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April 8th, 2013

Does Secular Science Lead to Better (Normative) Morals?

These studies demonstrated the morally normative effects of lay notions of science. Thinking about science leads individuals to endorse more stringent moral norms and exhibit more morally normative behavior. These studies are the first of their kind to systematically and empirically test the relationship between science and morality. The present findings speak to this question and elucidate the value-laden outcomes of the notion of science.

via PLOS ONE: Does “Science” Make You Moral? The Effects of Priming Science on Moral Judgments and Behavior.

You’ll have to read the entire study, I guess. I mean, what is normative morality? And, how does this fit into “spiritual, but not religious” science? And how does this fit into Jim’s latest post...

Inquiring minds…

What is morality? Is morality the same thing as good morals? Are morals eternal or do they change with paradigm shifts?

Like all of life on earth, and even the universe if we are to believe on particular scientist, morals do evolve…

January 12th, 2012

Excuse Me, But Your Moral Absolutes are Showing

In a 2005 episode of the BBC’s Doctor Who, The Doctor is on a space station that broadcasts nothing but game shows in which the penalty for losing is death. In this world, the “weakest link” gets incinerated in front of millions of people.

In a key scene, The Doctor turns to the manager of the station and says “Your staff executes hundreds of contestants every day.”

“That’s not fair,” the manager replies. “We’re just doing our job.”

“With that response,” growls The Doctor, “you just lost the right to even talk to me.”

The fascinating thing about this scene is that it takes place in a universe in which God does not exist. (At least there’s been no indication that anyone believes in an omnipotent, benevolent creator) Yet in this simple exchange, The Doctor reveals that not only does he believe that there are moral absolutes, but that everyone should intuitively know them and be held responsible for violating them.

In just a few lines of dialogue, the writers of this episode evoke one of the 20th century’s most powerful images—a Nazi standing in a courtroom in Nuremberg in 1945 claiming that he killed hundreds of men, women, and children in the German death camps because he was just following orders. The response of most people, both then and now, is that anyone committing such atrocities should have known better. There is no excuse for ignoring one’s moral intuition.

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that the book that topped Christianity Today’s 2012 Book Awards in the Apologetics/Evangelism category was David Baggett and Jerry Walls’ Good God: The Theistic Foundations of Morality. Yes, this book happened to be my favorite book of the year (I blogged about it for several weeks then reviewed it on Amazon), but I am also encouraged that more and more people are recognizing the significance of moral apologetics. There is, I think, no stronger evidence for the existence of a morally good God than that most people instinctively know that there are a few things that are always, always wrong. (as well as a few things that are always right)

One of my favorite things to write about is how sci-fi, fantasy, and murder mysteries often reveal this universal moral intuition even (and perhaps, especially) when the official position of the characters is that God does not exist. While these characters exist in a presumably godless universe, they are invariably guided by a moral code that is never questioned. Love and mercy are always good. Hate and cruelty are always wrong. And fighting the good fight is always worth it.

Dr. Who, Buffy Summers, Merlin, Captain Kirk, Sherlock Holmes, and countless other godless heathens will always step up to save us. Not because someone tells them to, but because they know it’s the right things to do. Because they can’t hide their moral absolutes.

Who is your favorite godless heathen with an instinctive moral compass?

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August 8th, 2011

Halteman on Adam Smith’s Moral Foundation

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Yesterday, Rodney and I were discussing the use of non-Christians, and sometimes a-theists, economic systems (notably, Adam Smith, Ayn Rand, and Karl Marx). Adam Smith rejected Christianity, and the moral code as it were as produced by Christianity. Does this matter? Can it be compatible with Christian ethics and morals? James Halteman (warning, pdf) has an article up which admits these things, but concludes, somewhat (and I am paraphrasing it almost out of existence) that capitalism is the best we can offer. He concludes,

“(S)eeing market capitalism as God’s plan for economic life has been a common course of action (for Christians). On the other hand, withdrawing from the ambiguities of the world and retreating into enclaves of spiritual purity is hardly consistent with the life of Jesus…Somewhere on a continuum between these to extremes there is room for debate on how Christians should respond… the task of Christians need not be to save the secular system from collapse by infusing Christian principles into the system…What Christians can do is provide an alternative model showing how life can be more meaningful than the best the world can offer. By doing so they effect change on the margin without selling out to the spirit of the world.” (ht)

As we see our economic system crumbling around us, thanks in part of an apathetic American citizenry which has yet to fully educate itself on what is actually going in Washington, believing for some reason that the only two things needed to know about a politician was his stance on abortion and gay marriage, I think it’s time we asked the question of from whom did we get our current economic system? Further, is it compatible with Christianity?

I do think that deism allows for a more libertarian view, but that is more psychological analysis than empiricism from me.

This is an article about Adam Smith and the Christian Hope. There are, of course, a lot of defenders and detractors for Capitalism and Christianity.

(note, for new readers, Rodney and I are pretty far apart on a view things, politically speaking, but I have found him a valuable friend in discussing these sorts of issues. You can read his recent review on a book about the ‘divine economy’.)

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May 31st, 2011

Speaking of Sodom… Americans and Morality

Um… wow… from here.

Odd that suicide is deemed morally unacceptable – unless you have a doctor do it.

They forgot a category -  Reading Jim West’s blog. :)

May 7th, 2011

Matt J. Rossano: Can You Be Good Without God? Augustine: No

Erasmus in 1523, by Hans Holbein

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Matt J. Rossano asks, Can You Be Good Without God?.

The interesting issue — the one upon which productive discussions can be built rather than useless shouting matches — is not whether you can be good without God, but what role religious beliefs and practices play in morality. From the get go, however, we have to be clear on what we mean by “morality.” For most of human history, morality simply meant “adherence to group norms.” The idea of some universal moral code that applies equally to people of all tribes, races, ethnic groups, etc. is a very recent idea and one that exists far more as a noble aspiration than a regularly implemented practice.

I think Augustine would have said no, don’t you?

Of course, this raises the question of the good which is done without the name of God attached. Of course to that I attach this quote -

It’s the second contention that fascinates me; that one million kiwis are morally good without God. In the liturgy we say of God, “you are the source of all life and goodness”. As Erasmus would have it, and Jung so famously reinforced: “Vocatus Atque Non Vocatus Deus Aderit – Bidden or not bidden, God is present.”

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February 9th, 2011

Must Read of the Day: Jason Staples’ (un)Civil War

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I had the pleasure to meet Jason in New Orleans a few years ago and have interacted with him a time or two over twitter. I was deeply impressed and count myself as an admirer. No less so, because he is able to do what few are able to do – namely, get me to consider the other side, and last but not least, able to see other sides. No small feat, I assure you. In a multi-part series, beginning here, Jason takes on the issue of the supposed and always overlap of moral and legal domains  in this country:

This conflation of political and religious spheres has become an increasingly visible problem in the political arena over the past thirty years (tracing at least to the beginning of Jerry Falwell’s “Moral Majority” and the rise of “dominion theology,” which I’ll address later), a conflation that rests on a misunderstanding both of the foundations of US government and early Christian theology. (It has also caused much hand wringing from the secular Left, which worries that fundamentalist Christians are seeking to impose a Taliban-style theocratic system in the USA, a concern that both grossly overestimates and misunderstands its opposition. But that’s a subject for another time.) In this post, I’ll address the first misunderstanding (that of the foundations of US government), before turning to Christian theological issues in Part Two and finally the specific question of a “civil war between the church and the gay community” in Part Three.

I would encourage you to read his essay, all of it, and take it into account.

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July 31st, 2010

Chesterton, The Beginning of Morality

Morality did not begin by one man saying to another, “I will not hit you if you do not hit me”‘; there is no trace of such a transaction. There is a trace of both men having said, “We must not hit each other in the holy place.” They gained their morality by guarding their religion. They did not cultivate courage. They fought for the shrine, and found they had become courageous. They did not cultivate cleanliness. They purified themselves for the altar, and found they were clean. (ht)

You can other great quotes, here.

November 5th, 2009

Is Religion the Ultimate Milgram Experiment?

In 1961, during the trial of a notorious Nazi, a scientist set up a test to determine the morality of people in light of the many who participated in the Holocaust. His question was simple: “Was it that Eichmann and his accomplices in the Holocaust had mutual intent, in at least with regard to the goals of the Holocaust?” Rather “Was there a mutual sense of morality among those involved?” For me, simply, the Milgram Experiment and it’s results indicate that individuals will surrender their morality if they feel that another will take the responsibility of their actions.

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October 14th, 2009

Are there Morals without God?

In light of Ardi’s Discovery, and the fact that Ardi will be on the Discovery Channel for a while, I thought that this discussion was important. Too often, we assume the worse about another if their view on creationism is not just right.

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September 23rd, 2009

Charleston WV Pastor Arrested for Failing to Report Child Molestation

A pastor who allegedly knew about the abuse was also indicted this week on a misdemeanor charge of failing to report the crimes.

Craig Johnson of Oak Grove Baptist Church pleaded not guilty. He’s free on $1,000 bond.

You can read the whole story here.

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September 3rd, 2009

Question to My Readers – Child Molestation and Seat Belt Laws

Does failing to buckle a child equate to hiding child molestation?

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