King James Version Onlyism – The Paper what will Change the Course of History

So this post was originally the paper – but now it is in this book:

Contrary to Opinion, the KJV WAS NOT published in 33ad

  • Seventeen percent of those surveyed believe the King James Bible was first released shortly after the time of Christ.
  • Younger Americans (age 18 to 26), often categorized as considerably less religious than older Americans (age 65 and older), are equally likely to be unsure of why the King James Bible was significant (34 percent vs. 33 percent respectively).
  • Non-Christians or those with no faith are approximately twice as likely to know when the King James Bible was published (32 percent), than are non-practicing Christians (17 percent).
  • Approximately half (45 percent) of all Bible readers use the King James Bible; far fewer say they read the New International Version (10 percent).
  • Approximately six out of 10 adults who own a Bible own a King James Bible (57 percent) whereas only one out of eight Bible owners have a New International Version (12 percent).

via News Releases – American Bible Society Newsroom – DeMossNews.com.

HT - James McGrath on Facebook

Big, big #facepalm…

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A Litmus test for Chrsitian Orthodoxy?

WACO, Texas (ABP) — Like the Old Testament prophet Ezekiel’s “wheel in the middle of a wheel,” King James-only churches represent a resilient subculture within the subculture of American fundamentalist Protestants, some scholars insist.

King James-only churches believe God preserved the inerrancy of the 1611 translation of the English Bible — perhaps even using it to correct errors in earlier versions of Scripture, said Jeffrey Straub, professor of historical theology at Central Baptist Theological Seminary in Plymouth, Minn.

“Few issues have had the kind of polarizing effect that the battle over Bible versions in general, and the battle for the KJV in particular, have had within some segments of American Protestantism,” Straub told a group during a conference at Baylor University marking the 400th anniversary of the King James Bible.

For King James-only Christians, he explained, “the use of the King James 1611 — as opposed to corruption of the KJV which include the New King James and even the New Scofield Reference Bible which updated certain words within the text, rendering it a corruption of the original KJV — has become the litmus test for Christian orthodoxy. The sign of a biblical church becomes the Bible version used from the pulpit.”

via Associated Baptist Press – King James-only adherents apply inerrancy to 1611 Bible translation.

Okay, where have I heard that before… that litmus test bit… where you have believe some silliness which is not historical what.so.ever…. now, where have I heard that before… let me see….

Revelation 22:18-19, KJVO Style

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The last sermon I heard preached at the previous place of worship was by a very angry man – generally angry, but on this occasion, angry at me for using something other than the KJV-1611 (which, ironically, he didn’t use either). He used the text which Jason analyzes. Why? Because they see that in the KJV (generally an Oxford 1769) and say ‘See, so you cannot have modern translations’.

Problem:

And I solemnly declare to everyone who hears the words of prophecy written in this book: If anyone adds anything to what is written here, God will add to that person the plagues described in this book. And if anyone removes any of the words from this book of prophecy, God will remove that person’s share in the tree of life and in the holy city that are described in this book.
(Rev 22:18-19 NLT)

Every translation says the same thing here, but before that, so did the Greek, but in Greek. And, what’s really great, is that the sanctions are really only for either Deuteronomy or Revelation, but texts set in the apocalyptic arena.  Anyway, check out his post:

Revelation 22:18-19 And The King James Only Debate | Pastoral Musings.

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Points with the KJVO

First, from Brian,

PEOPLE LISTEN the niv and all other bibles are not the true translation only the kjv bible is the true bible don’t be decieved by the devil because the antichrist is comming to decieve you. The end is comming soon. The nniv as it is called is going to be worse not corrected. Zoldermens is making up storys it is man made. That is why there are so many bibles comming out. They aren’t the true bible. Any church that uses anything but the kjv bible is teaching the wrong thing. This was predicted in the kjv bible 2Timothy 4. Look for yourself.

Well, not really him, but one of his fly by commentators…

Then Rick, who blogs here, has been discussing several standard KJVO viewpoints…

HCSB (Holman Christian Standard Bible) « Better Bibles Blog.

I prevented God this morning

I grew up on the King James version of the bible, believing that is was the sole word of God. This is called King James Onlyism and is heavily promoted by fundamentalists, especially of the Baptist variety. This tradition is barely a century old, yet many old to it as a sacred doctrine near only to that of the Godhead.

One of the issues that I have with the KJV-Onlyism is that it doesn’t allow for an update of language. The English language, as most living languages, is prone to change, and when the languages changed, it is important that the meaning of the communication is not lost.

For instance, if we were to abide in ignorance of the King James, we would understand that David stopped God by a prayer,

But unto thee have I cried, O LORD; and in the morning shall my prayer prevent thee.  (Psalms 88:13 KJVA)

But at at least we will not prevent those that are asleep in Christ from being called away.

For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. (1 Thessalonians 4:15 KJVA)

‘Prevent’ in the KJV comes from the Hebrew word קדם which means to ‘precede’, and in no way does it actually carry the meaning of ‘stopping’. The same is said of the Greek word φθάνω.

The NKJV translates the words properly,

But to You I have cried out, O LORD, And in the morning my prayer comes before You.  (Psalms 88:13 NKJV)

And

For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep.  (1 Thessalonians 4:15 NKJV)

Further, the words ‘advertise’ means ‘tell’ (Ruth 4.4), ‘allege’ means ‘prove’ (Acts 17.3), and ‘conversation’ means ‘behavior’ (Galations 1.3); ‘communicate’ means ‘share’ (Galations 6.6) ‘take no thought’ means ‘be anxious’ (Matthew 6.32) and meat is a general word for food.

“The plain truth of the matter is that the version that is so cherished among senior saints who have more or less come to terms with Elizabethan English, is obscure, confusing, and sometimes even incomprehensible to many younger or poorly educated Christians. The words of Edwin H. Palmer are not too strong: ‘Do not give them a loaf of bread, covered with an inedible, impenetrable crust, fossilized by three and a half centuries. Give them the Word of God as fresh and warm and clear as the Holy Spirit gave it to the authors of the Bible. . . . For any preacher or theologian who loves God’s Word to allow that Word to go on being misunderstood because of the veneration of an archaic, not-understood version of four centuries ago is inexcusable, and almost unconscionable’ ” (The King James Version Debate: A Plea For Realism, D. A. Carlson, Baker Book House, 1979, pp. 101,102) [emphasis ours].

When is it okay to deface bibles?

There is a guy that floats around various Yahoo groups, such as WhichVersions and Versions, named Peter Furhman who testifies that he burnt loads of bibles because they were not King James Versions.

What a shame to be infected with this man made doctrine that much that you would burn the very Word of God.

From here.