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June 9th, 2011

Rev. Barry Lynn on the ‘Ark Park’

Good for him!

I really don’t care what group wants to build what – but if I was in Kentucky, I’d be a little upset that my tax dollars were being used to in such a way.

Answers in Genesis is not a ministry – well, not an honest one. I have to agree with Lynn, that they are comparable with Harold Camping. Neither care about actually reading the bible. Period.

And, just to be clear – I wouldn’t want my tax dollars being used for any actual ministry either.

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March 22nd, 2011

Ken Ham Removed From Homeschool Convention for UnChristian Behavior

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Seems that finally someone from his neck of the woods – because he considers everyone with a biblical view of Genesis One less than Christian – has called him and AiG out for their unChristian behavior to other Christians, among other things. In what should have been a private matter, Ham has now gone on the offensive – as he always does – against a Homeschool Association which removed him from speaking at their upcoming Convention. All I can say is, thank God!

This is the letter which was sent to AiG and Ham but with Ham’s response to it – a private email now made public:

Answers in Genesis, recognized as one of the strongest advocates for homeschooling in America, has been kicked out of two homeschool conventions where AiG President Ken Ham had been scheduled to speak. In addition, AiG as an exhibitor has also been expelled. One of the conferences is being held in our “backyard”: at the Cincinnati Convention Center.

So why has AiG been disinvited from the “Great Homeschool Conventions” (March 31–April 2 in Cincinnati) and also near Philadelphia (June 23–25)? Have the organizers accused AiG of promoting anti-biblical teaching and thus have voided its contract with us?

In an email to Ken Ham, the leader of this homeschool group wrote to us (just after midnight last night) to announce its decision. Sadly, the leader of this group did not personally call Ken or anyone at AiG first, nor did anyone on his board, to make sure they got the full background. Just as a common courtesy, not to speak of biblical guidelines (such as Proverbs 18:13; Matthew 18:15–17; etc.), one would expect that one of its leaders would at least have spoken to us before rescinding our agreement.

We are quoting the entire email so we don’t misrepresent in any way the group’s claimed motivations:

After much prayer and deliberation over the weekend, Great Homeschool Convention’s Advisory Board has unanimously decided to disinvite Ken and AIG from all future conventions, including the Cincinnati convention next week. The Board believes this to be the Lord’s will for our convention and searched the Scriptures for the mind of the Lord and the leadership of the Holy Spirit before arriving at this decision. The Board believes that Ken’s public criticism of the convention itself and other speakers at our convention require him to surrender the spiritual privilege of addressing our homeschool audience.Please know that our Board is 100% young earth and we largely share AIG’s perspective from a scientific standpoint. That is why Ken was originally invited and treated so graciously and extremely generously in Memphis and Greenville (far beyond what we do for other speakers or their ministries). Our expression of sacrifice and extraordinary kindness towards Ken and AIG has been returned to us and our attendees with Ken publicly attacking our conventions and other speakers. Our Board believes Ken’s comments to be unnecessary, ungodly, and mean-spirited statements that are divisive at best and defamatory at worst.

One of the core values of our convention is that we believe that good people can disagree and still be good people. We believe that Christians do not need to personally question the integrity, the intelligence, or the salvation of other Christians when debating Biblical issues. Ken has obviously felt led to publicly attack our conventions and a number of our speakers. We believe that what Ken has said and done is unChristian and sinful. A number of attendees are demanding explanations from our board and we must respond to them.

We believe that Dr. Ham is very intelligent and deliberate and that he decided that publicly slandering our conventions and defaming a number of our speakers is what he wanted to do. Whereas Ken chooses to conduct himself in a way that we believe to be unscriptural, we cannot countenance that spirit as we believe it would not honor the Savior whom we serve.

A public statement will be prepared for distribution at the convention explaining our Board’s decision. Anyone who inquires regarding Dr. Ham or AIG will be referred to that statement. We have no intention to defame or publicly slander Dr. Ham, the Creation Museum, or the work of AIG. Our Board would respectfully request that Dr. Ham and AIG prayerfully consider doing the same. Our Board takes seriously the admonition of Jesus in John 13:35, “By this shall all men know that ye are My disciples, if ye have love one to another.”

Sincerely,

Brennan Dean

Great Homeschool Conventions, Inc.

These are serious accusations. Are we really guilty of “public criticism of the convention itself and other speakers at our convention” that require Ken Ham “to surrender the spiritual privilege of addressing [their] homeschool audience”?

While Ken was highly critical of the compromises and teachings of one of the presenters at a previous convention that was organized by Mr. Dean, he certainly did not question anyone’s intelligence or salvation.

We won’t dwell much into the fact that another speaker, Dr. Jay Wile, made personal attacks on Ken on his blog before the convention, and his attack was supported by two other speakers, John Stonestreet and Susan Wise Bauer. Maybe Mr. Dean has talked with them already.

Ken did write Facebook and blog items sharing his concerns about the teaching of one of the speakers at the homeschool convention—Dr. Peter Enns. For a long time now, Ken has been alerting audiences to what Dr. Enns believes and teaches. Since he was there at the convention to promote a Bible curriculum to homeschoolers, Ken could not in good conscience speak without warning people about him. Also, the conference organizers were aware back in November that we would be talking about the beliefs of BioLogos at upcoming conventions. Because Dr. Enns of BioLogos was speaking at Mr. Dean’s conventions to promote a Bible curriculum to homeschoolers, which we consider very dangerous to the spiritual upbringing of kids, we wanted to make sure that people knew what he believed.

(We will be providing a detailed critique of the Bible curriculum in the near future. For the moment, you should be aware that Dr. Enns makes it clear that sin should not be discussed with young children because it will cause problems with their view of God. He also doesn’t believe in a literal Adam and literal Fall. Yet he sometimes describes Adam and the Fall in a way that he appears to believe in them, but only later do you understand he merely uses these words metaphorically.)

Ken Ham did mention Peter Enns by name in one of his five talks at an earlier South Carolina convention in Greenville organized by Mr. Dean. Ken showed two video clips of Dr. Enns, done in the context of showing how some modern Christian speakers are compromising God’s Word in Genesis. Ken did say that Dr. Enns was also speaking at the conference and had connections to another convention speaker, Susan Wise Bauer. In another talk about a common Christian viewpoint that compromises Genesis, Ken briefly mentioned that one of the speakers at this convention took that view.

You can read for yourself what Ken wrote in his blog and Facebook (by the way, we are not at all ashamed of what we have done to warn Christian families, and we would do it all over again):

Also, we have written prior blogs posts showing photos of convention resources to warn parents about compromising materials distributed at homeschool conventions:

http://blogs.answersingenesis.org/blogs/ken-ham/2011/03/20/beware/

Ken’s main Facebook entry is the following: http://www.facebook.com/notes/ken-ham/warning-all-homeschoolers/186020768110064

Our Creator and Savior, the Word, the Lord Jesus, certainly confronted compromisers publicly. He taught, “whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in Me to stumble, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he were thrown into the sea” (Mark 9:42).

In Jude we read, “Beloved, while I was very diligent to write to you concerning our common salvation, I found it necessary to write to you exhorting you to contend earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints” (Jude 1:3).

We at AiG are burdened before the Lord that parents may choose to use the Bible curriculum from Dr. Enns, without being aware of the destructive teachings in it. The church is already losing two-thirds of our young people. Someone needs to stand against the compromise that is pouring into the church from many directions.

Interestingly, the Great Homeschool Convention’s website states the following:

While are Christians – gratefully and unapologetically so – and whereas this helps to guide how we structure the convention, we do not require that an attendee, speaker or exhibitor “affirm” their agreement to our own Statement of Faith. Neither do we require that you PAY to join our organization (we don’t have one) or any other organization in order to receive a discounted admission to the convention. Further, if you elect to PAY to join a homeschooling-related group of some sort that you saw at our convention – – – we do NOT receive commissions on your membership fees.

Similarly – – – whereas we may not schedule a speaker or approve an exhibitor that is specifically “anti-Christian” – – – we do have Speakers and Exhibitors that are not specifically “Christian” but that DO provide knowledge, information and/or curriculum that is applicable and valuable for homeschoolers, both Christian and non-Christian alike. Accordingly, you should note that we do not necessarily endorse everything you may find in the Exhibit Hall or that you may hear in a Seminar or Workshop session.

Because this is an education forum, we do not propose to “filter” everything–allowing you to see or hear only what “we” have approved. We believe that you, as parent educators, are very capable of judging and making intelligent decisions for yourself and for your family. Our conventions are designed to help a broad spectrum of homeschoolers and people considering homeschooling. They are not, however, denominational meetings to formulate unity of belief and practice.

Isn’t a “forum” a place where various competing views have a place to speak their position? Well, despite their rhetoric, it seems that Answers in Genesis has been filtered! Because we publicly exposed one of their speakers and his curriculum because his beliefs clearly undermine the authority of Scripture, we apparently come under the heading of “anti-Christian” in our actions.

In the homeschool board’s email to Ken they stated the following:

We believe that Christians do not need to personally question the integrity, the intelligence, or the salvation of other Christians when debating Biblical issues.

I certainly questioned a person’s stand on Scripture, but I did not question his integrity, intelligence, or salvation. My focus was upon the error of his teaching, not his personal relationship with Jesus Christ or his character. Furthermore, we are unaware of anything said or done at previous a convention that could be viewed as an attack on the conference itself. That certainly was not our intention, and if we attacked the conference or our hosts, we would want to fix that problem. After appearing at two recent conferences now, we note that not one person we have met at the conferences or who has written to us later has suggested we attacked the conference. Instead, what AiG did was to attack ideas—ideas being represented at the conference that are clearly outside the pale of orthodox Christianity. If the conference organizers were sincere in their concern for Christian charity, why did they make no effort to talk to us before unilaterally disinviting AiG? And to confront us first and have some dialogue? Is this really about Christian charity, or something else altogether?

We should also add that many months before Ken spoke, AiG made it quite clear to the leader of this convention that we speak against those who compromise Scripture, including those who might be speaking at his convention. AiG’s CCO, Mark Looy, had a very frank but cordial discussion with Mr. Dean about this BioLogos/Dr. Enns matter in November. Mark took notes during the phone conversation; here are excerpts from his summary:

Since I know Brennan a little, I called him a few weeks ago and told him our deep concerns about BioLogos [being at the convention]—but informed him we will not be pulling out.

He told me that many h.s. conventions are becoming “less Christian”—that they will have vendors there to cater to the secular and even Jewish families that are becoming good-size segments within the h.s. movement . . . . Brennan made it sound as if he might avoid BioLogos in 2012 and beyond, but he did not promise that. I told him that Ken would still mention compromise in the church, and might bring up BioLogos by name in his keynotes, and Brennan replied: “I would expect nothing else from AiG.”

Ken and I decided that we will just live with BioLogos there. At least we can counter their compromise messages with solid teaching from Ken.

We often find today that if we speak against someone’s theological compromise, we are accused of being “un-Christian” or “unloving.” This is a bigger topic for another time, but for the moment let us state that we need to understand what the Bible means by “love.” It does not mean one doesn’t publicly stand against error.

Being kicked out of these conventions is sad, but AiG notes this is not the major issue here. What is troubling is more and more churches have been infiltrated by academics who compromise God’s Word, and many Christians are simply unaware of the danger. This is the saddest part of all: a convention that will attract thousands of parents wanting direction in their choice of materials and information to give their children may be led astray and end up unwittingly undermining the faith of their children—children whom they want to train to serve the Lord.

We at Answers in Genesis are on a crusade—a mission. We continue to move ahead to call the church and culture back to the authority of God’s Word.

It is sad that a speaker and ministry, which stand boldly and uncompromisingly on the authority of God’s Word, are eliminated from a homeschool convention. Yet speakers and exhibitors who obviously undermine the authority of God’s Word are welcomed.

Incidentally, have you ever noticed individuals at BioLogos and elsewhere cry the loudest for what they call tolerance and free speech, but tend to be the most intolerant and censorious of others? The position of Answers in Genesis is that when it comes to biblical truth, there is only one truth, and we are called to be intolerant of all other opposing claims of truth. AiG is, therefore, at least willing to admit our “intolerance” in this area. Those who have joined together in a harmony of accusations against AiG over this homeschool convention incident have one thing in common: a double standard. At the end of the day, they are censors. They claim to want open debate and discussion, but when we engage them in the battle of ideas, they launch invectives and ad hominem arguments, and then seek to exclude AiG from the debate. In our view, there is nothing “Christian” about that.

In the convention’s email to us, it was stated, “Please know that our Board is 100% young earth and we largely share AIG’s perspective from a scientific standpoint.” We have made this point over and over again: we recognize that Christians who believe millions of years, evolution, Adam is a metaphor, etc. are undermining the authority of God’s Word. The issue comes down to one of authority.

This sad situation clearly illustrates a massive problem in our churches today about the authority of God’s Word.

So ends Ken’s public slandering of Dean.

It is sad and laughable that Ham is doing more prooftexting to defend himself. This is a martyrdom worldview, to be sure and Ham is using it for all it is worth.

Dr. Peter Enns is a prophetic voice for Christianity today, trying to get us to some sort of biblical foundation of Revelation and Reason. Ken is injecting into Scripture all sorts of liberal ideas based not on the Word of God, but upon his own eisegesis. AiG is doing a great disservice from the Church as it seeks to remove us from Scripture, and place us upon the magisterium which is Ken Ham. His base interpretation of Genesis One is of the worst sort, and his hypocritical science breathtakingly wrong. And yet, people are leaving Christ and His Church, to follow him.

Congrats to Bro. Dean and to the homeschoolers who are taking of their time to teach their children about the wonders of God’s Creation and His Holy Word.

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September 8th, 2010

Answers in Genesis the television commercial

This television commercial for Answers in Genesis was shown tonight during The Gruen Transfer, an Australian television program that analyzes advertising. The advertising executives on the panel commented that this ad is playing on the fears people have of massacres at schools, and the reaction was overwhelming negative towards it; and it was said that fear is good at keeping people in (communicating to the converted) but fear is not good at attracting new people.

The host of The Gruen Transfer Wil Anderson commented: Go ahead, make my Opus Dei.

May 8th, 2010

Ken Ham Establishes What it Takes to be a Christian 2000 years later

Ken Ham who heads the group, Answers in Genesis, has decided that you have to believe in a scientific viewpoint of Genesis 1, but all of those other parts about treating people decent, not judging, and not adding other things to the Scriptures can be thrown out. To be honest, I am more of a fan of Dr. McGrath than I am of Ken Ham – all though the former and myself might disagree on more than the latter and myself. I think, that is.

Ham clearly disagrees with Dr. McGrath on a few things, but what Ham has done is to take a discussion to a very low level.

First, Ham tries to undermine Dr. McGrath by associating him with atheist professor Dr. Michael Zimmerman:

Dr. James F. McGrath is the associate professor of religion at Butler University (Indianapolis, Indiana ).  This university is home to the Clergy Letter Project founder,  Prof. Michael Zimmerman—an atheist who gets  pastors to sign a letter supporting evolution and organizes pastors to have a special “Evolution Sunday” in their churches. Among other courses, McGrath teaches a course on science fiction and religion, as well as religion and science.

It is generally an effective tactic in a debate, but it should be beneath Ham and not his first swing.

Citing a post from March of this year, Ham goes on to question Dr. McGrath’s Christianity – I guess using himself as the standard:

After reading that, I confess, I do not know what Dr. McGrath believes about the gospel.  It certainly does not sound like orthodox Christianity to me.  Sounds to me like some intellectual assent to some aspects of Christianity, but he gets to pick and choose the parts he likes.

He ends his maliciousness with this:

Just think about it, Dr. McGrath is associate professor of religion at Butler University!  Perhaps his chair should be renamed: “associate professor of anti-Christianity at Butler University.”

I am unfamiliar with the text which allows Ham to decide if a person has faith or not. Yes, I do believe that the bible tells us to call out those who are preaching a false gospel or who have bad doctrine, or who cause heresies and divisions within the Church – the more so when they claim to be doing something in the name of God – but I am also equally aware that a person is not be judged by another.

I am unfamiliar with the passage what speaks about a literal interpretation of the text (except for poetry, allegory, hyperbolic and parabolic language) as what maintains the ‘authority of the bible.’

Though, We do help people understand that the message of the gospel does come from the Bible; thus, the question as to the authority of the Word of God is a very important one.

Christ, in John, was pretty hard on those who took an extreme stance on the Scriptures, who followed their own interpretations (often literal ones) rather that Who was standing right in front of them.

I believe in a Genesis 1, but is about faith and theology. It is more about stating that the one God of Israel created the heavens and the earth in an orderly fashion and is still sitting on the throne than about the science of how. If science was involved, I would expect more detail. Genesis 1 is more about the Who and the why than the how. Yet, according to Ham, my faith would be in doubt and the value which I place upon the word of God, the Scriptures, would be questioned by him. And while he maintains that one doesn’t have to believe in a literal interpretation of Genesis 1 to be saved, his words follow flat due to the rest of his post in which he questions those that do not.