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February 18th, 2011

Joyce Meyer: God wants you to wiggle

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Speaking at a conference in Dallas on Thursday, Joyce Meyer reflected on her brother’s lonely death in Los Angeles in December, saying that she overcame her struggles by taking ‘responsibility for her behavior, her brother always ran away from his’. Saying if you make an attempt to get out of the situation you are in, then God will help you.

“I think sometimes God has a miracle for people but he sees if they’re going to wiggle first,” she said. “Next time you’re having a pity party and want to give up, I hope the Holy Ghost whispers in your ear, wiggle!”

What Meyer says is right. Just running away never works. Confronting the problems head-on does work … and God helps. I say this from my own experience.

Joyce Meyer Opens Up about Brother’s Tragic Death | The Christian Post

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April 14th, 2010

Joyce Meyer denounces Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill

Way to go, Joyce! I note that her ministry has also cooperated with the Federal probe. To be honest, while I might disagree with her on a few points, I believe that she is an example of a public and high profile ministry.

It is increasingly evident that the proposed “Anti-Homosexuality Bill” introduced in the Ugandan parliament is a profoundly offensive, dangerous and disturbing attack on the very foundation of individual liberties and human rights afforded not only to the good citizens of Uganda, but on the at-large global community.

If enacted, this hostile legislation will also further, and adversely, serve as a major setback in the global health efforts to combat Uganda’s AIDS epidemic and reduce the record-high infection rates among the country’s HIV population, an already at-risk community that could be further ostracized, threatened, and targeted as potential criminals.

Our missions and ministry message has always been to teach that the Word of God is about helping people – all people – learn that God loves them and has a purpose for their lives, not put guilt or condemnation on them.

As a global society, we do not have to agree, endorse or condone the lifestyle choices of others. However, history has taught us that we equally cannot and should not excuse those who would hide behind religion or misuse God’s word to justify bigotry and persecution.

With this statement, our motivation and intent is not to interfere with Uganda’s political agenda or internal affairs. As believers, however, we have a moral and ethical duty that compels us to speak out against injustice wherever it may be in the world.

Joyce Meyer Ministries

via Joyce Meyer denounces Uganda’s Anti-Homosexuality Bill — Warren Throckmorton.

March 21st, 2009

Be careful what you buy in Christian bookstores – Put down the Paula White and step away

Marsha West writes another excellent article, from here:

It’s understandable that free-market conservatives are deeply troubled that Barack Obama has taken the reins of power. Already we see America moving even closer to socialism than before. But to me what’s even more troubling than what’s going on in Washington D.C. is the clear and present danger in Christendom. Let me spell out the problem as I see it: A-p-o-s-t-a-s-y.

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March 3rd, 2009

Rare Early Pentecostal Recordings Discovered

This will make some pretty happy If I had the time, I might would listen to see which of the predictions came true.

In the last two years, a discovery of great magnitude has occurred in the Pentecostal/Charismatic branch of Christianity.

Previously unknown audio recordings of early Pentecostal leaders have been discovered by Rev. Mel C. Montgomery, and have been uploaded to his website. Visitors may click on “Rare Recordings” and listen to these historic treasures for free.

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February 19th, 2009

Christianity in Crisis: 21st Century

Once upon a time, long long ago, on a far away planet, there lived a good God—a Being who stands about 6’2” to 6’3”, weighs a couple of hundred pounds, and has a handspan of 9 inches…and God named his carbon copy “Adam,” and he gave him authority over the entire creation. As a matter of fact, this creature had so much power that his Creator could do nothing in the earth realm without first obtaining his permission…then God, in a flash, became the greatest failure of all time.

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December 27th, 2008

Ministry Watchdog Releases 2008 ‘Donor Alert’ List

An independent organization that reviews Christian ministries for financial accountability and transparency has released its annual list of the top 30 most exemplary ministries and, for the first time, a list of 30 “donor alert” ministries.

Though Matthews, N.C.-based Wall Watchers for years has released its list of “Shining Light” ministries and a regular bulletin of “donor alerts” concerning potential frauds and pitfalls for donors, this year marks the first time it has released an official list of “30 Donor Alert Ministries” through its website, MinistryWatch.com.

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October 24th, 2008

Pastors believe God wants people to have financial success

via Pastors believe God wants people to have financial success | Freep.com | Detroit Free Press

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In recent years, proponents of what some call the “prosperity gospel” have gotten popular after the televangelists of the 1980s faded away. No two preachers are the same, and some are reluctant to use that phrase to describe themselves. But they all share a belief that God wants you to be successful, including financially. Here are some prominent ones:

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August 28th, 2008

Biblical Judgment and False Prophets

If you have read this blog for any amount of time, you know that I have no problem calling out the wolves among the sheep. I have often times been attack for ‘judging’ these people, so in an effort to have a quick resource guide to point to at a later date, I am posting but a few things on judgment in the Bible.

And Jehoshaphat dwelt at Jerusalem: and he went out again through the people from Beersheba to mount Ephraim, and brought them back unto the LORD God of their fathers. And he set judges in the land throughout all the fenced cities of Judah, city by city, And said to the judges, Take heed what ye do: for ye judge not for man, but for the LORD, who is with you in the judgment. Wherefore now let the fear of the LORD be upon you; take heed and do it: for there is no iniquity with the LORD our God, nor respect of persons, nor taking of gifts.  (2Ch 19:4-7 KJVA)

Yes, we know that this is the Old Testament, but Christ did not End the Law, He Fulfilled the the Law, so the ‘Old Testament’ is still of some use to us. Now, in reality, this verse has nothing to do with calling someone out on doctrine, but we must note that it is God who established judges.

Judge not, that ye be not judged. For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again. And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother’s eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother’s eye.  (Mat 7:1-5 KJVA)

This verse is often quoted to the point that it is mere mud. Nearly every commentator will agree that the judgment of which Christ is talking about “is against the kind of hypocritical, judgmental attitude that tears others down in order to build oneself up. It is not a blanket statement to overlook wrong behavior of others but a call to be discerning rather than negative.” (LASB) In the very same chapter, we are commanded concerning false prophets,

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Therefore by their fruits you will know them.  (Mat 7:15-20 NKJV)

Peter tells us,

But there were also false prophets among the people, even as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Lord who bought them, and bring on themselves swift destruction. And many will follow their destructive ways, because of whom the way of truth will be blasphemed. By covetousness they will exploit you with deceptive words; for a long time their judgment has not been idle, and their destruction does not slumber. (2Pe 2:1-3 NKJV)

Jude was not bashful about pointing them out when he called them,

These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about[3] by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.  (Jud 1:12-13 NKJV)

Paul goes beyond Jude by telling us,

For there are many insubordinate, both idle talkers and deceivers, especially those of the circumcision, whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole households, teaching things which they ought not, for the sake of dishonest gain.  (Tit 1:10-11 NKJV)

Who mouths must be stopped is literally “whom it is necessary to silence”. Paul tells Timothy to teach against these doctrines and these people!

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer. If you instruct the brethren in these things (speaking about the doctrines of demons), you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ, nourished in the words of faith and of the good doctrine which you have carefully followed. (1Ti 4:1-6 NKJV)

The duty Paul calls on Timothy to exercise is described in the NKJV as instruct, in the KJV as to put in remembrance of, in the LITV as having laid down, and the NIV as if you point out these things. The Greek word may be difficult to translate accurately, but the meaning is clear. Noting that the Greek word is used here as a present participle, which means repeated or continuous action, is important. Preachers are commanded to give their people regular counsel and advice on the reality and dangers of false doctrine. Preachers of Christ must teach believers to be discerning by encouraging them to think biblically and separate truth from error. Measuring it against the infallible and inerrant Word of God exposes false teaching. Listen again to what Paul says, If you instruct the brethren in these things, you will be a good minister of Jesus Christ. The man who fails in this duty cannot be deemed to be a good minister of Jesus Christ. Exposing false teachers is a biblical injunction. In a faithful church exposing false doctrine forms part of the ministry of the church.

Paul warns us again that these false ministers are after the working of the adversary, not sincere people making mistakes.

For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into apostles of Christ. And no wonder! For Satan himself transforms himself into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, whose end will be according to their works. (2Co 11:13-15 NKJV)

As Paul was leaving the Elders at Ephesus, he preached a final sermon to them, reminding them of their duty, of his duty, and of the dangers to the Church,

Therefore take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to shepherd the church of God which He purchased with His own blood. For I know this, that after my departure savage wolves will come in among you, not sparing the flock. Also from among yourselves men will rise up, speaking perverse things, to draw away the disciples after themselves. Therefore watch, and remember that for three years I did not cease to warn everyone night and day with tears. “So now, brethren, I commend you to God and to the word of His grace, which is able to build you up and give you an inheritance among all those who are sanctified. I have coveted no one’s silver or gold or apparel. Yes, you yourselves know that these hands have provided for my necessities, and for those who were with me. I have shown you in every way, by laboring like this, that you must support the weak. And remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He said, “It is more blessed to give than to receive.”‘ (Act 20:28-35 NKJV)

Further, Paul commands the Church to mark those people, brethren, that cause divisions. Paul has a great compassion for the Church, so much so as to not let even brothers and sisters to harm her.

Now I urge you, brethren, note those who cause divisions and offenses, contrary to the doctrine which you learned, and avoid them. For those who are such do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly, and by smooth words and flattering speech deceive the hearts of the simple. (Rom 16:17-18 NKJV)

But we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly and not according to the tradition which he received from us.  (2Th 3:6 NKJV)

And if anyone does not obey our word in this epistle, note that person and do not keep company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet do not count him as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. (2Th 3:14-15 NKJV)

Tell me, would you add or detract from this list?

FALSE PROPHETS AND TEACHERS…Benny Hinn, T.D. Jakes, Robert Schuller, Marilyn Hickey, Paul and Jan Crouch, Rod Parsley, R.W. Shambach, Carlton Pearson, John Avanzinni, Kenneth & Gloria Copeland, John Hagee, Jessie Duplantis, Oral Roberts, Richard Roberts, Kenneth Hagin Sr., Kenneth Hagin Jr., Frederick Price, Creflo Dollar, Rodney Howard Browne, Jack Van Impe, Rinehard Bonnke, Joyce Meyer, Morris Cerullo, John Kilpatrick, Clarence McClendon, Rick Joyner, Hal Lindsey, Charles Capps, Robert Tilton, Ellen G. White, Joseph Smith, Kim Clement, Mark Charonna, Juanita Bynum, Brigham Young, Benny Hinn, Kenneth Copeland, Jack Van Impe, John Kilpatrick.

August 7th, 2008

A love that scares us in its purity and suffering

Anyone who knows the real me, not my internet persona of Polycarp, but me, knows that I believe in a life lived for others. It is a high call of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the highest being to worship our Lord Christ in holiness. One of those tenets that establishes holiness in the heart is selflessness. It is an unselfish attitude that drives a Saint to give up him or herself to worship God. When you begin to put God first, these worldly trappings fall away, becoming nothing. Yes, it will change us on the outside, but on the inside as well.

Holiness too is the selfless living for others. Do we have an extra dollar to spare? Do we have time for help? Do we have the moment in this life to lift someone else up? I know that this is not the preaching of the prosperity preachers and their perverted gospel, but it is the preaching of Christ who Himself served as the example of a life lived in service to others.

This article touched me, I must admit, and I hope that it gets to you a bit too.

A love that scares us in its purity and suffering – PD Opinion – Editorial views and columns from The Plain Dealer.

WASHINGTON — In a recent investigative profile, the Associated Press tells the depressingly familiar story of televangelist Kenneth Copeland. His ministry’s private jet and lakeside mansion. The complex web of ranching, oil and media interests that benefits his extended family. In this case, there is no taint of hypocrisy. Copeland practices what he preaches — a doctrine that God wants his followers to prosper in very material ways.

This prosperity gospel combines two of the most powerful forces on Earth: the profit motive and the power of positive thinking. At its best, it inspires hard work, generosity and the avoidance of life-destroying vices. At its worst, it is religiously infantile.

“I believe God wants to give us nice things,” says evangelist Joyce Meyer.

“I think God wants us to be prosperous,” pastor Joel Osteen assures us. “I think He wants us to be happy.”

Whatever ethical problems such leaders may or may not have, they face a large theological challenge. A religious system that promises happiness and “nice things” is difficult to reconcile with the faith whose founder had “no place to lay his head,” urged his followers not to store up “treasures on earth,” and called on them to deny themselves and take up a cross of suffering.

This has never made the best marketing message: What company would adopt the electric chair or the hangman’s noose as its logo? Christianity has always dealt in hard truths — that God is not a means to our own ends, and that suffering is unavoidable in lives bounded by mortality and often wrecked by failure.

“I think God wants us to be prosperous,” evangelist Joel Osteen has said.

Suffering for the sake of suffering is useless; it is merely masochism. But when suffering cannot be escaped as the health-and-wealth preachers promise — or even nobly endured as the Stoics promise — it may perhaps be transformed. “If you and I can share our pain,” said the late theologian Henri Nouwen, “suddenly we find grace and joy coming in. In your tears and anguish and struggle, you suddenly discover community, you suddenly discover friendship, you suddenly discover affection, you suddenly discover forgiveness, you suddenly discover healing. All these things come through vulnerability.”

And in this odd faith where the poor in spirit are blessed, the highest ideal is suffering for others — though most of us do precious little of it. This model of spiritual leadership has nothing to do with conventional measures of success and influence. It is found in the medical missionary who buries his or her life in the forgotten relief of forgotten suffering. In the dying pope who speaks for the vulnerable by exposing his own shocking vulnerability.

One of the most vivid literary pictures of this leadership comes from a strange source — a self-loathing, self-described “Catholic agnostic,” prone to prostitutes, opium and suicide attempts. In Graham Greene’s “The Power and the Glory,” set in the 1930s, Mexico’s authorities destroy churches and hunt down priests for execution. An unnamed whiskey priest — disguised and constantly moving — doggedly performs his sacramental duties while knowing he is a spiritual failure. He has a mistress, a child and a problem with alcohol.

But stripped of dignity, respect and possessions, he discovers an identification with the poor around him. “When you visualized a man or woman carefully,” he observes, “you could always begin to feel pity — that was a quality God’s image carried with it. When you saw the lines at the corners of the eyes, the shape of the mouth, how the hair grew, it was impossible to hate. Hate was just a failure of imagination.”

Having reached safety in a neighboring state, the whiskey priest returns, knowing he will be captured and killed, to deliver the last rights to a murderer. The priest is driven by suffering and sin down to the level of his fellow men, until he is worthy to die for them. During this hard descent into sainthood, he finds that God’s love is often different from what we expect. “It would be enough to scare us — God’s love. It set fire to a bush in the desert, didn’t it, and smashed open graves and set the dead walking in the dark. Oh, a man like me would run a mile to get away if he felt that love around.”

But ultimately, this love offers a hope greater than health and prosperity: that even our flawed and halfhearted lives may, perhaps, be redeemed — and even used as an instrument to redeem others.

Gerson is a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations and a columnist for the Washington Post.

August 3rd, 2008

4 TV ministries won't comply with probe

If we are commanded to be honest in the sight of all men, then I have to wonder just what they are keeping back.

Providing for honest things, not only in the sight of the Lord, but also in the sight of men. (2nd Corinthians 8.21)

Baptist Press – 4 TV ministries won’t comply with probe – News with a Christian Perspective.

4 TV ministries won’t comply with probe

Posted on Jul 25, 2008 | by Staff WASHINGTON (BP)–Four television ministries still have refused to comply fully with a U.S. Senate committee’s probe into their financial records nearly nine months after first being asked.

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July 29th, 2008

Making Idols Out of God's Good Gifts

Christian Leaders Must Be Careful Not To Elevate Constitutional Principles Above Biblical Principles

In Exodus 3 we see one of the most beautiful, delicious ironies in all of recorded human history. It is the story of the captives plundering the captors. Just before the Hebrew people were led out of Egypt by Moses, the women asked their Egyptian masters for gifts to see them on their journey: “But every woman shall ask of her neighbor and the woman who lives in her house, articles of silver and articles of gold, and clothing; and you will put them on your sons and daughters. Thus you will plunder the Egyptians.” (Ex. 3:22)

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