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July 7th, 2010

Beck, Hagee, 7 Mountains and Dominionism

Again, PJ, with thanks for ruining my day:

Instead, I want to use this to further explore something I mentioned last week in my “The Religious Right and Six Degrees of Dominionism” post: though not every person who shares a stage with a controversial figure can be said to share that figure’s views, those who either invite such figures to participate in their events or else themselves agree to appear at events hosted by such figures are offering, on some level, their validation of such views.

In the case of last night’s Beck program, it would be unfair to say that Robert George shares the radical views of John Hagee just because they shared the stage; but it is fair to say that Beck does, at least in part, or else he would never have invited Hagee on to participate in this panel.  By the same token, by appearing on Beck’s program, George is signaling that he is entirely comfortable using that venue as an outlet through which he is eager to share his own views with an audience who shares Beck’s views.

Ugh… but you can read the rest here.

Something on the seven mountains…

And just for you prophetic people,

“This calls for a mind with understanding: The seven heads of the beast represent the seven hills where the woman rules. They also represent seven kings. Five kings have already fallen, the sixth now reigns, and the seventh is yet to come, but his reign will be brief. The scarlet beast that was, but is no longer, is the eighth king. He is like the other seven, and he, too, is headed for destruction. (Rev 17:9-11 NLT)

I note that Wallnau states,

‘You are called to preach the Gospel of the Kingdom, and the Kingdom rules over all of these mountains.’

Stay with me for a minute -

  • Wallnau identified seven mountains and one to rule over them.
  • John writes of seven mountains/hills with one to rule over them.

Anyone? Anyone at all see anything wrong with this whatsoever?

This is the stuff that Beck and Hagee is tied too.

I guess his ‘eighth’ nation is the kingdom of the nation. So…one nation to rule over the church, etc… so…one government over all points of culture… so…one world government? Hey, just saying… And really…the business mountain rules the Church? And isn’t he quoting from a disputing portion of Mark’s gospel? And really? Demons in the Systems?

Actually, vater is the German word for father, while fuhrer is more like leader, but he has gotten so much else wrong, why worry about that?

July 22nd, 2009

The Soon Coming of the Dominionists – Quantum Physics and Militancy

With the seemingly quick fall of the the soon to be former Alaska Governor, I have retaken an interest in Dominionism. It started with exploring the underpinnings of Todd Bentley, his connection with others, and finally, with full blown Dominionism. Domionism is simple – they believe that they must take over seven mountains of culture, all cultures, including government (No, seriously, they are public about this stuff – nothing tinfoil about it), including our government. During the campaign, they were campaigning (prophesying) hard that Sarah Palin would be in the White House come January. Well, they were slightly off.

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January 17th, 2009

Lance Wallnau and Rick Joyner want your money

Lance Wallnau, Rick Joyner, David Yarnes, Rich Marshall, and Eric Metaxas want your money. Seriously, they are promoting a Kingdom Business Conference, which they say,

The Kingdom Business Association has gained amazing traction, becoming a format for prophetic insight that has proved accurate and desperately needed for these times. If you are a Christian business person, or have a marketplace ministry, you will not want to miss this conference.

Seriously, that’s all that I can find. Here are the media sets from the 2008 conference.

This conference is devoted to teaching the most powerful and effective kingdom principles that are a proven foundation for success for those engaged in business leadership and management in almost any field.  It is also devoted to confirming prophetically the calling of those who come, and to impart prophetic vision that can help shape our times. – Rick Joyner

Here’s the catch,

$50/person (same price applies to children).

That’s right, they supposedly have a gift that they want to share with you, but they are going to charge you an arm and a leg for it. Here’s a hint – if you can afford $50 a head to attend this conference, and you are willing to pay for it, then you will need this conference because you will soon be out of business. Better yet, set up your own website with it and put a conference yourself. I guarantee you to at least double that $50 bucks of yours.

MorningStar Ministries : Registration.

December 10th, 2008

Dominionism: Reclaiming Citizenship, History, and Faith

Here is a series of great posts on Dominionism:

Dominionism, both in and of itself and in the religious and other groups associated with dominionism, share enough characteristics with groups traditionally considered coercive groups (or “cults”, in the case of coercive religious groups) that the groups associated with dominionism, and likely the entire dominionist movement itself, are better seen as a coercive religious group in and of itself rather than as a strictly political movement. It is my belief (as a walkaway and as an informal researcher) that it is likely impossible to fully understand dominionism (as a political movement) unless one sees the political aspects of dominionism in a larger context of a general coercive mindset existing in the “parent” groups of the dominionist movement.

In this post, I will directly compare lists of coercive tactics used by four groups active in research of coercive groups (FACTnet’s summary of research by Dr Margaret Thaler Singer, info from Rick Ross Institute, info from Steven Hassan’s “Freedom of Mind”, and lists from the International Cultic Studies Association (a group, ironically, that had to change its original name, the American Family Foundation, due to confusion with the dominionist group American Family Association)) in comparison with coercive tactics used in the dominionist community at large and with specific aspects of the dominionist community in particular.

The following list is courtesy of the following article at FACTnet, a group who is best known for pointing out coercive tactics used in Scientology but whom also has been doing heavy research as of late in regards to abuses in “Bible-based” coercive groups (including many associated directly with dominionism).

This list is from Dr Margaret Thaler Singer, a major researcher into coercive tactics (both in the vein of “thought reform” techniques used to “brainwash” people in coercive regimes, and also specifically in the use of coercive tactics in spiritually abusive groups).

TACTIC 1. The individual is prepared for thought reform through increased suggestibility and/or “softening up,” specifically through hypnotic or other suggestibility-increasing techniques such as: A. Extended audio, visual, verbal, or tactile fixation drills; B. Excessive exact repetition of routine activities; C. Decreased sleep; D. Nutritional restriction.This is largely an issue with specific practices in dominionist-affiliated churches, but does occur and is known to be coercive:

a) Heavy emphasis on prayer/fasting (especially in dominionist churches with empasis on “word-faith” teaching or “deliverance ministry”, such as New Life Church in Colorado Springs), often multiple 40-day fasts in a year.  (The dominionist church I walked away from also does regular 21-day fasts, and other dominionist groups have tended to promote this as well).

b) Services in dominionist churches are often heavily scripted (to the point that specific playing of music is a “trigger” for the “manifestations” in those churches;  ”Power In The Blood” and “In The Name Of Jesus” are two songs that are often used as specific “trigger songs” in churches into “deliverance ministry”).

c) In some dominionist circles, “biblical diets” are promoted (including not only “What Would Jesus Eat” diets, but the “Cabbage Soup Diet” (which is strongly recommended against by dietitians and which even its promoters recommend never to stay on for longer than seven days) promoted for people on 21 and 40-day fasts who have medical reasons against a total fast)

d) Especially in churches with a heavy emphasis on “deliverance ministry” certain Bible verses are used almost as a mantra.

e) Generally studying the Bible in a fundamentalist context is one of the few, and often the only, form of meditation allowed; in churches into deliverance ministry, it’s even claimed that meditation will cause one to be demonised.

In the case of dominionist groups on a political level, generally there isn’t so much of this (save with “biblical diets” and restriction of information, as noted below) but the dominionist churches serving as “gateway groups” and home churches for the political wings of the dominionist movement do practice these and often.

TACTIC 2. Using rewards and punishments, efforts are made to establish considerable control over a person’s social environment, time, and sources of social support. Social isolation is promoted. Contact with family and friends is abridged, as is contact with persons who do not share group-approved attitudes. Economic and other dependence on the group is fostered. (In the forerunner to coercive persuasion, brainwashing, this was rather easy to achieve through simple imprisonment.)
This is actually quite blatant, both in the “parent churches” of the dominionist movement and in the political/social groups associated with dominionism.

Among other things:

a) Extensive “parallel institutions” exist, including business institutions (in the form of the “Christian Yellow Pages” and similar listings that require a dominionist “statement of faith”), media outlets (via “Christian” radio and television networks; Harpers Magazine has an entire section on it), schooling (homeschooling and private schools in the dominionist community, which will be discussed more in detail in a bit), and social networks (including dominionist alternatives to children’s groups like the Girl Scouts–of which at least two (Royal Rangers/Missionettes and “Heritage Girls” exist)).

b) Families are often told not to associate with people outside the group, and even family members who are not fellow dominionists are seen either as targets for conversion or for damnation.  In “social” dominionist groups, this is exemplified by documented practice of “See You At The Pole” folks of writing names down of people, nailing them to crosses, and praying that they become suicidal unless they become dominionists; in the case of the parent churches, this can go all the way to practices in “deliverance ministry” that preach that all persons outside the church are demonised.

c) Access to outside media is severely restricted.  Even in the “social” and political dominionist groups this is under the guise this is “harmful” or “un-Christian”; in the case of the parent churches, the line tends to go further in claiming that exposure to media outside the church will at best cause one to backslide and (frequently in dominionist churches practicing “deliverance ministry”) claims that any media or contact outside the church will cause one to become demon possessed.  (Again, this will be noted below.)

d) The restriction of info extends specifically to children, in that there is a very heavy emphasis on both use of homeschooling (with dominionist curriculum) and restriction of contacts of children to dominionist-approved groups (including alternatives to the Boy/Girl Scouts). Much of this is explicitly promoted in dominionist literature from the American Family Association and Focus on the Family.

e) Family members outspoken in regards to disapproval of dominionism risk either being disowned or involuntarily exorcised (the former more common in fundamentalist sects, the latter more common in minors and in groups into “deliverance ministry”).

In some cases with dominionists, this even has resulted in businesses founded by them taking on the same coercive tactics; Amway/Quixtar, a group associated with coercive tactics in its business training, was founded by a dominionist and the DeVos Foundation is still a heavy funder of dominionist causes (in fact, the DeVos Foundation is probably the largest funder of dominionist causes in the US along with the Coors family and Scaife family foundations).  Many of the reports of coercive behaviour in Amway/Quixtar have especially been associated with Amway/Quixtar representatives also associated with the Full Gospel Businessmen’s Association (which is a front group of the Assemblies of God targeted towards businessmen; more on front groups in general below).

Pyramid schemes specifically targeting dominionists–called “affinity fraud”–have also become so common (because, in part, of their promotion as a “Christian Alternative”) that state attorneys-general have had to warn about them.

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November 25th, 2008

Seven Mountains – Dr. Lance Wallnau

What are the Seven Mountains?

The seven mountains are seven spheres of influence that make up the mind molders that control Nations. He who occupies these mountains controls the harvest. As Satan gains power over these mountains he increases his capacity for “Mind Control.” That’s the spiritual force that inclines whole people groups to think along the same pathway. It is the phenomenon that explains sudden trends in fashion or music. It works to turn whole continents against each other and will be used to facilitate global wars. Mind Control will increase as the Last Days speeds toward a conclusion.

Here are the Seven Mountains or Mind Molders:

  1. Spirituality and Church
  2. Family
  3. Education
  4. Government and Law
  5. Media and Communication
  6. Arts and Entertainment
  7. Business and Finance

World Rulers of Darkness operate through people. Their goal is to penetrate key strategic positions at the tops of the mountains, and to populate these positions with people who will become gatekeepers to their foul agendas. A small group in control of Media with a homosexual bias can put on programs that make the Gay lifestyle appealing and entertaining. This media pummeling has the effect of softening minds to the issues of morality and creates intolerance for moral absolutes regarding sexual purity and a false tolerance for perversion.

Mind Molders work together in order to accomplish the strategies of the devil. This year alone, the family (Family Mountain) has come under assault by government legislatures (Government Mountain) in the State of Massachusetts to recognize that the union of a man and a woman is a thing of the past. Men now marry men and woman marry woman. Simultaneous with this, education (another mountain) chartered a school in New York to honor those students with a homosexual preference.

Abortion and Pornography are coming through this same gate at a rate that is barely keeping up with the number of marriages falling apart and the number of men and youth who are becoming addicted to sex on the internet.

The same strategy to leverage the power of mind molders is now being worked out by the spirit of Anti Christ in Europe. “Anti” means against or “instead of” – and “Christ” means “anointing”. Therefore it is the name of a spirit that opposes Christians and seeks an alternative anointing. The World Ruler of Islam has so successfully joined with the spirit of Anti Christ in Europe that America is now the most hated country and George Bush in particular is now the number one most hated leader in Europe.

This, less than one generation after young Americans spilled blood to liberate our friends from the tyranny of Hitler’s war machine. How can this happen? Again, it’s called end time mind control. The manipulation and infection of the hearts and minds of people in mass through the mind molders. By the way, what is the number one thing Europeans most dislike about the President? His piety, they don’t like the fact that he is a praying Christian!

Remember, Anti Christ is anti anointing. Europeans aren’t against all prayer. They don’t mind Muslims praying three times a day toward Mecca. This explains why a land where churches once dominated the landscape is now laced with golden domed Mosques dotting the horizon. This and the sudden rise of the European economy as their currency surpasses the U.S. dollar make all those who are afraid of being “Left Behind” nervous. But God has a plan- “Go into the entire world, all its systems, its mind molders and its Nations and infiltrate the world with My power and teaching. Don’t run and don’t hide.

Go through the door of globalization- world economics- and while it is yet day, while opportunity exists, penetrate these nations and systems with a demonstration of a belief system that has superior power and results. This is what Daniel did in Babylon and what Joseph did in Egypt. This is a large part of the reason why God is blowing on the marketplace message in this hour. This is a day where third world nations are asking for help, and developing nations are seeking to trade. The window is wide open to the church to impact the world. Opportunity is everywhere.

The anointing and the spirit of wisdom will give you access to people and places that will be altered by the covert and overt application of these commands. That’s right- you can be covert! One friend of mine is transforming entire schools and businesses by applying certain key commandments to his client’s lives and systems. They are not even aware of the degree to which their organizations are being aligned with the teachings of Christ. All they know is that it’s working. In schools the students are getting better grades and discipline problems are on the decline. In business the people are starting to work like real teams and treating each other with respect. Companies are prospering. It works!

The 50 Commandments of Christ are the key to transforming your home, community and business. Memorize them. Meditate upon them. Ask the Holy Spirit for illumination on how to apply them to your life. Expect God to put His divine favor upon you. Favor takes you to the top of the mountains. Be full of the Holy Spirit and you will break the power of Mind Control off of every system you invade.

The above was from here.

This is one of those rare areas you do get to see the real intention of Joel’s Army and Dominionism the demonization of all things liberal, such as Europe. Try to remember the old days of the Left Behind garbage – the Europe was to given rise the Antichrist. Joel’s Army takes it a bit further by having Europe serve as a vassal to Russia which suddenly becomes the antichrist. (Ever wondered why everyone jumped on Georgia’s side over the summer?)Of course, it does not end there – Muslims, Buddhists, Homosexuals, and all sorts of sinners – perhaps even me – are not servants in the vast army of the antichrist. They are all involved in the conspiracy to undermine the United States, from the attacks on traditional values to out right attacks on us. This is the move of the antichrist against the Church. Scott Lively founded a tributary to Joel’s Army, Watchmen At The Walls, seeking a particularly nasty form of Holocaust revisionism in which some of the persons who were in fact victims of the Holocaust are portrayed as its instigators, only with the word “Jew” replaced with “Homosexual”.

Wallnau didn’t begin the idea of ‘Seven Mountains’ but ‘gained’ it from another source.  He does have his critics (one site critical of Joel’s Army notes a possible derivation from a Coalition on Revival document)–but the linkages are especially clear in regards to Joel’s Army circles.  Wallnau’s primary partner in promoting the “seven mountains” meme is none other than C. Peter Wagner – regarded, along with Rick Joyner and Rodney Howard-Browne, as one of the literal “founding fathers” of Joel’s Army:

Lance Wallnau, who is now working with  C. Peter Wagner on a global dominionism project using the motif of 7 mountains (or “spheres”), has proposed a strategy whereby-

“a very small minority of people. . . as small as 3-5% . . . can control how the agenda works in a nation and thus create or dominate the culture.

“He also makes a rather shocking statement….

“He says leaders of countries are not looking for Christian solutions to their cultural problems. But what they ARE looking for represents a massive time-sensitive opportunity for Christians to have a platform to impact and disciple entire countries of our world today.” [Os Hillman, "Weekly Resource Offer," June 18]

YWAM founder Loren Cunningham who along with Campus Crusade for Christ founder Bill Bright  plagiarized it from TV preacher Dr. Francis Schaeffer back in 1975:

It was August, 1975.  My family and I were up in a little cabin in Colorado.  And the Lord had given me that day a list of things I had never thought about before.  He said “This is the way to reach America and nations for God.  And {He said}, “You have to see them like classrooms or like places that were already there, and go into them with those who are already working in those areas.”  And I call them “mind-molders” or “spheres”.  I got the word “spheres” from II Corinthians 10 where Paul speaks in the New American Standard about the “spheres” he had been called into.  And with these spheres there were seven of them, and I’ll get to those in a moment.  But it was a little later that day, the ranger came up, and he said, “There is a phone call for you back at the ranger’s station.”    So I went back down, about 7 miles, and took the call.  It was a mutual friend who said, “Bill Bright and Vonnette are in Colorado at the same time as you are.  Would you and Darlene come over and meet with them? They would love to meet with you.”  So we flew over to Boulder on a private plane of a friend of ours.  And as we came in and greeted each other, {we were friends for quite a while}, and I was reaching for my yellow paper that I had written on the day before.  And he said, “Loren, I want to show you what God has shown me!” And it was virtually the same list that God had given me the day before.  Three weeks later, my wife Darlene had seen Dr. Francis Shaffer on TV and he had the same list!  And so I realized that this was for the body of Christ.

I gave it for the first time in Hamburg, Germany at the big cathedral there to a group of hundreds of young people that had gathered at that time. And I said, “These are the areas that you can go into as missionaries.  Here they are:  First, it’s the institution set up by God first, the family.  After the family was church, or the people of God.  The third was the area of school, or education.  The fourth was media, public communication, in all forms, printed and electronic.  The fifth was what I call “celebration”, the arts, entertainment, and sports, where you celebrate within a culture.  The sixth would be the whole area of the economy, which starts with innovations in science and technology, productivity, sales, and service.  The whole area we often call it business but we leave out sometimes the scientific part, which actually raises the wealth of the world.  Anything new, like making sand into chips for a microchip, that increases wealth in the world.  And then of course prediction sales and service helps to spread the wealth.  And so the last was the area of government.  Now government, the Bible shows in Isaiah 33 verse 22 that there are three branches of government, so it’s all of the three branches:  judicial, legislative, and executive.  And then there are subgroups under all of those seven groups.  And there are literally thousands upon thousands of sub-groups.  But those seven can be considered like Caleb:  ”Give me this mountain,” and they can be a “mountain” to achieve for God.

There’s some evidence Bright also plagiarized from a secondary source–a neo-Calvinist Abraham Kuyper and of course Rousas John Rushdoony – indicating some of the more interesting influences in the Joel’s Army movement outside of pentecostalism.

November 14th, 2008

Seven Mountains of Joel's Army – A Template for Warfare

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“Here is the mind which has wisdom: The seven heads are seven mountains on which the woman sits. There are also seven kings. Five have fallen, one is, and the other has not yet come. And when he comes, he must continue a short time. The beast that was, and is not, is himself also the eighth, and is of the seven, and is going to perdition. (Revelation 17:9-11 NKJV)

Did you notice that they all say the same thing? They have told you exactly what they plan to do, to overtake the ‘gates of commerce’, so that it can provide a tipping point to control the culture. C. Peter Wagner has said that he wants an ‘Apostolic Government’ by 2012.

So, what do we do?