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February 1st, 2012

Ken Ham doesn’t believe in the Historical Jesus @AiG

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Whatever do you mean, Joel?

Ken makes a logical fallacy, that for Jesus to be the Son of God, he would have to be completely inhuman. I note that Paul writes that Christ emptied himself of his deity to assume flesh, and yet, Ham argues with Paul. Surely, Ham opines, that Jesus was complete deity. For him, Jesus must have known everything and been incapable of not knowing. Scripture tells us that Christ was tempted in every way, and overcame those temptations. This is because Jesus was human. He was a Jew. A Palestinan Jew of the 1st century, no matter what else we wish to believe about him… Jesus was a Jew.

Ham allows two ‘researchers’ from AiG to write,

The idea advanced by Dr. Enns here is known as the accommodation theory and was first advanced in the eighteenth century by Johann Semler, the father of German rationalism. The accommodation theory is very popular among liberal theologians and basically asserts that Jesus accommodated (accepted and taught) the various ideas of His day, even if they were wrong.5 Allegedly, since Jesus was primarily concerned with spiritual matters, He didn’t bother to correct some of their false historical or scientific beliefs because doing so might have distracted from His real message.

Did Jesus Tell a Lie? | Around the World with Ken Ham.

If this was the case, that Jesus had to correct everything (and for some reason, Ham and others assume that the Jews of 1st century Palestine were just proto-fundamentalist Christians in believe), then why didn’t he do that about medicine? Or give the world nuclear energy? Or tell people that washing hands wasn’t just a good thing when eating, but so too for physicians? Do you know how many lives that could have saved between then and the late 1800′s when it started happening?

They must make the presupposition that the 1st century Jewish Jesus believed and taught what the 21st century Ken Ham does. Second, they must believe that unless Jesus did, then Jesus was wrong. Third, they must endeavor to make sure that other 1st century Jews believed the same way that Ham does now. Fourth, they assume that unless Jesus acted in accordance with their theology, then he was wrong. Fifth, they also must assume that the Gospels are ‘historical narrative’ of the same time which is produced by modern Western societies. It is a house of cards which protects their faith.

So, no, Ken Ham doesn’t believe in the historical Jesus; he believes in an Imaginary Jesus of his own creation.

By the way, there is a blog tour for Dr. Enns’ book…see a post of it here.

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January 31st, 2012

The Intellectual Dishonesty of “Believing it, Defending it, Proclaiming it” @AiG

That is the motto of Answers in Genesis:

 

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When you start with ‘believing it’ as the first principle, you encourage groupthink. What one person thinks is what everyone else must think. We follow this by defense. Not examination. Not reformation. Not reforming or renewal. Only defense. This is the root of fundamentalism wherein there is no examination of the belief, only the requirement to believe it and then to defend it. As Peter Enns suggest for believers like Albert Mohler, theology should never be examined, only defended.

This is a pitiful excuse for ‘apologetics’ and indeed, a pitiful method of actual exegesis.

God help us never to be that locked into our own doctrines and beliefs that we never hear the Spirit calling….

January 27th, 2012

Strike science and government budgets from Tony’s resume

My dear, misguided, but nevertheless Christian friend Tony Breeden has become an expert in wordplay. He takes issue with my allowance that what Kentucky has done in supporting the Ark Encounters, replete with KJV-Onlyism’s unicorns, has in fact hurt education in that state. He writes, in part,

To give an example, a misguided theology student here in Appalachia made the following statement after reading that HuffPo article:

“Honestly… a 43$ million dollar tax cut and a 11$ million dollar interstate interchange… Wow… Of course, I guess if you actually want people to believe in unicorns, you need to cut funds to education…”

Note that he too simply re-gurgitated the misinformation that the HuffPo article. His unicorn comment refers back to Barry Lynn’s Ark Snark video which willfully misrepresented Answers in Genesis’ position that the Biblical term unicorn likely refers to a real creature, but something more akin to a rhinoceros than the fairy tale creature of pop culture. I submitted a comment to his site, noting where he’s repreated misinformation, but he has as yet neither published the comment nor corrected his post.

Okay… so the bit about unicorns… That’s not what the word actually says in Hebrew. I’ve checked with actual Hebrew scholars.

Further, like Tony does with science, he simply misses the dots in what everyone is saying.

Let me break it down…

First, a budget was approved to create a $11 million dollar interstate interchange for a park which no one knows if it will ever actually be built, but if it is built, then they will get $43 million dollars in tax credits. Now, the 11 million for the interstate-exchange-to-nowhere (c) is being funded in a budget that is facing cuts in other areas due to Kentucky’s poor economic state.

So… if you don’t have the budget to fully fund public education, then you shouldn’t have the budget to fund a  interstate-exchange-to-nowhere (c). However, the Governor of Kentucky is robbing, to borrow a cliche, Peter to pay Paul. Just think of it this way: If that interstate-exchange-to-nowhere (c)’s $11 million dollars weren’t being spent on concrete, then it could be spent on education.

Being a Young Earth Creationist doesn’t make you a scientist nor, obviously, does it make you an expert in government budgets.

Take it from me – one who actually has to deal with government budgets….

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January 22nd, 2012

Ken Ham to get 11 million+ from Kentucky – Higher Ed, Public Sector loses

Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear (D) has proposed a 2012-2013 budget that includes heavy cuts to some key departments while giving a $43 million tax break to a massive creationist theme park.

In his plan, Beshear calls for a 6.4 percent cut to Kentucky’s higher education department, a 2.2 percent cut to the State Police force and sizable cuts to other agencies in what he calls an effort tocut the budget to the bone. (here)

Yeah, I agree with Keith on this one…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuOZH6xSFbc

Honestly… a 43$ million dollar tax cut and a 11$ million dollar interstate interchange… Wow… Of course, I guess if you actually want people to believe in unicorns, you need to cut funds to education….

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November 3rd, 2011

Scott McKnight reviews Giberson’s Annointed

Scott McKnight is reviewing Karl Giberson’s latest work directed in part against Ken Ham and his liberal associates. McKnight writes of Ham,

Ken Ham, with no scientific credentials, no credentials in biblical scholarship, no evidence, and no research program, has become the front person, the spokesman for a large segment of evangelicalism. He proves nothing, he asserts what he finds to be truth and tells a story to make it so. He is a charismatic speaker on a mission and has become for many the authority on the evil of evolution and the dishonesty of modern science. Ken Ham and his organization Answers in Genesis have become “powerful shapers of popular opinion in America’s vast evangelical subculture.” (Annointed? … Evangelicals and Authority 1 (RJS) | Jesus Creed.)

This is something that others have noted before. With no actual background to speak of, with no real foundation, Ken Ham has attracted a large following who have surrendered to him their responsibility of examining the evidences presented by those with actual academic training. Why? Personally, I believe it is because it is in our human nature to believe the more complicated lie than to discover for ourselves the easier truth. Ham paints a rosey picture of a God who is the divine trickster, a Hebrew Loki, if you will, who creates countless evidences of an old earth and then demands that we stop using the very Reason he gave us to interpret the date to the only possible conclusion. Ham would have us believe in unicorns and dragons, but not God navigating natural laws – especially since He is the Lawmaker.

It is a powerful psychological force which draws people to believe Ham.

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September 20th, 2011

What evolved first? Investigation into Genesis 1 or Darwin?

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Ken Ham and others who are leading the liberal Creationist agenda would have us believe that over the last 150 years, Christians have compromised the ‘bible’ (what is this singular Greek book of which they speak?) because of Darwin. Anyone with any sorta of historical integrity could debunk that radical, liberal, notion that Darwin can first and that suddenly Christians everywhere were shaken in their foundation of the truth. The radical liberals, such as Answers in Genesis, would have us “take back our religion” from Darwin and return to a “literal reading of Scripture.” The problem is, is that in their liberality, they have turned from the Truth. David Carr shows that an early version of source-criticism actually appeared long before Darwin. Of course, if one has read the Language of Science and Faith they would note that before Darwin, Christians were questioning the sometimes usual interpretation of 6,000 years old. Of course, Hebrew scholars, and other ANE scholars, have noted that Genesis 1 and Genesis 2-3 are different in basic sources, and that the language of those chapters do not reflect a scientific meaning.

The year 2011 marks the 300th year after the publication of Henning Bernard Witter’s path-breaking discovery of criteria for uncovering a specific source behind the biblical book of Genesis. In 1711, this well-educated pastor in Germany published “Jura Israelitarum in Palaestinam Commentatione in Genesin perpetua” (Israelite laws in Palestine, comments on the eternal Genesis…), where he noted several important differences between the seven-day creation account in Genesis 1:1-2:3 and the story of the garden of Eden in Genesis 2:4-3:24.

 

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August 11th, 2011

More Tax Breaks for the Ark Encounter… who needs teachers anyway?

I mean, teachers and education, why… they just get in the way of Creationism…

The city of Williamstown in Grant County has agreed to give a biblically themed amusement park a property tax discount of 75 percent over the next 30 years.

Mayor Rick Skinner said the offer is laid out in a memorandum of agreement that will be followed by a formal tax-increment financing deal with Petersburg-based Ark Encounters LLC in coming months.

The tax deal is in addition to almost $200,000 given to the company by Grant County’s economic development arm as an enticement to keep the project located there, along with 100 acres of reduced-price land.

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The property tax agreement means the Ark Encounter would pay 25 percent of the taxes due on 800 acres of property that is eventually expected to be worth $150 million. Most local property taxes are used to finance Williamstown Independent Schools.

Read more: http://www.kentucky.com/2011/08/08/1839007/noahs-ark-theme-park-to-get-75.html#ixzz1UkS3dxW7

Wait… property tax discounts (regardless if the park actually takes off) and $200,000…

On top of that, Kentucky is looking to pay about 11 million in infrastructure improvements for the Ark Park.

See here as well

 

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June 14th, 2011

Ark Park as Porn Shop, Claiming the Ezekiel Mantle, and AiG Doesn’t like me

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On a recent post, I made the following comments regarding Ken Ham‘s latest scheme, swindle, or whatever it is you call it when you take people’s money for selling something that is false.

  • Build a porn shop – which is just about what the Ark Park is – but not with tax dollars
  • Like the porn shops, the Ark Park presents an unfaithful view of various things and positions unattainable. Both are disgusting because both prey on human weaknesses.
  • Yes, the porn shop comments stands. Both are charging people for something that is simply not true but passing it off as it is.

Here’s the deal. It is. The Ark Park is a grand scheme meant to sell something not true, devalues the message and belittles God’s Creation. Both present pictures of things that will never be yours and didn’t exist until someone got skill and wanted to sell a message. Further, again, both so devalue God’s Creation and try to profit from it.

Now, I’ve been criticized for that stance as saying something ungodly. Obviously these people, as they haven’t with Genesis, never thought to pick up Ezekiel. Ezekiel uses sexual imagery to go after Israel in a very vulgar way. Now, most people of the YEC ilk seem to read Ezekiel 37-39, but read a few of those other chapters (try 16 and 23) and see what YHWH and His prophet said about Jerusalem. Am I saying anything different than Ezekiel? Nope. Now, (Don’t Ask Questions) Answers in Genesis visited the site the other day and well… took offense. And they wrote a story about it. Kudos to them for having the courage to link to me (UPDATE 20:10, 6/15 – They removed the link. Cowards). Ken Ham, once, in writing a response to James McGrath, didn’t link to him. When you do those things, it is a cowardly act, so, let me again offer kudos for it – although the didn’t link to one of the posts mentioned.

For the record – I maintain the fact that tax dollars are being used for the Park and that yes, the Ark Park is comparable to a porn shop for reasons listed above. Again, read Ezekiel.

I have to ask myself – with all of the posts on Ken Ham and the various ones on the Mythological Adam – why now? Maybe they took offense to the porn shop thing…

Anyway…. as usual they call me a ‘and self-proclaimed Christian’. This is used regularly against those who challenge the snake-oil which AiG is selling (get it? snake-oil?). Now, when you read their story, you’ll notice that they claim several things. Moving the goal posts, I did not. Neither did Rodney. Rodney is far more libertarian than I, but I might would consider his viewpoint if given enough time.

It is a dishonest ministry, as Ham’s former partner would attest.

I notice that they write -

including a hand-waving claim—without substantiation—that he had not been changing the subject:

I don’t get that – why would I have to substantiate a claim made against me? (Oh, that’s right. AiG is a master of the argumentum ad ignorantiam. I refuse to participate in such things)

They go to write:

In a later addition to his blog, Joel dug another hole for himself. He made the charge (also stated by Rev. Lynn) that AiG intends to place the mythical unicorn on our proposed Ark. For a refutation of that false claim, read Unicorns in the Bible?

But, you see - this is my actual post. They are actually trying to separate the idea of a mythical unicorn and a real unicorn. At that point, sane people need to leave AiG alone. Now, I’m not going to say that they lied and misrepresented me. Oh wait, yes I am. They, like they have for others, lied and misrepresentation my view point. Then, to top it off, they quote a commentator know for using multiple names who took me out of context.

For fun, here is a transcript of an interview which Anderson Cooper interviews Barry Lynn, Ken Ham and has Jeff Toobin as a legal analyst.

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June 11th, 2011

Dragons and Unicorns in the Ark Park #facepalm

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The Ark Park has come to my attention. And in that, I noticed that they are actually going to have unicorns – UNICORNS – in the ‘exhibit’. Unicorns. As any former KJVO’er would know, the KJV has unicorns because it mistranslates re’em following the Greek, and not the Hebrew.

KJG  Deuteronomy 33:17 His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

NLT  Deuteronomy 33:17 Joseph has the majesty of a young bull; he has the horns of a wild ox. He will gore distant nations, driving them to the ends of the earth. This is my blessing for the multitudes of Ephraim and the thousands of Manasseh.”

Proving that Young Earth Creationists are still holding to the KJV (among other outdated data sets), Ken Ham (the modern day John Tetzel) has promised that unicorns (and dragons) will be in the Ark Park.

And then, in what I believe is rather childish behavior, uses a toy Sauropod dinosaur (and compares it to the bathtub Ark he says ‘IS’ Noah’s Ark!) to mock the project–and then adds the mythical version of the unicorn as if this is what we at AiG believe! AiG has a number of articles going back years, where we speak against the ‘fantasy unicorn,’ and deal with the meaning of the word in a scholarly way:  http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/aid/v2/n1/unicorns-in-bible

At the above linked article, you will find the same mind-bending/numbing ‘intellectualism’ which brings us to the present situation in American Christianity. They end not with actual facts, but the advantageous argumentum ad ignorantiam,

To think of the biblical unicorn as a fantasy animal is to demean God’s Word, which is true in every detail.

In other words – if you say, “No Ken, there were no unicorns. The Hebrew based text doesn’t say unicorns, but wild oxes, among other verifiable proofs,” then you are ‘demeaning’ the Scriptures. It is not the Scriptures which you are disagreeing with – but Ken Ham. Don’t confuse the two. This is just one of the many examples of Ham’s methodology. It is poor – beyond poor.

Oh… and there be dragons too!

But, while there are unicorns and dragons (which they use poorer and hypocritical methodology to say are dinosaurs) there will not be the Nephilim.

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June 10th, 2011

The Ark Park is Scary

Joel brought this place to my attention yesterday.  Just check out this from their FAQ page:

The Ark Encounter is a one-of-a-kind historically themed attraction. In an entertaining, educational, and immersive way, it presents a number of historical events centered on a full-size, all-wood Ark, which should become the largest timber-frame structure in the USA.

“Immersive”??? Are they planning to drown everyone just like in the story???

And again under the question about whether or not it will be an amusement park:

The Ark Encounter will be an immersive, historically themed experience for the whole family focused on having fun while learning about history. It is not an amusement park. It will feature a number of daily live performances, as well as live special events. It will also include “edu-tainment” aspects–educational and entertaining experiences within each attraction.

Daily live performances??? Really???  At the ark park???

You can leave me out.

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