73% Of Evangelical Leaders Support Stricter Gun Laws

I have to admit that as an Englishman I find the issue of firearm ownership in the U.S. baffling. All this talk of Amendments and having gun ownership enshrined in ‘rights’ is mysterious to me. But I think the strangest phenomenon is pro-lifer’s arguing for gun ownership.

I made the fatal mistake towards the end of last year of agreeing with this Tweet by Piers Morgan:

Morgan said this after the Sandy school massacre and I blogged:

Putting my cards on the table; mentally ill folk should not be allowed to own guns. I’m mentally ill, and am no danger to anybody, with or without a gun, but I still should not be legally allowed to own one, for the simple fact that I am mentally ill.

Does that mean I believe that all mentally ill folk are potentially mass killers, no it doesn’t. My main concern with the mentally unstable having easy access to guns, is to do with the ease of dispatching oneself into eternity.

That’s my opinion.

The recriminations for these comments rumbled on from Boxing day, right through to New Year’s Eve. I was called a bigot and accused of having a fondness of stigmatizing the mentally ill. Folk told me they hoped my God could forgive me for such comments.

On reflection, I wish that I’d made it clear I was referring to folk that are mentally ill (present tense) as one of the criticisms leveled against me was that people do recover. Also, I admit I was gripped with anger at folk blaming the massacre either on godlessness, or some other crackpot theory.

But then again, we can only comment on issues from our own frame of reference, and I know, that as someone with a lifelong chronic mental illness, and given my symptoms, I should never be allowed anywhere near firearms. Personally, I only know one instance of a mentally ill person owning a gun, and she put a bullet through her hand in a fit of depression.

I could have said this in my defense, but decided not to, for the simple reason that in reality, I don’t think folk should bear arms.

I know one person here in the UK who legally owns firearms and he has what can only be described as an armory, and you know what, the worst thing is, he is a Christian with a very scary eschatology and owns his guns for the ‘end times’.

I want to say though, that I accept the U.S. has different ‘gun culture’ to us in the UK, where even most of our police are not armed.

Having said all of this, I must admit I’m with Christian in being somewhat surprised that 73% of Evangelical leaders support stricter gun laws, I especially appreciated his concluding comment:

Finally… evangelicals who believe being pro-life extends beyond the abortion debate.

Indeed.

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Well, maybe Piers Morgan is not a moron after all

I was pondering the logic of a Morgan-Jones interview. A friend suggested that it was due to the “liberal notion of objectivity.” I protested, suggesting instead Morgan did it to incite something.. guess what… others are picking up on that as well. What Morgan did was to showcase the very reason why many are now ago with gun control… because of conspiracy nuts and head cases like Jones… and did I mention Jones is openly advocating treason…?

The video is well worth your seven minutes, but if you don’t have time, Real Clear Politics transcribed the best parts. When Jones really took off, around two minutes in, he started jabbing his finger at Morgan and yelling: “I’m here to tell you, 1776 will commence again, if you try to take our firearms! It doesn’t matter how many lemmings you get out there in the street begging for them to have their guns taken. We will not relinquish them. Do you understand?”

via A Rant From the Man Who’d Deport Piers Morgan — Daily Intelligencer.

Even Glen Beck says Alex Jones is crazy:

Want to know who the media wants to make the face of the pro-gun argument in America? Look no further than conspiratorial radio host Alex Jones, best known for his 9/11 Truther theories and his love of Charlie Sheen’s hernia. Jones is the man behind the petition to deport CNN host Piers Morgan for his views on gun control. Morgan invited Jones onto his show to debate the gun issue yesterday, and not surprisingly, Jones made a fool of himself, giving the left the perfect poster boy for their attempts to paint every logical conservative as an extremist nut job.

I guess the only people defending Jones is World Net Daily…

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Piers Morgan is a moron

“My point to you about gay rights for example – it’s time for an amendment to the Bible,” Morgan told Warren. “You should compile a new Bible.”

via CNN’s Piers Morgan Says Bible is ‘Flawed’ | FOX News & Commentary: Todd Starnes.

I’m not sure he understands “the bible” or the “Constitution” too well, but comparing the two should have him liked by the wing nuts.