I rescued this book from the trash yesterday, ‘The Faith of George W. Bush”. Never knew that George W. Bush had the gift of prophecy. Or so this book from 2003 reckons …
I feel like God wants me to run for president. I can’t explain it, but I sense my country is going to need me. Something is going to happen, and, at that time, my country is going to need me. I know it won’t be easy, on me or my family, but God wants me to do it. In fact, I really don’t want to run. My father was president. My whole family has been affected by it. I know the price. I know what it will mean. I would be perfectly happy to have people point at me someday when I’m buying my fishing lures at Wal-Mart and say, ‘That was our governor’. That’s all I want. And if I run for president, that kind of life will be over. My life will never be the same. But I feel God wants me to do this, and I must do it. (Page 109).
George W. Bush, the then Governor of Texas, to tele-evangelist James Robison, in Bush’s office. 1999.
Because, dang it, nothing saying America like killin’.
But, I digress (and I have to wonder if killing the man who ordered the deaths of thousands upon thousands is really justice)… Brody goes on to say,
I know President Obama understands that getting Bin Laden doesn’t mean an end to the war on terrorism but how about a smile? How about showing a little joy? How about a word or two saying something about how this is no doubt a happy or joyous occasion for Americans? We got nothing like that at all. Instead, we got Mr. Monotone. Mr. Bars and Tone. Mr. Non-Emotion. President Obama missed an opportunity to connect with Americans last night.
So why did he announce the big news like he was reading the dictionary? You know the answer. It’s because his speech wasn’t so much aimed at Americans. He was being careful of how the “Arab Street” would interpret his remarks. Any hint of gloating or happiness might be rubbing it in the face of some of the crazies in the Arab World and heaven forbid we get them upset! How dare we Americans look like we’re celebrating his death! The travesty of it all! Give me a break. Isn’t it time to stop catering to thugs?
And then, Brody goes on to state -
By the way, Obama never mentioned President Bush by name last night. Shouldn’t he have done that?
As we do, we must also reaffirm that the United States is not –- and never will be -– at war with Islam. I’ve made clear, just as President Bush did shortly after 9/11, that our war is not against Islam.
So, while David rants a bit of needing a more jingoistic President, and plays casual with the facts, some of us continue our prayers and remembrances of those who have been lost during the past 10 years.
When I was in Indianapolis this weekend, I had the chance to visit the famed Half-Priced Books store. I visited two different locations, and in each location, I ran across this same scene.
One person would pick the book up and show to it their shopping partner (a husband and wife, a father and a daughter). The partner would make some snide remake. The husband showed the wife and she wanted to take it, stomp on it, burn it and alluded to the vileness of the man upon whom the book was based.
The father and daughter’s scene was better, but still rough.
I was hot.
How could they!
Of course, I did the same thing during the tenure of the previous administration. I didn’t speak to the issues, I just spewed hate.
I stood condemned that I had done the same thing and expected people not to return the favor.
I reckon I am just tired of the hate on both sides.
I hated the presidency of George W. Bush. I mean it too, I hate it. And I realize that people have felt the same way about this President since before we was sworn in.
I don’t validate their hatred. I don’t validate mine.
Instead, I hope that at some point in the future, people will see the cycle that is going on and only growing and maybe stop it.
I’ve often wondered that myself. This week, the former President will accept an award for his advancement of pro-life causes, and yet, there is something no right about that. John Gehring takes a look as Bush’s record and asks the same question.
TheStar.com – World – Was Bush on a mission from God?
WASHINGTON–George W. Bush comes to Toronto today bedevilled by fresh questions about whether the former U.S. president felt the hand of God driving his wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Bush, a born-again Christian since age 40, arrives for today’s paid speaking engagement at Metro Toronto Convention Centre with fellow former president Bill Clinton amid a series of stranger-than-fiction disclosures, one of which suggests that apocalyptic fervour may have held sway within the walls of his White House.
Bush, who turns 63 in July and was 54 when first sworn into office in 2001, has yet to comment on the reports. They include last week’s GQ magazine exposé into the hawkish use of scripture in 2003, when then-defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld forwarded secret intelligence memos to Bush embroidered with biblical passages.
I found this blog post from a few days ago. Thought it was interesting to see exactly what happened and wonder if people will now forgo their false prophets.
–> Benny Hinn is reported to have prophesied in June or July of 2000 that George Bush would be the final U.S. President.
–> Scott Walkington, in a NDE experience, stated that Bush would be compelled to remain in office when something stops the inauguration and America is nuked. He stated the rapture would occur while Bush was in office.
–> A young woman named Julie had a dream of millions of people disappearing into the air while Bush was President. Julie was not saved at the time and didn’t know what the rapture was.
–> John Mark Pool, on Sid Roth radio in 2005, prophesied that Bush would rule from a bunker when America was attacked.
–> Choo Thomas, author of Heaven is So Real, states that God told her Bush was the last president.
–> There were 42 kings over Israel. Bush is the 42nd man to be President. Some say that biblical parallels indicate Bush will therefore be the last American President.
–> J.R. Nyquist, of World Net Daily, had a dream in which he saw portraits of the presidents. The portraits ended with Bush. In the dream, Nyquist was told that the Republic ends with Bush.
Note, many might point to the fact that Obama’s ‘eligibility’ has not been settled, but in fact it has been (and here). (Remember, there would have to a great conspiracy planned from before Obama’s birth to orchestrate the birth anouncement and the certificate, to elect George W. Bush – thus destroying any chances for the Republicans to gain the White House in 2008 – and finally, to have Obama win.)
I caught this story earlier in the week, but I have recently noticed that the Evangelicals are now picking up on it. How can anyone who has seen the policies of this man think that he really believed the bible?
George W. Bush’s recent statement that he believes the Bible is “probably not” literally true has apparently left many Christian conservatives reeling in shock.
David Brody of the Christian Broadcasting Network told CNN”s John Roberts on Thursday, “I think a lot of social conservative evangelicals were surprised — probably grabbing the smelling salts as we speak.”
Bush made the controversial statement during a Monday interview on ABC’s Nightline. When asked whether he thinks the Bible is literally true, he replied, “Probably not. No, I’m not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it.”
God send ‘a’ son? Not even Jesus, or ‘the’ son or ‘His’ God’ but ‘a’ son? Eight years ago, the religious right flocked to Bush in an Messianic like way, believing him some Christian candidate, yet, when his thoughts are exposed, we find him failing to meeting many of the evangelical watermarks that are so often applied to Barack Obama. The Bible is not literal. God is ‘a’ son. Evolution is compatible.
WASHINGTON (AP) — President George W. Bush said his belief that God created the world is not incompatible with scientific proof of evolution.
In an interview with ABC’s “Nightline” on Monday, the president also said he probably is not a literalist when reading the Bible although an individual can learn a great deal from it, including the New Testament teaching that God sent his only son.
Asked about creation and evolution, Bush said: “I think you can have both. I think evolution can — you’re getting me way out of my lane here. I’m just a simple president. But it’s, I think that God created the earth, created the world; I think the creation of the world is so mysterious it requires something as large as an almighty and I don’t think it’s incompatible with the scientific proof that there is evolution.”
He added, “I happen to believe that evolution doesn’t fully explain the mystery of life.”
Interviewer Cynthia McFadden asked Bush if the Bible was literally true.
“You know. Probably not. … No, I’m not a literalist, but I think you can learn a lot from it, but I do think that the New Testament for example is … has got … You know, the important lesson is ‘God sent a son,’” Bush said.
“It is hard for me to justify or prove the mystery of the Almighty in my life,” he said. “All I can just tell you is that I got back into religion and I quit drinking shortly thereafter and I asked for help. … I was a one-step program guy.”
The president also said that he prays to the same God as those with different religious beliefs.
“I do believe there is an almighty that is broad and big enough and loving enough that can encompass a lot of people,” Bush said.
When asked whether he thought he would have become president had it not been for his faith, Bush said: “I don’t know; it’s hard to tell. I do know that I would have been — I’m pretty confident I would have been a pretty selfish person.”
Bush said he is often asked whether he thinks he was chosen by God to be president.
“I just, I can’t go there,” he said. “I’m not that confident in knowing, you know, the Almighty, to be able to say, Yeah, God wanted me of all the other people.”
He also said the decision to go to war in Iraq was not connected to his religious beliefs.
“I did it based upon the need to protect the American people from harm,” Bush said.
“You can’t look at the decision to go into Iraq apart from, you know, what happened on Sept. 11. It was not a religious decision,” he said. “I don’t view this as a war of religion. I view this as a war of good, decent people of all faiths against people who murder innocent people to achieve a political objective.”
He said he felt like God was with him as he made big decisions, but that the decisions were his.
Kim Clement has prophesied that because George W. Bush was a praying man, God will put Sarah Palin in the White House. I have to wonder, what will happen to these false prophets if ‘that one’ wins? Also, as it occurred to these people that she is running for Vice-President, while John McCain is running for President, meaning that John will be in the White House? Or do they know this and will pray that he dies in office, leaving a very inexperienced Governor who’s sum total of foriegn policy experience is that she can Russia from her house in the Oval Office?
And what if Palin-McCain wins? WIll it spell the end of the secular government? You do realize that these are the same people who wish to bring about an Apostolic Government, right? You know, where every State has an Apostle over it?
“When I place in the White House those who know how to pray, not those who ‘paddy whack’ in prayer, not those who repeat and pray repetitious prayers, but those who know how to shake, to shake the very altar, those are the ones that shall bring into the marketplace this outpouring that I have planned beyond the four walls of religion and that which they call the church.”
For God said, “These four years will be energetic outpourings in every state. And they will say, ‘let us go to Texas, for it is there; and they shall say no, no, no, no let us go to Florida for it is there; no let us go to Oklahoma for it is there. Truly.’ And they shall say, ‘where else? Go to California, it’s there, go to Arizona, it’s there.’ And they shall look at all of the states. Alaska, you have offered unto Me something that I will use and breathe upon and bring a blessing of fire into that cold place,” says the Lord! “I will do it,” says the Lord!
“And they shall say, ‘there’s fire everywhere, fire everywhere, consuming, consuming, consuming.’ There is fire everywhere coming from an energy that shall rapidly come.” So God says, “People, do not say, ‘you are not elected.’” For God said, “The elect of God have had a severe adversary as they have pushed through this great door that has opened. For the great adversary that has stood at your door has now been put under your feet, therefore, run through that door, run through that door, run through that door,” says the Spirit of God!
The Lord says, “The White House shall become the prayer house. The White House shall be called the prayer house. And then they will mock and say, ‘it is the White House,’ and then they will mock and say, ‘it is the wild house because the Quakers have come.’ And they will say, ‘there is even shaking there and trembling.’”
God said, “This is going to be as a result, and even though many men have hated this President – of his own battle with a Babylonian prince with a Babylonian spirit – that has endeavored to take this Nation and bring it to its knees. Because of President Bush,” God said, “who prayed every day, I am going to produce in the White House, Spirit-filled human beings that will pray with the Spirit and power. And they will not be ashamed of it.”
I am opposed to congregations getting involved with politics on any level and indeed, people who use the name of Christ to get involved as well. What worries me is that the Constitution provides for a clear separation of Church and State, and while people bemoan and wail if the State was to encroach on the Church, they seem willing to allow the Church to encroach on the State.
In the past 2 elections, the Republicans have co-opted the ‘religious right’ while demonizing the ‘religious left’. Suddenly, the volcano of evangelical political power that had been building since the last 70′s, ebbing in the Reagan years, and again coming to the national scene with the election of the Clinton-Gore ticket, erupted when the evangelicals played an important part, even providing the deciding factor, in a presidential race. It was built with Dobson, Falwell, Robertson, and Kennedy, among others, writing books, building colleges, networks of media outlets, and disciples that promoted all things right-wing. The evangelical agenda explored to new heights, believe it or not, when congregations of various denominations all participated in the 40 Days of Purpose Driven Life programs. Suddenly, denominations were united on a different level and it was proved that pastors would yield their pulpits to an outside voice if that voice was backed by a furor from the public.
In 2004, in the midst of the campaign, I was taking a political science class at a university. The professor, a strong liberal, taught a class of 90% liberal democrats. Then there was the lone Republican and me. No one believed that the Evangelicals could vote for the Republicans again, because of the war, but when I begin to put it in terms of American support for Israel, it became clear that many evangelicals would vote for Bush because they saw the Iraqi war in eschatological terms. (Think LeHaye’s awful series, Left Behind).
Now, we see a mad rush by both candidates to reach out to Evangelicals, the religious center to right. The problem that I see, is that congregations, and the Church, should not be involved in politics. Paul told Timothy not to be entangled in the affairs of this world, and yet we see so many trying to sway politics. Can you really imagine Paul waging a campaign for a Roman Senator? Our mission on this planet is not to change the planet, or to pass laws, govern nations, or to enforce the morality of Christianity on the populace. Instead, we are told to reach the people, speak the truth, preach the word. We are to be soul winners, not political campaigners.
And may God have mercy on those that use the pulpit to campaign for any particular political party. Is it not the same as using the name of God to murder people? (Crusades, Iraqi War) How many things have been done in the name of God and Christ? For centuries, Rome maintained a nominal control over western Europe, while the great Seljuq Dynasty maintained control over a good deal fo the Middle East, reaching into Asia. Both seats of power ruled in the name of their God and both forced people to do things for religious reasons. Why? Because some thought it best to use the things that should be reserved for God for the things of this world.
I am not suggesting that either Senators McCain or Obama will attempt to ignite a new theocracy, but the picture is still startling. Why must you court the religious right? (Or religious left for that matter) Why should a presidential candidate court the pro-Israel lobby? Remember the young shepherd boy, David. who was tending sheep while the great king was in trouble with the Lord. Or even the twelve year old Jesus, who was about His Father’s business while the Jews planned a rebellion. His Father’s business, as we know, was to preach repentance.
We need to be about our Father’s business, if indeed God is our Father. If you live in the United States, then vote the issues that matter to you. Search the issues in the bible and see where it ranks with God. Abortion? Justice? Environment? War? Defense? So many issues that matter to Americans, but do what matters to God? Don’t confuse the two. (And don’t confuse this country with some divinely establish nation that is the sole greatest country on earth).
Take this also into account. In 2000 and 2004 the Evangelical leaders said some awful things about God (God is pro-war, Falwell) and drug His name into the basest mud. They drug Him out and had Him endorse George W. Bush as a Christian candidate. They made it the eleventh commandment to vote Republican. All on the promise that George Bush would end abortion. Yet, nothing.
Remember, Christ said to render to Caesar what is Caesar’s and God what is God’s and politics is too unholy to be from God.
I would ask the candidates to stop these silly appeals to envangelicals and instead focus on real issues. Leave the things of God up to God, and God alone.