Holy Mary… The Vatican takes a stance on Public Gun Safety

The Vatican’s chief spokesman the Rev. Federico Lombardi, said Saturday that 47 religious leaders have appealed to members of the U.S. Congress “to limit firearms that are making society pay an unacceptable price in terms of massacres and senseless deaths.”

“I am with them,” Lombardi said, in an editorial carried on Vatican Radio, lining up the Vatican’s moral support in favor of firearm limits.

`’The initiatives announced by the American administration for limiting and controlling the spread and use of weapons are certainly a step in the right direction,” Lombardi said.

via Vatican Welcomes Obama Gun Control Proposal.

Wow…

What Hitler really said… the same thing the Founders said…

Saw this on Facebook…

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Of course, he never actually said that…

So, this is what Hitler actually said:

The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subject races to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subject races to carry arms have prepared their fall by doing so.

As know, Hitler had gun control only for the subject races. He actually loosened gun laws for Germans. But, then again, who cares about facts when anyone can make up an anti-Obama quote and give it to Hitler.

But, this brings to mind a recent article about the Founders.

“In this state,” he said, “there are two hundred and thirty-six thousand blacks, and there are many in several other states. But there are few or none in the Northern States. . . . May Congress not say, that every black man must fight? Did we not see a little of this last war? We were not so hard pushed as to make emancipation general; but acts of Assembly passed that every slave who would go to the army should be free.”

There a lot of quotes going around from the Founders about gun control, but rarely are contexts applied. Mason, who seems to favor individual guns for the defense against a tyrannical threat, in better context, is shown for what he was actually saying. Oddly enough, gun control again became an issue in the 1960’s when the Civil Rights movement was reaching a zenith. Why? Because suddenly white guys realizes that black guys could get guns.

So, please, continue to post anti-Obama memes involving Hitler… But when History is known, the many of the Founders were more closely aligned with Hitler on the race issue, and thus arming the “subject races” than you really want to know.

Early State Constitutions and the Right to Bear Arms for what reason?

Virginia Constitution of 1776 – SEC. 13.

That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defence of a free State; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided, as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

North Carolina Constitution of 1776 – 17.

That the people have a right to bear arms, for the defense of the State; and as standing armies, in time of peace, are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be kept up; and that the military should be kept under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.

Massachusetts Constitution of 1780 – Art. XVII.

The people have a right to keep and to bear arms for the common defence. And as, in time of peace, armies are dangerous to liberty, they ought not to be maintained without the consent of the legislature; and the military power shall always be held in an exact subordination to the civil authority and be governed by it.

There is ample evidence that Thomas Jefferson drafted both the Virginia and the North Carolina (if passively the latter). Modern state constitutions and what they say can be found here. Also, here, but this link’s creators has a certain ability to miss the intended target, if you will pardon my pun.

What can we gain here? First, the earliest States, writing their constitutions in a time of war (an act of rebellion against a king based on a lot of propaganda) thought their citizens well enough armed to insure against foreign invasion by an enemy. The defense of the State (whatever State one would call home) was first and foremost important. Why? Because every (white) landowner was a citizen of the State and as such, had responsibilities to the State, such as being in the service of the State up to and including the final full measure of a person’s loyalty.

Yet, we find traitorous speech, talk of treason, today bantered about as if there was no State, no call to defend that State against foreign invasions.

How odd that people remain ignorant of the original intentions of the right to bear arms and yet seem ready to start a real civil war to defend their fantasy.

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John Adams on the Second Amendment

To suppose arms in the hands of citizens, to be used at individual discretion, except in private self-defense, or by partial orders of towns, countries or districts of a state, is to demolish every constitution, and lay the laws prostrate, so that liberty can be enjoyed by no man; it is a dissolution of the government. The fundamental law of the militia is, that it be created, directed and commanded by the laws, and ever for the support of the laws. – A Defence of the Constitutions of the United States 3:475 (1787-1788).

Oh snap….

Who is Nathaniel T. Jackson? What did he do to deserve this honor?

Nathaniel T. Jackson is a record holder this year in Chicago. Not for selling the most fund raising items for cancer, or for helping the homeless or for overcoming his gang ties while being out on parole for a robbery. He didn’t win any election or race to speak of. It is possible that some of us may have at one time or other other passed by him while we were in Chicago at SBL. No doubt, when we did, we were pretty darn scared.

What record does he hold?

He is the 500th gun murder in Chicago this year.

Congratulations, Mr. Jackson.

I am glad that this sort of gun violence does not happen in my country

Surely this must be Syria or Iraq…

In 2010, nearly 700 Chicago school children were shot and 66 of them died. Last year, Mayor Rahm Emanuel attended a memorial for 260 school children who had been killed in just the previous three years. On several occasions in the past year, tens of people have been shot in a single weekend on the streets of the city. The worst three-day stretch saw 10 killed and 37 wounded in gun fire. But Google the term “Chicago weekend shootings” and the results are far too many deadly weekends to count.

via 260 School Children Killed in Chicago in 3 Years — Where Are the Tears for Them? | Alternet.

 

Chicago is worse than Afghanistan in gun deaths

January-to-June murders here were 58 percent higher than the number of US troops killed in Afghanistan during the same period.

via In Chicago, heat and homicide stoke fear and frustration – CSMonitor.com.

Good for Afghanistan, but Chicago is not a failed State… So, um…

Police: Pa. pastor shoots son during fight

Awful:

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I’m all for gun rights and protection, but…

Well, my goodness….

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Pistol-Packing Pastor Quits to Work for Gun Rights, Protecting Churches

Is it really that big of a problem?

A pistol-packing pastor who drew national attention earlier this year for hosting a “God-and-Guns” event at his church is stepping down from the pulpit to serve his flock with a new mission.

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