour. This is a day where third world nations are asking for help, and developing nations are seeking to trade. The window is wide open to the church to impact the world. Opportunity is everywhere.

The anointing and the spirit of wisdom will give you access to people and places that will be altered by the covert and overt application of these commands. That’s right- you can be covert! One friend of mine is transforming entire schools and businesses by applying certain key commandments to his client’s lives and systems. They are not even aware of the degree to which their organizations are being aligned with the teachings of Christ. All they know is that it’s working. In schools the students are getting better grades and discipline problems are on the decline. In business the people are starting to work like real teams and treating each other with respect. Companies are prospering. It works!

The 50 Commandments of Christ are the key to transforming your home, community and business. Memorize them. Meditate upon them. Ask the Holy Spirit for illumination on how to apply them to your life. Expect God to put His divine favor upon you. Favor takes you to the top of the mountains. Be full of the Holy Spirit and you will break the power of Mind Control off of every system you invade.

The above was from here.

This is one of those rare areas you do get to see the real intention of Joel’s Army and Dominionism the demonization of all things liberal, such as Europe. Try to remember the old days of the Left Behind garbage – the Europe was to given rise the Antichrist. Joel’s Army takes it a bit further by having Europe serve as a vassal to Russia which suddenly becomes the antichrist. (Ever wondered why everyone jumped on Georgia’s side over the summer?)Of course, it does not end there – Muslims, Buddhists, Homosexuals, and all sorts of sinners – perhaps even me – are not servants in the vast army of the antichrist. They are all involved in the conspiracy to undermine the United States, from the attacks on traditional values to out right attacks on us. This is the move of the antichrist against the Church. Scott Lively founded a tributary to Joel’s Army, Watchmen At The Walls, seeking a particularly nasty form of Holocaust revisionism in which some of the persons who were in fact victims of the Holocaust are portrayed as its instigators, only with the word “Jew” replaced with “Homosexual”.

Wallnau didn’t begin the idea of ‘Seven Mountains’ but ‘gained’ it from another source.  He does have his critics (one site critical of Joel’s Army notes a possible derivation from a Coalition on Revival document)–but the linkages are especially clear in regards to Joel’s Army circles.  Wallnau’s primary partner in promoting the “seven mountains” meme is none other than C. Peter Wagner – regarded, along with Rick Joyner and Rodney Howard-Browne, as one of the literal “founding fathers” of Joel’s Army:

Lance Wallnau, who is now working with  C. Peter Wagner on a global dominionism project using the motif of 7 mountains (or “spheres”), has proposed a strategy whereby-

“a very small minority of people. . . as small as 3-5% . . . can control how the agenda works in a nation and thus create or dominate the culture.

“He also makes a rather shocking statement….

“He says leaders of countries are not looking for Christian solutions to their cultural problems. But what they ARE looking for represents a massive time-sensitive opportunity for Christians to have a platform to impact and disciple entire countries of our world today.” [Os Hillman, "Weekly Resource Offer," June 18]

YWAM founder Loren Cunningham who along with Campus Crusade for Christ founder Bill Bright  plagiarized it from TV preacher Dr. Francis Schaeffer back in 1975:

It was August, 1975.  My family and I were up in a little cabin in Colorado.  And the Lord had given me that day a list of things I had never thought about before.  He said “This is the way to reach America and nations for God.  And {He said}, “You have to see them like classrooms or like places that were already there, and go into them with those who are already working in those areas.”  And I call them “mind-molders” or “spheres”.  I got the word “spheres” from II Corinthians 10 where Paul speaks in the New American Standard about the “spheres” he had been called into.  And with these spheres there were seven of them, and I’ll get to those in a moment.  But it was a little later that day, the ranger came up, and he said, “There is a phone call for you back at the ranger’s station.”    So I went back down, about 7 miles, and took the call.  It was a mutual friend who said, “Bill Bright and Vonnette are in Colorado at the same time as you are.  Would you and Darlene come over and meet with them? They would love to meet with you.”  So we flew over to Boulder on a private plane of a friend of ours.  And as we came in and greeted each other, {we were friends for quite a while}, and I was reaching for my yellow paper that I had written on the day before.  And he said, “Loren, I want to show you what God has shown me!” And it was virtually the same list that God had given me the day before.  Three weeks later, my wife Darlene had seen Dr. Francis Shaffer on TV and he had the same list!  And so I realized that this was for the body of Christ.

I gave it for the first time in Hamburg, Germany at the big cathedral there to a group of hundreds of young people that had gathered at that time. And I said, “These are the areas that you can go into as missionaries.  Here they are:  First, it’s the institution set up by God first, the family.  After the family was church, or the people of God.  The third was the area of school, or education.  The fourth was media, public communication, in all forms, printed and electronic.  The fifth was what I call “celebration”, the arts, entertainment, and sports, where you celebrate within a culture.  The sixth would be the whole area of the economy, which starts with innovations in science and technology, productivity, sales, and service.  The whole area we often call it business but we leave out sometimes the scientific part, which actually raises the wealth of the world.  Anything new, like making sand into chips for a microchip, that increases wealth in the world.  And then of course prediction sales and service helps to spread the wealth.  And so the last was the area of government.  Now government, the Bible shows in Isaiah 33 verse 22 that there are three branches of government, so it’s all of the three branches:  judicial, legislative, and executive.  And then there are subgroups under all of those seven groups.  And there are literally thousands upon thousands of sub-groups.  But those seven can be considered like Caleb:  “Give me this mountain,” and they can be a “mountain” to achieve for God.

There’s some evidence Bright also plagiarized from a secondary source–a neo-Calvinist Abraham Kuyper and of course Rousas John Rushdoony – indicating some of the more interesting influences in the Joel’s Army movement outside of pentecostalism.