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February 1st, 2012

Indiana soon to be allowed to teach Scientology’s origin theories…. and Islam

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The Indiana Senate has approved a bill to allow the state’s public schools to teach creationism in science classes as long as they include origin of life theories from multiple religions.

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The bill permits local school boards to offer classes that include origin theories from religions including Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism and Scientology.

via Indiana Senate Approves Bill To Teach Creationism Alongside Evolution In Public Schools | Fox News.

Well, turn about is fair play, I guess….

This is too sad to be too funny….

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February 3rd, 2009

Hindu Taliban: Hindu extremists target Valentine's Day in India

NEW DELHI (AFP) – Indian Hindu extremists who recently dragged young women out of a fashionable bar as part of a morality campaign have vowed to assault couples marking Valentine’s Day, according to reports Tuesday.

Sri Ram Sena (Lord Ram’s Army) activists stormed the “Amnesia” bar in the southern city of Mangalore late last month and assaulted female customers whom they accused of behaving obscenely.

Now the group has turned its wrath on romantics who plan to celebrate Valentine’s Day on February 14, saying the occasion encourages anti-Indian behaviour and sexual misdemeanours.

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December 1st, 2008

India’s unspoken terrorism

From the Jesus Blog… He has the videos as well.

The headlines have been dominated by this week’s Mumbai terror attacks by a Islamist group protesting about the situation in Kashmir.  However, nothing is ever said about the terror attacks that take place daily in India by Hindus persecuting and killing Christian’s, forcing them to convert – or die.

I think that the media need to talk about this issue, and while the spotlight is on India these crimes against humanity should not go unnoticed.

Muslims are getting bad press daily for the things they are doing, but no one is talking about the Christian’s that are being murdered by Hindu extremists.  It is saddening.

Christian Martyrs Day – August 25th

A group of Indian Christians are calling for August 25th to be a Christian Martyrs Day in recognition of the hundreds of Christians suffering in India at the hands of Hindus.

via India’s unspoken terrorism « The Jesus Blog

October 9th, 2008

Holy war strikes in India: 35 Christians killed and 50,000 forced from their homes

Let us remember these in our prayers,

via Holy war strikes in India: 35 Christians killed and 50,000 forced from their homes – World news, News – Belfasttelegraph.co.uk.

By Andrew Buncombe in Phulbani, Orissa
Thursday, 9 October 2008

As she recalled her awful story, Puspanjali Panda made no attempt to halt the tears flooding down her face.

Holding her daughter close, she told how a baying Hindu mob dragged her husband – a Christian pastor – from his bed, beat him to death with stones and iron rods and then threw him into a river.

She found his corpse two days later, washed up on the bank. When she went to the police, they told her to go away.

Mrs Panda and thousands of others like her are victims of the worst communal violence between Hindus and Christians that India has seen for decades.

For a country that boasts of its mutual religious tolerance, the long-simmering tension that has erupted in the Kandhamal district of the state of Orissa – a nun being raped, churches being burned, at least 35 people killed and thousands forced from their villages – is both a belated wake-up call and a mounting embarrassment.

The Prime Minister, Manmohan Singh, called it a “national disgrace”.

But for Mrs Panda, sheltering in a wretched relief camp in the state capital, Bhubaneswar, it is much worse than that. The 38-year-old said she had no idea what would now happen to her and her bewildered-looking child, Mona Lisa. “I do not want to go back. They have destroyed my home,” she wailed.

The journey to the heart of the violence follows a bone-shaking road east from Bhubaneswar to the district capital, Phulbani. It was here in late August that thousands of Hindus armed with swords, sticks and primitive guns began taking matters into their own hands after the murder of an elderly religious leader, Swami Laxmanananda Saraswati.

The swami, a senior member of a right-wing Hindu organisation known as the Vishswa Hindu Parishad (VHP), had reportedly been working to prevent low-caste Hindus converting to Christianity.

His followers claimed he had been murdered by local Christians, though police said there was no evidence of that. Either way, in the days that followed, groups of Hindus wrought a terrible revenge on Christian families whom they had lived alongside for decades. In addition to the deaths, 140 churches and prayer halls were attacked and up to 50,000 people forced to flee. In instances the violence appears staggering in its cruelty.

Rabindranath Pradhan, now a refugee, had to watch helplessly while a 300-strong mob doused his disabled brother with petrol and set him alight. “He was shouting ‘Help me, Help me.’ I could not help – there were so many of them,” he said.

Local people are now forced to fly saffron-coloured flags outside their homes to identity themselves as Hindus and prevent attack. In the village of Pabinga a Catholic church lies in ruins, the cross pushed from the roof and the interior of the building badly damaged. Christian leaders say that families forced to flee have been told they can only return if they re-convert to Hinduism.

Raphael Cheenath, the Archbishop of Cuttack and Bhubaneswar, traced the violence to the anger of upper-caste Hindus at the number of Dalits or so-called untouchables converting to Christianity. Previously, he said, the lower castes had lived the lives of slaves and now – liberated and better-educated – they represented a challenge. “It incites the upper castes,” he said.

While conversion has been an issue, the conflict here is more complex than a religious disagreement. Many activists believe the fight is an economic dispute between two of India’s poorest groups, complicated by the issue of caste and ethnicity.

For decades there has been conflict over land and resources between the two groups at the bottom of India’s complex social system – the indigenous people of the region officially listed as scheduled tribes (ST) and non-indigenous poor known as scheduled castes (SC).

While the ST are Hindu, increasing numbers of SC have converted to Christianity to escape the misery of the caste system, for perceived economic benefit and because of the efforts of missionaries. Many politicians have accused right-wing Hindu groups of agitating tension for political reasons.

Somewhat surprisingly given the number of churches that have been destroyed, the ST of Kandhamal also say their conflict with the SC communities is not a religious dispute. They too say the battle is over land and resources.

Lambahdhar Kanhari, a tribal leader, says he has received death-threats from Christians. At his house near Phulbani a guard with a pump-action shotgun stands outside. Mr Kanhari did not deny that tribal people were responsible for the flurry of attacks but said that while the recent violence had been triggered by the killing of Swami Saraswati, its roots went back decades. “These SC came from outside the area.

They are criminal by nature. They have taken our land, our crops, everything,” he said. “When the Swami was killed by the Christians some of his followers went after the killers and some of our people have been involved in the fighting.”

The authorities say 11 relief camps have been set up to help more than 23,000 people. The Indian government has belatedly dispatched hundreds of police and paramilitaries to Kandhamal to calm the situation. In Phulbani, there is now a 6pm-8am curfew.

On a recent evening, the curfew had just been called as Asis Mishra was chaining shut the gate in front of his home. One of a tiny number of Christians in Phulbani still daring to live in their homes, Mr Mishra had good reason to take special safety precautions.

During the worst of the violence his family had fled their home and lived in a guesthouse, provided with food and money by Hindu families. Mr Mishra explained that he was not a recent convert, his family having been Christians for five generations. He said he hoped the fact he was well known within the community would protect him. He tapped on his chest and said: “We have been here a long time, but there is still some fear… It is always here.”

Religious intolerance: The flashpoint state

* Orissa, on the Bay of Bengal, is India’s ninth-largest state. It is less densely populated than its coastal neighbours but it is still home to 36 million people.

* Hindus make up 94 per cent of the population; 2 per cent are Christians. Tensions mounted in 1999, when an Australian missionary and his sons were burnt alive by a Hindu mob.

* The state has one-fifth of India’s coal reserves and a third of its bauxite, but many people live in chronic poverty.

September 17th, 2008

Cleric Francis Macnab – Out with the old (Faith) in with the new (humanism)

Note that this cleric is a minister-for-life. And why a minister? When did he loose his faith? Perhaps if he would have had the correct ‘dogma’…

Melbourne minister Cleric Francis Macnab launches new faith for the 21st century because the old one is ‘unbelievable’.

“THE TEN Commandments, one of the most negative documents ever written.” With that provocative claim posted high over two city streets, controversial cleric Francis Macnab yesterday launched “a new faith for the 21st century”, a faith beyond orthodox Christianity.

- Jesus ‘just a Jewish peasant’
- Cleric launches new faith
- Ten Commandments ‘too negative’

Dr Macnab says Abraham is probably a concoction, Moses was a mass murderer and Jesus Christ just a Jewish peasant who certainly was not God. In fact, there is no God, in the usual sense of an interventionist deity – what we strive for is a presence both within and beyond us.

Dr Macnab, a noted psychotherapist and executive minister at St Michael’s Uniting Church in the city, said the new faith was necessary because the old faith no longer worked.

“The old faith is in large sections unbelievable. We want to make the new faith more believable, realistic and helpful in terms of the way people live,” he said.

St Michael’s is promoting the new faith with a $120,000 campaign over several months, involving newspaper and radio advertising, the internet, banners and billboards. Dr Macnab is being advised by Barry Whalen, who was the media guru for Cardinal George Pell when he was Catholic Archbishop of Melbourne.

According to Dr Macnab, the new faith transcends denominations and religions. It is about searching, not dogma. It seeks the good, the tender and the beautiful, and finds it in Islam, Buddhism and Hinduism, Christianity and Judaism.

“At the Jesus Seminar (a scholarly but sceptical international enterprise examining the statements attributed to Jesus, of which Dr Macnab is a member), we are inclined to think there was a real Jesus but we don’t know much about him. The record has been embellished a great deal along the way. He gives glimpses of something beyond him, and that’s the most powerful aspect of what he was doing.”

Dr Macnab said the Ten Commandments were full of what people could not do, and were given by a patriarchal figure, Moses, who was a mass murderer. The Bible records that Moses killed 3000 Israelites who worshipped the Golden Calf.

“Allegedly he went up the mountain and came down and said “you shall not kill’, so how come he was such a genocidal man?” Dr Macnab said.

Until 1900, people believed in heaven above, earth, and hell below. “We have given up that idea. He’s no longer the God up there, an interventionist God. We can all feel a presence beyond ourselves and are trying to get in touch with the presence better than ourselves. It’s trying to bring a more humanitarian understanding.”

Dr Macnab has been at St Michael’s, where he is minister for life, since 1971. He did not seek wider approval for the campaign, and said some in the Uniting Church would resent it, but some would agree.

September 16th, 2008

Extremists Launch Attacks Against Christians in Second Indian State

Extremists Launch Attacks Against Christians in Second Indian State – Christian Newswire.

CARROLLTON, Texas, September 15 /Christian Newswire/ — “India is in a scary situation,” says Gospel for Asia President K.P. Yohannan. “While violence continues in Orissa, on India’s east coast, anti-Christian extremists have unleashed another wave of attacks on Christians in Karnataka, a state on India’s west coast.

“At the same time, churches are under attack in Jharkhand and other states, and Muslim extremists have set off bombs in Delhi.

“But we know that, in the end, the future is bright, because Jesus is with His church.”

On Sunday, Hindu mobs rushed into churches and prayer centers of many different denominations in Karnataka, attacking Christians during their times of worship. The extremists then destroyed the church buildings and their properties. At least 11 churches were destroyed, including at least one led by Gospel for Asia missionaries.

Christians responded with protest rallies, and more than 60 extremists have been detained by authorities as a result of Sunday’s attacks.

“What we saw in Orissa was a well thought-out and detailed agenda to eradicate Christians from the state,” said Dr. Yohannan. “As you can see, the same pattern is being followed in Karnataka. It is well planned and orchestrated by Hindu radicals.”

A GFA missionary in Karnataka reports that his church was set on fire, even though two police officers were guarding it. The officers discovered the fire and were able to call for help. The fire was put out before causing significant damage to the church.

Another GFA missionary reported that a mob of extremists crashed into his church around noon Sunday, smashing windows, lights and musical instruments. The mob also destroyed bicycles belonging to church members and the missionary. The missionary filed a police complaint about the attack.

Several similar attacks were reported throughout Karnataka on Sunday, and extremists also made terrorism threats against churches there.

They threatened a congregation that had a new building, which was just dedicated the previous Sunday. Services were conducted there Sunday under police protection.

The weekend violence was not limited to Karnataka. In the state of Jharkhand, militants surrounded a home where a GFA missionary was leading a worship service. When the service was over the militants rounded up the pastor and some of the believers and dragged them to a Hindu temple in a nearby forest.

The militants beat the Christians and demanded money, which they said was necessary to perform the “re-conversion” rituals that would make them Hindus. They tormented the believers for more than four hours before police broke up the standoff. The militants and the Christians were called to the police station Monday and the police asked them to work out a compromise. Church leaders are working with the Jharkhand government to prevent any more attacks.

In Karnataka, a mish-mash of laws affect what constitutes legal assembly for Christians. All places of worship must be registered with the state, and while it is not written into law, police consider it “illegal” for congregations to meet in homes or rented spaces, such as community centers. As a result, many congregations meeting in rented facilities are being shut down under this unwritten “law.”

Karnataka also has an anti-conversion law. This law was passed under the guise of “protecting” poor and low-caste people from what the Hindu radicals call “forcible conversions.” The extremists falsely charge that Christian missionaries offer inducements, such as money or jobs, to the poor who convert to Christianity. Such false accusations are then used to incite violence against the Christians.

The Hindu radicals are also highly critical of non-Indian missionaries, as well as any Christian groups that receive funds from countries outside of India, especially the United States.

Most of the violence against Christians in India is being fueled by Hindu political groups who hold to a philosophy known as Hindutva.

Hindutva is a word derived from two terms, “Hindu” and “Tattya,” which literally means “Hindu Principals.” The term was coined in the 1920s by an Indian philosopher, but is now most often used in the political context of promoting Hindu nationalism.

The VHP (World Hindu Council), who used the assassination of one of its most strident anti-Christian leaders as an excuse for the latest round of violence in Orissa, is committed to the Hindutva principal that “to be Indian is to be Hindu.” They promote the concept of India becoming a totally Hindu nation and driving out Christianity and Islam.

Karnataka’s top elected officials belong to political parties that are known to promote Hindutva.

“These people do not represent the majority of Hindus, or of the Indian people at large,” Dr. Yohannan said. “This violence is led by a small group of fanatics who are bringing a bad name to India. We must pray for the people of India, and for their leaders, that peace will return to this land.”

Gospel for Asia is an evangelical mission organization based in Carrollton involved in sharing the love of Jesus across South Asia.

September 11th, 2008

Holy Hate

Winston-Salem Chronicle – Holy Hate.

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September 9th, 2008

Hindus in Orissa Mayhem Help Protect Christians

Hindus in Orissa Mayhem Help Protect Christians.

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September 7th, 2008

Christians compelled to attack their own churches

Christians compelled to attack their own churches | Spero News.

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August 30th, 2008

Former New York Times reporter looks at growth of interfaith movements

Unlike many Fundamentalists, I don’t dismiss Interfaith dialogue quickly, as I have seen the fruits of Interfaith assistance on certain issues, however, many of these Interfaith groups readily dismiss any idea of a separation of doctrine, insisting that true tolerance is to acknowledge that everyone is equally correct. Therefore, Muslim and Christian are equal religions, as is Hinduism, Buddhism, and Atheism – all leading to the same path. This is wholly (or unholy) false. If this is true, then Christ suffered and died for naught.

Former New York Times reporter looks at growth of interfaith movements – Los Angeles Times.

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August 28th, 2008

India’s Christian Bodies Demand End to Orissa Violence

India’s Christian Bodies Demand End to Orissa Violence| Christianpost.com.

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