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And this, my friends is how “Christians” from @theird handle challenges

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The IRD has set its sights on Rachel Held Evans with several recent articles, namely this one. Oddly enough, a writer for the IRD is also a writer for the Gospel Coalition. Anyway, they aren’t taking too kindly to Evans’ take down of modern day Evangelicalism. Now that she has shown how a woman can do more than stay in the kitchen quietly, they are ramping up their minions to attack.

For example,

I posted a review of Honey BooBoo’s book on Amazon, and that provoked the Attack of the Killer Shrews. Wow, talk about LOYAL fans! If only people were that committed to Jesus of Nazareth! The comments all followed a pattern: “How dare you! Rachel loves Jesus! I love Jesus! Rachel is a woman of valor! You didn’t read the book! Rachel has opened up the Bible for millions of women!”

Never confuse “fame” with “greatness.”

In one post, her critics have all but accused her of promoting the destruction of a man’s property – his future’s wife virginity. I almost wrote vagina, but this is a family blog. The commenters on this post in particular show a complete ineptness of what Scripture says about sexuality. Of course, that won’t stop them, as they seem insist that a woman is less of a good thing if she has sex before marriage.

All of this is nothing more than a bunch of backward “evangelicals” missing the point, judging not on facts but only what they think they know, and generally doing a bang-up job of being the prime example of what it is not to be either a Christian or a real Evangelical.

The author of the most recent article on Evans concludes her statements with this,

Although Evans did not define “biblical womanhood” in any real sense, she showcased clearly her approach to scripture, which deviates dramatically from that of evangelical tradition….

Thank God it deviates… Of course, Evans has a habit of taking Scripture honestly and showing how the so-called “face value” or “plain sense” hermeneutic is quite funny in practice.

And…

It seems unlikely that most evangelicals, who have historically emphasized the authority of scripture, will follow her call to evolve into communities of questioning and doubt.

Authority is one thing – Evans engages the authority of Scripture like we all should. However, what the author really means is that Evans takes Scripture for what it is and where it came from and where it is today. She doesn’t rely upon the final interpretation motif common among Evangelicals today, but instead shows that if you stick Scripture on a pedestal, you are doing it wrong.

It is sad that Evangelicals will not take Evans’ advice and follow her at least partially out of the hindering mindset that is modern (American) Evangelicalism.

Christianity would be better served with more Evans and less Tool-ey clones.

HT to Rod for the pic.

I get it… @pastormark lives in a world where Scripture is soft porn, but do we have to respond to him?

First, Mark Driscoll complains about teaching about Esther… a woman whom he calls a whore, but delights in the fact that she allows the men to make the decisions in her life. Notice that this goes together, even in psychology. Anyway… Driscoll is reading Esther as badly as he does Song of Solomon and teaching others how to do it.

I’m beginning to think his teaching expertise is about as real as Davy-Tee’s “doctorate,” but I digress.

Driscoll removes Esther from her “time” and puts her into his frame of mind – that of an agnostic woman with loose morals who has one saving grace – submitting to every man who comes along and knowing how to please her husband.

This is sick, no doubt, and wrong.

Rachel Held Evans has since responded. Good, I guess, but I am beginning to tire of responding to Marky Mark’s funky bunch, at least directly. In speaking with “Lightning” Rod today, I suggested a method of response he has used in the past – to speak past the opponent in such a way as to answer their garbage. Such as… instead of linking to Mark or mentioning his name, posting positively.

A little mimeticly, if you will.

I am not denying Scripture’s use of human experiences, including sex and sexual situations hot enough to make a stripper blush, but the reason I suggest Driscoll sees it as soft porn because he sees it as a sexual release filled with sex for sex’s sake, and only for the male. No story line, just S & M sex. Driscoll sees only fantasy…

Nick calling someone a bully is really ironic

So to Doug Wilson I say: Bully for you! Way to stand your ground. You’ve been in the right all along and you’ve handled things like a scholar and a gentleman. And good for your girls. They were the picture of class. Those who think otherwise need to learn how to read way more gooder.

via Bully for You! | Rightly Dividing the Word of Truth.

Nick Norelli, for some reason, loves the neo-Confederate, pro-slavery, anti-women Doug Wilson – going so far as to be a total @$$ to Rachel Held Evans.

A bully? She’s a bully? Oh come on… Did Nick even read the garbage that the Wilsons wrote?

So I guess Rachel and others should have just known their place, kept quite, and did nothing?

Or, when J. Wilson did apologize, Grace was brought forth, and that is condemned as well?

And what is “ladylike?” Yael? Would Nick condemn Yael as well?

Disgusting…

Let’s just call it what it is – rape

Rape, for the most part, is defined as the forced act of sex. There is also the idea of consent and proper consent. So, no date rapes or drunken orgies.

The Gospel Coalition is promoting Doug Wilson’s take on take,

When we quarrel with the way the world is, we find that the world has ways of getting back at us. In other words, however we try, the sexual act cannot be made into an egalitarian pleasuring party. A man penetrates, conquers, colonizes, plants. A woman receives, surrenders, accepts.This is of course offensive to all egalitarians, and so our culture has rebelled against the concept of authority and submission in marriage. This means that we have sought to suppress the concepts of authority and submission as they relate to the marriage bed….True authority and true submission are therefore an erotic necessity…

I wrote this post quickly last nightRachel Held Evans has responded to them as well. Scot McKnight has responded and so has Rodney. J.K. Gayle as responded as well.

How is that different than 50 Shades of Grey? Wilson, and the Gospel Coalition, is advocating that for a man to enjoy sex, he must be forcefully conquering the woman. For a woman to enjoy sex, she must be dominated. This is nothing more than a nice and clean version of rape. I do not mean to say that this is the violent rape or equal to it, but it is a psychological rape that forces the woman to have sex against her will. If rape is defined at the basic level as sex against one’s will, then what Wilson, the Gospel Coalition and others are supporting is flat out rape.

Read Rachel’s post.

Images of Masculine Christianity vs ‘Feminine?’ Christianity? @johnpiper @rachelheldevans

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I could post quotes from Pat Robertson all day, but this is the last one…

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All of that and more vs this:

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And, perhaps the best image of ‘feminine’ Christianity is from the Women of Liberia Mass Action which ended a bloody civil war…

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Leymah Gbowee and Comfort Freeman, presidents of two different Lutheran churches, organized the Women in Peacebuilding Network (WIPNET), and issued a statement of intent: “In the past we were silent, but after being killed, raped, dehumanized, and infected with diseases, and watching our children and families destroyed, war has taught us that the future lies in saying NO to violence and YES to peace! We will not relent until peace prevails.” [4]

Asatu Bah Kenneth, Assistant Minister for Administration and Public Safety of the Liberian Ministry of Justice,[5] was president of the Liberia Female Law Enforcement Association at the time. Inspired by the work of the Christian women’s peace initiative, she formed the Liberian Muslim Women’s Organization to work for peace.[6]

Together, Gbowee and Kenneth brought both groups together to form the Mass Action, a rare thing to happen in Liberia. Since they were brought together, relations have been less tense and more open between Christians and Muslims in Liberia, specifically Monrovia.

The Christian and Muslim women joined forces to create Women of Liberia Mass Action for Peace. They wore white, to symbolize peace.

For her leadership, Leymah Gbowee has received international recognition, including the 2009 John F. Kennedy Profile in Courage Award[7] and the 2011 Nobel Peace Prize.