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July 30th, 2011

Roger E. Olson on the “minor heresy” of universalism

I think universalism is a minor heresy SO LONG AS it does not interfere with evangelism. (See my earlier post here about why universalism should NOT interfere with evangelism.) I also evaluate the seriousness of universalism by its context–viz., why does the person affirm it? If universalism is evidence of a denial of God’s wrath and/or human sinfulness, then it is much more serious. Barth’s universalism (yes, I believe Karl Barth was a universalist and I’ll post a message here about why later) did not arise out of those denials which is why he didn’t like the appellation “universalist.” The term is usually associated with liberal theology. In that case, as part of an overall liberal/modernist theology, I consider it very serious indeed.

How serious a heresy is universalism? | Roger E. Olson.

I’m against universalism. Universalism is, in my opinion, if there is such a thing as heresy, is the very definition of the word. Why? Because in universalism which teaches that all will be saved, the point of teaching, growing, and reaching people – the very point of the Cross becomes muted to a dangerously low level, empowering the myth that all religions, like all people, are created equal.

I cannot call it a minor heresy, really, because it, in my opinion, dismisses the Cross of Christ and forces God into an action which He has no control over.

But, I recommend the article.

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July 1st, 2010

Alister McGrath: ‘Heresy’

I recently picked up a copy of Alister McGrath’s Heresy: A History of Defending the Truth. Alister McGrath is, hands down, one of my favorite theologians…I would love to head over to England and study under him at King’s College.  But, seeing as how that isn’t going to happen anytime soon…I’ll have to settle for reading his books.

The one thing that struck me as odd. was the choice of Rick Warren to write the Foreword.  For the life of me, I can’t figure that one out.

Anyways, I’m pretty excited about reading this one.  Look for my review in the coming days.

May 22nd, 2010

What To Do With Romans?

Apparently we are to burn it.

File this under “Internet Cracks”…or “Very, Very Bad Hermeneutics”.

I couldn’t make this stuff up if I tried.  “Pastor” Harry Walther of The Church of Philadelphia-Internet believes the Paul’s Letter to the Romans should be “torn from the Bible and burned.

I am not sure if Paul actually wrote the Book of Romans as we read it today, if someone changed his writing or if the entire Book of Romans is a forgery?  What I do know is this New Testament book is demonic, wrong and a source of confusion, doubt and evil to all who read it.

As Christians study the Bible, they read The Gospels and in general it makes sense to them.  They they come upon the Book of Romans and everything goes wrong.  much of what The Book of Romans says contradicts much of what JESUS taught and we are left with confusion and chaos, WHICH ARE WE SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE, JESUS or Romans?

The Book of Romans even contradicts much of what Paul wrote in his letters to the Corinthians, Thessolonians, Galatians, Collosians, and Ephesians.

Now, I’m not sure where this guy studied hermeneutics…but…wow…just wow!

First off, Romans is a letter…but that’s just me being nit-picky.  Also, it’s Thessalonians…with an and Colossians…one l, two s’s.  But that’s not the disturbing stuff.  The fact that this “pastor” wants us to tear out Romans from our Bibles should automatically raise up a red flag.

From what does Walther base his conclusion one?

Examples: Chapter Nine of Romans, wrongly denies Free Will, Chapter 10 distorts Salvation into a false belief system and chapter 13 Justifies wicked rulers as infallible, “ministers of God”.

What follows is an example of very, very bad hermeneutics.  And what’s really disturbing is there are people out there that believe this nut.  An acquaintance of mine said she was involved in a discussion of Facebook about this very topic…and the individual she was talking to bought this nonsense hook, line, and sinker.  Walther is promoting a very dangerous and heretical hermeneutic…and doing so to the damnation of others.

You can check out the rest of Walther’s site, satansrapture.com (The name alone should send up more red flags.)

Being Lutheran, I couldn’t help myself from commenting on this site.  Walther states,

Baptists, Evangelicals and Lutherans say that Romans has a “perfect flow and harmony” with The Gospels, but it is clear they are living in a delusionary fairy tale and are not honest with themselves, with their faith and their study of The Bible.

It’s hard to take this guy seriously…with all the spelling and grammar mistakes on the site.  But people do.  It’s a dangerous game they are playing.  This is a modern day heresy that needs to be fought.  The nonsense spouted off by this “pastor” is leading people away from Christ, not to Him.

May 12th, 2010

Glenn Beck: Prophet?

I was driving this morning and listened to the last 20 minutes or so of Glenn Beck’s show. What I heard was stunning.

What I heard leaves me wondering, how can Christians support this guy?

I’d seriously like an answer to that question. I say that, knowing that several of my friends are fans of Glenn Beck’s program.

He claimed that the other day he suddenly said that we should expect great and mighty miracles in the near future. He started to say that he didn’t know where that came from, but then he realized that he did. God had given him that message.

Glenn Beck is claiming to be a prophet.

He is claiming that God is sending words through him to be given to the body of believers.

Seriously, Christians, isn’t enough enough?

I can believe, of course, that God uses prophets. That’s easy. I have no reason to doubt that He would and does.

What I do doubt is that He would use a prophet for some political purpose in the US while ignoring the vessel’s gross theological problems. Beck is, after all, a Mormon. Every single Evangelical fan of Glenn Beck should take some pause in this. Do you really believe that God is speaking through a person who believes that God lives on a planet orbiting Kolob with his wives?

Moreover, why is God using this prophet to deliver a message so thoroughly world-focused as Beck’s is? He doesn’t care what religion you follow as long as you’re a good American?

Really? Do you suppose that God really cares more about the Constitution than the state of people’s souls?

I’d love to hear how Christians can possibly defend this guy. If you dismiss that part of what he says, why listen to any of it?

It’s long since time for Christians to have a serious conversation about Glenn Beck and the influence he’s being given over what Christians are saying and thinking.

May 11th, 2010

Tea Party Jesus

Before I say anything else … LANGUAGE WARNING.

The site to which I’m about to link uses a lot of very vile language. Profane. Sick.

“Tea Party Jesus” bills itself as “The words of Christians in the mouth of Christ.” I know very little about the creator of the site, but I suspect that s/he’s out to mock Christ and Christianity. However, it’s a deeply convicting site.

When we, as Christians, speak, we are speaking for Christ. In a very real way, we put our words in His mouth every time we open our mouths. What do unbelievers hear?

What, therefore, do they hear Jesus saying?

Can you picture Jesus wearing an “America is Full” t-shirt as Rep. Tom Tancredo does, with support from Christian voters? Can you imagine Him highlighting vulnerable Democratic candidates with gunsights, as Gov. Sarah Palin did on her site? Referring to “Turd World Countries” as Michael Savage does? (By the way, those are my examples … I didn’t see any of those on TPJ)

That’s the premise of Tea Party Jesus … taking flagrantly un-Christian statements and putting them in bubbles above images of Jesus.

The site is pretty gross … but what’s worse is that Christians, or at least politicians enjoying support from Christians, said them. If we don’t call them out, then who will?

And what is our witness to the world?

Click at your own risk, if you feel like you must.

Here.

Oh, yeah … hat tip to The Thinklings.

March 8th, 2010

Trash: The Christ of Arminianism

I something float by on Facebook and it made me sick. Built only on man’s thoughts, it attacks Christ – not the Christ of Arminianism, but Jesus Christ Himself. A Calvnist blogger I admire, Brian LePort, wrote last week:

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March 3rd, 2010

Vincent of Lerins – Why the Church decides the Interpretation of Scripture

I was first made familiar of Vincent of Lerins through the use of the Orthodox Study Bible, finding him to be no less abrasive today that he was 1600 years ago.Perhaps that is one of the reasons he is rarely used today – he focused on orthodoxy. In reading though my old thoughts on the subject, I have found myself attempting to measure up to his abrasiveness.

The quote that the editors use is this:

I cannot sufficiently wonder at the madness of certain men, at the impiety of their blinded understanding, at their lust of error, such that, not content with the rule of faith delivers once for all, and received from the times of old, they are very day seeking one novelty after another, and are constantly longing to add, change, and take away, in religion.

They use that to comment on the verse where Solomon tells us not to remove what that king termed the ancient landmark (Proverbs 22.28). The following is a selected passage from Lerins’ Commonitory. It is a good read for those who enjoy what might best be described as heavy metal doctrinal inerrancy.

[4.] I have often then inquired earnestly and attentively of very many men eminent for sanctity and learning, how and by what sure and so to speak universal rule I may be able to distinguish the truth of Catholic faith from the falsehood of heretical pravity; and I have always, and in almost every instance, received an answer to this effect: That whether I or any one else should wish to detect the frauds and avoid the snares of heretics as they rise, and to continue sound and complete in the Catholic faith, we must, the Lord helping, fortify our own belief in two ways; first, by the authority of the Divine Law, and then, by the Tradition of the Catholic Church.

While I might not completely believe in his outcome, Lerins is correct, that in order too prevent ‘heretical pravity’ from entering into the flock, we must first fortify ourselves with the Word of God, supremely, and then with the Tradition handed down through the Church.  Of course, this Tradition must not be unchallenged, and should be examine biblically and historically. There is a good range of difference between the right doctrine and the allowance of a cultural, or communal, practice of a local congregation – I believe that Vincent is only talking about the former. The Tradition of interpretation is handed down, and measured by those and with those that stand immediately before us. Our approach may be different, our tools new, but the result should be the same, right? isn’t it always the Word of God that comes first, followed only then by Tradition?

[5.] But here some one perhaps will ask, Since the canon of Scripture is complete, and sufficient of itself for everything, and more than sufficient, what need is there to join with it the authority of the Church’s interpretation? For this reason,—because, owing to the depth of Holy Scripture, all do not accept it in one and the same sense, but one understands its words in one way, another in another; so that it seems to be capable of as many interpretations as there are interpreters. For Novatian expounds it one way, Sabellius another, Donatus another, Arius, Eunomius, Macedonius, another, Photinus, Apollinaris, Priscillian, another, Iovinian, Pelagius, Celestius, another, lastly, Nestorius another. Therefore, it is very necessary, on account of so great intricacies of such various error, that the rule for the right understanding of the prophets and apostles should be framed in accordance with the standard of Ecclesiastical and Catholic interpretation.

I wonder if Vincent doesn’t anticipate a common habit Protestantism, one in which everyone is allowed to interpret Scripture based only on his or her subjective reasonings. This has given the world many denominations, sects, splits and cults, as well as produced a fair number of atheists who cannot reconcile the Bible and the ‘inconsistencies’ found therein not because of the biblical texts, but because of their own traditional interpretation. This is why, starting with the very Word of God, the Church must have an interpretation that is universal, but mindful of human failure, on the points of Doctrine. I find myself in agreement with Vincent, that due to the great heresies that have arisen because of people failing to understand the depth of the Word of God, the very Word of God must be framed in interpretation by the Church who foundation is the Apostles and Prophets, with Jesus Christ being the chief cornerstone. It matters then to what Church is that true Church, doesn’t it?

[64.] Here, possibly, some one may ask, Do heretics also appeal to Scripture? They do indeed, and with a vengeance; for you may see them scamper through every single book of Holy Scripture,—through the books of Moses, the books of Kings, the Psalms, the Epistles, the Gospels, the Prophets. Whether among their own people, or among strangers, in private or in public, in speaking or in writing, at convivial meetings, or in the streets, hardly ever do they bring forward anything of their own which they do not endeavour to shelter under words of Scripture. Read the works of Paul of Samosata, of Priscillian, of Eunomius, of Jovinian, and the rest of those pests, and you will see an infinite heap of instances, hardly a single page, which does not bristle with plausible quotations from the New Testament or the Old.

Vincent faced the same problem then that many face today – too many people quote from something that they do not understand, often times in their own unique cultural context acting in a way which seems like the bible had been written by their neighbor, in order to persuade one or another to a different position, as if by the mere power of quotation (or memorization) an argument can be settled. Sometimes this is an accident of their tradition, but many times, this is purposed.  Many will point to this Jesus of Nazareth as the Christ, but only to supplant the true and holy Faith with a false doctrine. They will use the books of the bible, as many has shown themselves capable of doing, and use great swelling words to convince their listeners that they are the leaders of the right way. This is not a new phenomenon, and nor should we expect to stamp it out. While Vincent was railing against those who do such things, we in the West known uphold Religious Pluralism.

[65.] But the more secretly they conceal themselves under shelter of the Divine Law, so much the more are they to be feared and guarded against. For they know that the evil stench of their doctrine will hardly find acceptance with any one if it be exhaled pure and simple. They sprinkle it over, therefore, with the perfume of heavenly language, in order that one who would be ready to despise human error, may hesitate to condemn divine words. They do, in fact, what nurses do when they would prepare some bitter draught for children; they smear the edge of the cup all round with honey, that the unsuspecting child, having first tasted the sweet, may have no fear of the bitter. So too do these act, who disguise poisonous herbs and noxious juices under the names of medicines, so that no one almost, when he reads the label, suspects the poison. (Vincent of Lérins, The Commonitory)

There is little to add to Vincent, as his colorful language and exact imagery of false prophets detail what is going on in the world today. These false prophets soothe the ears of the listeners with promises of miracles or prosperity, drawing the attention away from God. They have forsaken the doctrine, if they ever knew of it in the first place, to dwell among those that would edify their own destructive measures. They use the language of the heavenly Word as medicine, infusing it with poison all the while beguiling those whose heart seek God. They lead these people away, and it is owed to the fact that too many times people are told that ‘to each his own’ when it comes to biblical interpretation.

Stand and measure yourself against the Old, as there is nothing ‘new’. The Faith of the Church is the faith once and for all delivered. There is no ‘new’ word, no ‘now’ word. There is but the very Word of God.

I have to wonder how Vincent would have fared in today’s Christianity. Where would he have stood in biblical studies, textual and the various other criticisms, the numerous hermeneutics, interpretations, and the advent of modern technology which has diluted the authority of ‘the Church’ over ‘Christendom.’

March 2nd, 2010

Ignatius of Antioch on the Building of God

Nevertheless, I have heard of some who have passed on from this to you, having false doctrine, whom ye did not suffer to sow among you, but stopped your ears, that ye might not receive those things which were sown by them, as being stones4 of the temple of the Father, prepared for the building of God the Father, and drawn up on high by the instrument of Jesus Christ, which is the cross,5 making use of the Holy Spirit as a rope, while your faith was the means by which you ascended, and your love the way which led up to God. Ye, therefore, as well as all your fellow-travellers, are God-bearers, temple-bearers, Christ-bearers, bearers of holiness, adorned in all respects with the commandments of Jesus Christ, in whom also I exult that I have been thought worthy, by means of this Epistle, to converse and rejoice with you, because with respect to your Christian life6 ye love nothing but God only. – Ephesians 9

February 9th, 2010

Heresy and Salvation – Join the Conversation

I saw this post this past week, found myself in general agreement and moved on:

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October 30th, 2009

Ghosts of Ancient Heresies – The Arianist Catholic Church

I mean, I though the Jehovah’s Witnesses had a corner on this -

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October 9th, 2009

Friday’s Question of the Day: What Makes Someone a Heretic?

It’s not so much tossed around as it once were, but tell me, what makes someone a heretic of the faith?