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April 13th, 2011

Final Night of the Revival

The end has come – the revival is over. Done.

But, just like Sunday morning, just like every time we hear the word from God… if we let it remain neatly within four walls, then it was worthless. I like that word…

Was it worth our hour and a half away from home? The preparation before hand? Surely it was, and if it was, surely we can do something to, at the very least, test the word of the preacher.

Vance P. Ross has provided some great soul searching insight and thought provoking words. His sermon tonight was based on the final two verses of the Gospel According to Matthew, or as many call it, the Great Commission. It made me wonder if Christians haven’t just lost focus on the destination but instead find themselves fearful of the other place. The relationship with God is no longer about love, but fear. And, can’t we see how that is playing out in our society today? Or, if do we see the destination as something which we do not contribute too? No evangelism needed, or rather, wanted – the New Creation is what we want it to be – us four and no more. (I say this because it rhymes, but I suspect that a few us do not want that many in the New Creation. Sure, you might not say it, but that is what is shouted by your actions).

The songs were wonderful, as always. We have a wonderful choir director. And this time… it was the Youth night, where the youth choir sang a special song. Youth… I am no longer in the Youth category. I am old.

33

And nearly 33 and a half.

Old, I say.

But they did wonderful.

There was also – brace yourselves – an altar call.

Whew..

But the focus is not on the pressure of ‘getting saved’ or ‘come to the altar.’ As one who actively and forcefully participated in that pressurized mosh pit of ‘the Holy Ghost’, I greatly appreciated letting the sermon speak to the needs of the congregation and to do what sermons do – wash the congregation by the Word from God. I know, another comparison. Sue me. But, trust me on this – those of you are who creating ‘Holy Ghost mosh pits’ (TM) (R) (C) because you think that by shouting and beating people into submitting to having their body possessed by the Spirit of the Living God…. you are doing God’s work, just the same as the first Methodists, Peter, James and John, well….

STOP

Because you aren’t. Nothing in the biblical texts given to us allow for such actions.

Seriously. I am not saying don’t be enthusiastic, but honestly if God needed you to abuse someone to ‘save’ their souls, then he wouldn’t have needed the Cross.

It was a good service. Loud amens, even.

I am looking forward to Sunday.

April 12th, 2011

Third Night of the Revival

What a really powerful sermon tonight. Fortunate for me, it wasn’t about me or for me but I knew some of those that it was for. I could point them out, but I don’t want to be rude. But, I sure hope that they heard what he had to say.

It was a larger crowd, I think, than last night as well, so you know, more needed to hear what he had to say too…

We sat on the back row. That is my favorite place. It suits me.

Anyway, he preached using Micah 6 as his foundation. He preached about not putting categories on our neighbors. It is easier not to love those that we can box away from from us.

Then he preached on not getting hung up on the differences, but focusing on what unites us.

I wonder if we can actually learn from that?

I was thinking towards the end of the service that in these revivals, while there are songs, and prayer requests and the usual trappings of a service, the focus is on the Sermon – the Word from God on the Word of God – rather than anything else. I think as well about the verse or so about being washed by the word.

Anyway, it was a pretty good sermon. I hope that those who needed to hear it heard it. Everyone else, around me, especially everyone else but me.

April 11th, 2011

Second Night of the Revival

Where y’all at?

It was a good service. Different. We are still getting use to the difference between our previous sect, cult, mental and spiritual enslaving lifestyle and the Methodist church. Maybe after a year, I won’t post things like this, so until then, you’ll have to deal with it!

Okay, so previous experience with revivals weren’t really revivals. I knew that. It was more about trying to save the community – the same community, in our case, which already knew about our congregation and didn’t want anything, at all, to do with it or the people in it because of the people in it. Seriously, why didn’t we pick up on the signals???? It was all about loud music, loud preaching, and loud pronouncements of ‘Jesus may come back before you get home!’ Lots of crying and weeping and snot, and shouts and the such.

But…. what actually happened? Bad theology, bad doctrine, but good performances.

Here, if I may offer a critique, it is for the congregation. A real revival – such as in reviving the congregation. The preacher is pretty awesome, and I don’t even mind his style. I like it. I am not sure if I could handle it Sunday after Sunday. I do like our pastor’s style of sermons. Prefer, actually. It allows me to think.

I like thinking. I think that what I really like is the freedom to think!

Anyway, this revival is geared to the congregation – it is for the congregation! Yes, we have visitors, I think – I still don’t know a lot of people who attend, but that is my choice. I’ve said it before – my only intention was to blend in and not be known. I still maintain that that is the preferred course of action for me. Wounds heal, but scars remain. And like scars, they can become wounds easily. And get infected. And filled with pus. And then get gangrene. Then their is that stench, oh the stench! And then you’ll have to cut off the limb or something. But, I digress.

Anyway, I am enjoying the revival because it unsettles me. Plus, the topics are great. He is preaching about changing the world. Very Wesleyan. But, what’d you expect?

Anyway, everything is going great so far. Trying not to contrast and compare, and keeping critiques to myself and just trying to focus on what is said.

Sometimes I drift… but I find my way back.

Tonight’s sermon was on commitment, and he drew from Matthew 16.21. I have to wonder if I have the commitment needed to be a follower of Christ any longer… do you?

If you are in town…. stop by….

April 10th, 2011

First Night of the Revival

The service this morning, while technically not a revival, was pretty awesome. We attended the early service, which is contemporary, or so – but don’t think emergent or charismatic. I mean, the service is just shorter. They sang a song at the end of the service that brought about lots of hand clapping. For those who where there – I was the one who clapped between everyone else. Not on purpose. I just have no rhythm . Seriously, it is bad.

This evening, however, we had a great service. Rev. Vance P. Ross was the speaker. Powerful, simply powerful.

He said something, which I know that I will not get right, but it sorta goes like this:

What would change the world is the church that would live in the Jesus of John 3:16

Or something like that. The entire sermon is too long to quote here or to analyze. I mean, you don’t do that. You listen. You absorb. You do.

Imagine loving the world around us in the way which John described God’s love of the world. Let’s say you don’t believe in God. Let’s say that you see the bible as folktales or the such. Fine, but what if Christians loved the world in which we believe God loved the world – in that He gave his only son. What if everyone, believer or unbeliever, loved their community in such a way as to give that most sacred part of ourselves to the betterment of the whole?

Is it time? Money? Our goods?

What kind of witness to the world would that be?

The sermon was a powerful call to arms, to action, to prayer, to love.

Cannot wait to hear the sermons for the rest of the revival. If you are in the Charleston area, stop by. It is at 7pm, until Wednesday.

March 1st, 2010

In Search of the Next Revival?

The question?

Does anyone besides me think that American Christianity is in real trouble?

An offered answer?

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January 6th, 2010

Signs of a False Revival?

Thought some you might be interested in this:

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November 13th, 2009

Revival!

Sometime after Solomon’s death, the kingdom split. The king of the north, who was rightfully sitting on the throne, decided that a revival was needed:

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July 6th, 2009

Is there a Great World Wide Revival Coming?

This post is in response to a friendly discussion with Peter Lopez from Beauty of the Bible, another excellent biblical blog. We are hoping to simply engage the subject and remain friendly while doing so. I believe that it will be easy, as this is not a truly doctrinal worry, and frankly, for my children’s sake, I hope that he is right.

Let us lay the foundation for the negative:

You should know this, Timothy, that in the last days there will be very difficult times. (2Ti 3:1 NLT)

Cyprian, commenting on this passage in his first Treatise, states,

Whatever things were predicted are fulfilled; and as the end of the world is approaching, they have come for the probation as well of the men as of the times.

Cyprian was echoing the Tradition which he learned from Tertullian, who in the first part of his work, On Modesty, writes,

But as the conquering power of things evil is on the increase—which is the characteristic of the last times —things good are now not allowed either to be born, so corrupted are the seminal principles;

The early Church writers are here shown only to show that the early Tradition is that the world will only get worse.

Again, from the Scriptures,

Now the Holy Spirit tells us clearly that in the last times some will turn away from the true faith; they will follow deceptive spirits and teachings that come from demons (1Ti 4:1 NLT)

Athanasius, writing in his Disposition of Arius connects 1st Timothy 4.1 with Luke 21.8

He replied, “Don’t let anyone mislead you, for many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and saying, ‘The time has come!’ But don’t believe them. (Luk 21:8 NLT)

Don’t be fooled by what they say. For that day will not come until there is a great rebellion against God and the man of lawlessness is revealed– the one who brings destruction. (2Th 2:3 NLT)

In verse 9, we are told that this person will come with great signs and wonders.

Scripture tells us that in the last days, humanity will grow worse, turning upon themselves, and allowing people to rise to lead people in rebellion against God, claiming the name of Christ. In answering the negative, I believe that Scripture is clear that this world will spin into an open rebellion against God.

Some will refer to the prophecy in Joel 2:

“And it shall come to pass afterward That I will pour out My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your old men shall dream dreams, Your young men shall see visions.” (Joel 2:28 NKJV)

Yet, Peter, standing on the day of Pentecost applies this portion of prophecy not to the End Time Revival, but to the days which he lived:

“But this is what was spoken by the prophet Joel: `And it shall come to pass in the last days, says God, That I will pour out of My Spirit on all flesh; Your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, Your young men shall see visions, Your old men shall dream dreams. (Act 2:16-17 NKJ)

Again, from Peter,

That you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Lord and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, “Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation.” (2Pe 3:2-4 NKJ)

While Peter does not apply anything from the  OT to the NT here, he does concur with the Pauline speech that in the last days, people will rise up against Christ instead of participate in a great world wide revival.

Granted, there is evidence that during the End, a remnant of the Jews may turn to Christ (not the regathering of Israel, but the remnant according to Grace) and that I will allow.

May 24th, 2009

Brownsville Revival Leaders Reunite – Because One Heresy isn’t Enough

What is it about Florida and revivals by heretics?

Nearly a decade after millions flocked to Pensacola, Fla., to experience one of the longest lasting Pentecostal revivals in history, leaders of what became known as the Pensacola Outpouring and alumni of the Brownsville Revival School of Ministry (BRSM) are gathering to “remember, refresh and refire.”

This weekend the BRSM Reunion Conference will unite leaders such as Steve Hill, the evangelist who was instrumental in starting the revival; Michael Brown, former dean of BRSM; John Kilpatrick, former pastor of Brownville Assembly of God, where the Pensacola revival began on Father’s Day in 1995; and former Brownsville worship leader Lindell Cooley, who now serves as pastor of Grace Church in Nashville, Tenn.

And for those that do not remember it -

The meetings were criticized by some Christians and by the local news media. The Pensacola News Journal ran a series of investigative articles which focused on the donations raised during the meetings and where those funds went, as well as the claims of miraculous healings at the services and the spontaneity of the revival’s beginnings.[8]

For example, the News Journal revealed that a videotape of the Father’s Day service that sparked the revival showed the service went rather badly for Hill.[1]

The News Journal had initially written glowing reports about the revival from the time it began, but began a four-month investigation after former members told reporters that all was not as it appeared at the church. The series won George Polk awards from such groups as National Headliner, Scripps-Howard Foundation, and Society of Professional Journalists.[9] Brownsville Assembly of God answered the paper’s allegations by publishing a two-page spread in the News Journal entitled, “The Facts of The Brownsville Revival.”

Got to love wiki

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May 14th, 2009

Tent Revival – 1st Night

Tonight is the first night of our Revival – and the start of our yearly set of organizational events. Let God be glorified and the gospel of Jesus Christ be preached.

It rained today, and thus under the tent, it was a bit humid. Not too bad once you ignore it and put your mind on God. The songs were good and the crowd growing. We have more people coming tomorrow night, and still yet on Saturday.

A few years ago, the Bishop Board decided to have tent revivals, in stead of the traditional convocations. I personally supported this idea, as there are times that the four walls of the Church house prohibit the spreading of the Gospel. So now, we have a revival here, Pierceton, Indiana and Dyersburg, Tennessee.

The sermon was the best part – as it should be. Our presiding Bishop preached tonight on the denial of the will of the self in favor of the will of God. Bishop Spence spoke well to the parents who readily support thier children in everything but service to God.He is right, of course, that parents support and boast of thier children, but when it comes to the things of God, they claim youth. ‘He/She is too young.’

Amen to that, Bishop Spence, amen to that.

May 6th, 2009

Tent Revival – Sharon, WV May 14th-16th

Our annual revival is upon us once more. It will be the 14th through the 16th of May in Sharon, WV, right off exit 79 of I-64/77. Starting at 7pm Thursday and Friday, and 6pm on Saturday, come expecting good music, good preaching and good fellowship.

Do not come expecting a circus or miraculous gold dust and angel feathers!