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April 18th, 2013

Jim, I have named your demons

Jim posted a picture today, after a rough week in the blogosphere. I saw an instant opportunity to help him out, being the friend that I am. See, if you are able to name your demons, according to the proper lore, you can exorcise them.

So, I am helping him out.

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April 11th, 2013

Why me, Lord?

Portrait of Ulrich Zwingli after his death 1531

L v Z

Dr. Cargill has responded to the current string of posts regarding the dismissal of Scholarship based on the (non/lack of, almost) supernatural views of the person who holds them. As I have posted several times, I struggled with accepting scholarship from a Seventh-Day Adventist even though I used LDS scholarship, both groups considered at the very least heterodox by orthodox Christians.

My good friend, Dr. Jim West — who is one of the most warmest souls to have met in person, who has always been there to give me advice, help, and a shoulder to cry on and I could go on (I mean, Jim has practically forced me to read Bultmann, Zwingli, and to consider minimalism as a valid Christian undertaking) — has (non-)responded. But the problem I have with this and it is one I’ve struggled with how to say it for the past few hours is that this is ALMOST THE EXACT SAME THING, at least in the same mold, AS LITTLE HONEY TEE TEE SAYS.

Zwingli on the bronze doors by Otto Münch (193...

Zwingli on the bronze doors by Otto Münch (1935) on the Grossmünster in Zürich, Switzerland. (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

No, I am not going to post links to the — what is the polite way of saying heretical little idiot devoid of any ounce either of Christianity or knowledge and so far away from any type of truth that it would be impossible for him to learn even the must rudimentary of syllables to say “truth”? — guy’s (who had to leave the U.S. for South Korea before he was arrested) blog. But within the last few days, TT has “written” posts suggests that only those truly born again (John 3, you know, the one with Holy Spirit) can know what truth is, etc… Also, he thinks Augustine is an atheist. An atheist!

As I have written several times, I view the Spirit in John 14-16 as the Spirit that guides us into all truth. This is the allowance for doctrinal development, progression, or correction as well as science, sociological advancement and the like. This is the same spirit Justin believed inhabited the Greek Philosophers before him, a belief Luther reports as shared by Zwingli:

After three days of hotly debating with Martin Luther in Marburg the nature of the Eucharist, Huldreich Zwingli, the Swiss Reformer, gripped Luther’s hands and said: “Here we’re fighting. Doctor Martinus, but, thank God, one nice day we both will be dead and then in Heaven we shall know the Truth, walking with the great sages, with Socrates, Plato, Aristotle . . .”

“Doctor Zwingli,” Luther interrupted him rudely, “They were pagans; they were not baptized; they are roasting in the everlasting fires of Hell.”

But they were good men, were virtuous and followed their consciences.”

“If you talk like this, you’re not a Christian—and I regret to have wasted my time with you,” Luther snapped back.

Perhaps I am but a novice, without a phd to my name yet, but if Zwingli and Justin before him can allow pagans, philosophers, and others to have the same Spirit that raised Jesus from the dead guide them and their work (i.e., Scholarship), I won’t pretend that it gives me some super-secret revelation and thus validates my Scholarship.

I fully expect to be defriended for this post, but alas, here I stand. I can do no other.

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April 8th, 2013

The United States is…

Constitution of the United States, page 4

Constitution of the United States, page 4 (Photo credit: Wikipedia)

The discussion on Jim’s post is generating some decent stuff. Unfortunately, I cannot let one thing go by. Jim is wrong when he says:

I object to marriages which occur outside the community recognized ‘one man and one woman’ definition. The state is the embodiment of the will of the people in a democracy, ergo the state has no business nor right to recognize what the majority doesn’t.

via Marriage Is… | Zwinglius Redivivus.

We do not live in a democracy. We live in a Republic. A Republic runs counter to the will of the people. A Democratic Republic elects its leaders democratically but still must run counter to the will of the people if the will of the people is counter to the laws set forth. Our constitution does not establish a majority decision, but has placed in the hands of the Judiciary the singular ability to decide if something is right by the law or not. While the legislative body decides law, the Judiciary decides legality according to the Constitution.

So, Jim is wrong here. Equal Rights before the Law is not based, in this country, on democratic principles but on whether or not the Constitution upholds it.

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March 16th, 2013

Jim still isn’t convinced Simcha and Tabor are correct

And should he be. As much as some like Tabor, many people he is following a conman, er, conperson in Simcha (I’m not using the dollar sign because Simcha said it was an attack against his Jewish ethnicity. I don’t want to be accused of that, because that’s not my goal. I just think Simcha is out to make money, regardless of truth).

Anyway, read something of Jim’s thoughts here.

February 13th, 2013

Top 10 things to give up during Lent

What am I giving up for Lent? Click here!

  1. Jim West – Zwinglius Redivivus
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December 20th, 2012

Insert Pun about the Virgin Birth – My take

First, it begins here with comments by Dr. Francesca Stavrakopoulou, an expert in the Hebrew bible. T. Michael Law, the expert in the Greek Old Testament, known in the heavenly tongue as Septuagint, weighs in about the mistranslation part. Mark Goodacre finds his mic. John Barton, a colleague of Jim’s via SOTS, weighs in as well.

Dr. Stravrakopoulou suggests that Matthew reads Isaiah 7.14 as a mistranslation resulting in the understanding a virgin birth. The Law is laid down on whether or not the LXX Isaiah is a mistranslation or not. The LXX is not a mistranslation (in part, as there is no real whole translation theory until after the time of Jesus) but a re-authoring. That’s my pet theory, I guess. Anyway, Goodacre does a great job (warning, British accent that lulls you in) of discussing the use of Scripture in telling the story.

However, Barton is the focal point for me.

that no one would have translated parthenos as virgin unless there had ALREADY been a virgin-birth tradition.

There is a very important virginal/extra-natural birth tradition pre-dating Matthew’s retelling the story of Jesus. Noah, at Qumran and in Enoch (an obviously important book to early /an/Christians, is presented as havingmiraculous birth. I am also going to go into my other pet theory, that the genealogy has something to do with Stoicism, etc… although this is not well-defined and thus, I’ll leave this for later.

A few other areas to look:

  • Virgil in the fourth Eclogue, recognized by the Patristics as problematic so re-interpreted. 
  • Augustus was said to have had his birth announced by portent among other supernatural occurrences

There iss a fertile ground in Matthew’s world not for a mistranslation, but for the use of portents, births out of the natural order to explain surprise births, and to highlight the divine qualities of a person. This is not, in anyway, required to be connected to a Greco-Roman schema of demigods and the such. Matthew, no doubt, intended his audience to understand that Mary was impregnated according to God’s will, the first factor in the greatness of Jesus and used his bible, the LXX (because, as T. Michael Law would have it, God Spoke Greek), to do so. He was not the first Jew to promote the divine-ordained, and free of the sins of this world, birth of a prophet to other Jews, but followed a rather Jewish pattern as seen in the Genesis Apocryphon and Enoch, books and thoughts closer to the authors of the Gospels and much more palatable to their audience than Greco-Roman myths.

This gets into the post-/structural debate of placing emphasis. Either we place it on Matthew or the audience, although I like the middle ground myself. We can reasonably identify certain qualities of Matthew and we can reasonably identify the audience in a certain social situation, but not the initial reception beyond that of acceptance. My supposition is that Matthew very well intended that the audience would understand the story as meaning that Mary was impregnated by an angel/holy Spirit but accepting a presented literary structure is not the only goal of the author — I would contend that Matthew would rather have wanted his audience to receive what he meant by the inclusion of this story. An example I used in discussing this with a friend via phone was Virgil reading his poem about the ascendency of Rome and Augustus to the Emperor Augustus who knew very well many of the events enshrined did not occur as written and more than likely, if reception history is the judge, understood the intended allegory.

Anyway, here is my 2.5 shekels.

December 11th, 2012

Why Jim West is not Allowed in Hell

Jim West in Hell

 

December 4th, 2012

Dear @drjewest – Sir, you are evil #bieber

So, earlier today, Jim tweeted several twits about me and Bieber… Guess what…

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Jim, I will get you.

November 26th, 2012

BREAKING NEWS: Jim West is an Ivory Tower Maximalist

I kid you not. David Hindley (I dunno) got mad because Jim brought to the attention just how cheap some email programs are… so instead of discussing real things, he wanted to discuss spam. Jim didn’t, so he quit. See, I know this because Dave when out and blabbed.

But, to show just how deluded this guy is… he thinks Jim West is an ivory tower maximalist.

 

 

November 2nd, 2012

Sighted – Jim West at the Mall (@Drjewest)

I’m not going to tell you who sent this over, but if you had to guess, it should be Jeremy Thompson

Bieber-Fever

October 18th, 2012

Hey Jim, Guess what – Steve Jobs did not go to hell, just heaven 1.0

Cohen told the magazine that Jobs is “not in hell,” though “he’s had to do a lot reviewing of his life. Right now he knows the lesson he has to learn, but he hasn’t learned it yet.”

She also said that Jobs has “guides” in the afterlife that are trying to teach him that “survival of the fittest is a made up thing,” and that he needed to be more concerned for the wellbeing of others.

via Psychic: Steve Jobs Not Having A Pleasant Afterlife « CBS Seattle.

Jim West pronounced Steve Jobs as a hellbound sinner.

Well, I’ve got news for him – an honest to goodness psychic talks to Jobs daily as he reformats Heaven. As you know, you never buy a first generation Apple product, so I guess Steve has decided not to take a first glance heaven or something.

Anyway… Jim’s wrong… na na na boo boo

HT – AL via FB