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Cedarville “University” Puts Women in their place

After you read this story, read this link

In his March 10 chapel talk, Thomas White discussed the concept of headship based on 1 Corinthians 11:2–16. “We operate with the presupposition of inerrancy. So what I tell you today is not something that I wrote, I made up, or I started,” he said. “I’m just going to preach to you what the text says.”

Cedarville, which recently weathered a turbulent year of disagreements and resignations, has also restricted classes in the women’s ministry program—functionally, every Bible class in the fall schedule taught by a woman—to only female students, according to alumni and a university representative.

via Christian College Solidifies Complementarian Stance | Gleanings | ChristianityToday.com.

And of course, Denny Burk just loves this idea. I bet Al Mohler would too.

I do not feel like I need to go into how badly Thomas White gets 1 Co. 11.2-16 wrong.

I can tell you, however, this is one of the reason I’m happy to stay in the UMC, and why I knew I would never be a baptist when I started to search for a new home. This news is shocking, but not too unexpected. After all, they got rid of the philosophy department, put in a gun range, and took a hyper-conservative track in staff.

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Did Bill Nye Win? Did Ken Ham destroy science or Christianity?

Found on Reddit

I must admit, I didn’t watch much, but followed it on Twitter and Facebook. I’ve read several takes on it, as well as some transcripts. In the end, Nye comes off looking like a scientist who respects his field and allows for others to hold religious/spiritual beliefs. Nye did not provide any ammunition to the New Atheists crowd who often times trumpet the belief science and religion are irreconcilable. Oddly enough, Ham comes off looking more like a New Atheists and a toddler than Nye did.

For a really, really good play by play, see here:

Bill Nye Ken Ham Debate In Depth Recap Synopsis and Who Won.

Essentially, those of us who said Ham could refer to nothing but “the bible” were proved correct. He has no evidence, no theories, but can only appeal either to himself or those (even scientists) who support him. The very few scientists who maintain a poor theological reading of Genesis 1 and Genesis 2-3. Ham’s argument puts the ph in logical fallacy.

found on reddit

There are plenty of different reactions and play-by-plays as well. Even Albert Mohler, a YECer himself, has weighed in. I suspect his response was mostly written pre-game since it doesn’t really fit the facts. In the end, it comes down to this: your guy won. No seriously, that guy you know was going to win won because that other guy was clearly not speaking the truth and denied facts, the very same facts you already knew to be true. You won last night and the other side looks pitiful.

In my opinion, I thought Nye held up well, much better than expected. Ham showed why presuppositional apologetics is so minding-blowing stupid that only a complete and utter faithless soul could believe it and be forced to rely upon it. Unfortunately, Nye is not a theologian (neither is Ham) and missed several chances to correct Ham on his First Church of the Faith House of Cards. Nye could have presented a better understanding of the Gospel had he known just a bit about theology. Of course, when you come to discuss science, you believe you are going to discuss actual science and not Ham’s intellectual poverty.

The next debate should be between Ham and John Walton. Of course, Ham would look just as silly but hey, his supporters would still think he won.

So, again, congrats. Your guy won.

BTW, the Christian Post has a poll. Looks like Nye is winning handedly. Must be time for the Rapture.

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Completely unexpected news of the day: Albert Mohler denounces Papacy

This was my reaction to reading this:

For instance, the Roman Catholic Church officially teaches that the pope has the power to dispense merits, to forgive sin, to extend indulgences,” he said. “When you consider that you realize just how unbiblical this office is. The Roman Catholic Church, by its symbolism and by its formal teaching, says that the pope, whom they claim to be the successor of Peter, actually holds the keys of the kingdom to which Jesus refers in Matthew Chapter 16. We understand that the keys of the kingdom do indeed exist, that they belong to Christ and that they are handed to the church as a stewardship, not to Saint Peter.”

I have to wonder why he felt the need to attack ‘“some liberal Protestants and careless evangelicals” seeking theological consensus and common ground on social issues like marriage and the sanctity of human life.’ Maybe he feels threatened? Seems to me he doesn’t alike anyone challenging his own cardinal crown.

Note the official UMC announcement and the difference there.

Oh well…

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A letter from Adam And Eve

Yeah… a lot of good stuff in this parody –

Our contention with you rests firmly in your statement, “The moment you say, we have to abandon this theology in order to have the respect of the world, you end up with neither biblical orthodoxy, nor the respect of the world.”

In the midst of all of this you have forgotten the love of God. Your contention is with biblical orthodoxy and respect of the world, neither of which Jesus ever commanded.

Associated Baptist Press – Opinion: A letter from Adam And Eve.

Straw Men Created by the ‘Historical Adam’ Debate

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Statements like this – all the gospel will be lost if – has been uttered and repeated time and time again when those entrenched against new information cannot handle it and create fear scenarios . Dr. Mohler writes,

Thus, the denial of a historical Adam means that we would have to tell the Bible’s story in a very different way than the church has told it for centuries as the Bible has been read, taught, preached, and believed. If there is no historical Adam, then the Bible’s metanarrative is not Creation-Fall-Redemption-New Creation, but something very different.

If we do not know how the story of the Gospel begins, then we do not know what that story means. Make no mistake: a false start to the story produces a false grasp of the Gospel.

Adam and Eve: Clarifying Again What Is at Stake .

The issue is, is one of of intellectual dishonesty. This is not a slight against Dr. Mohler. This happens all the time and is natural – see the theory of motivated reasoning. What happens is you start with a position, A, and you reject anything that changes it, or outright dismisses it. You don’t challenge or otherwise defend against the evidence – in fact, all that is happening is that one has set up a position as unchangeable and defends that position by not allowing any contrary facts to exist.

The fact is, is that John Walton has placed along side the so-called ‘plain reading’ of Scripture Scriptural facts and evidences that the aforementioned reading is wrong. Yet, because that changes a particular narrative, it is not considered, or not considered fairly. This is what is happening. It is not that the Gospel is at stake – it wasn’t at stake at Nicea; it wasn’t at stake at the Great Schism; it wasn’t at stake in the Reformation. It’s not at stake now. What is at stake is entrenched interpretations – as the above mentioned moments in Christian history – and those who needed them to believe the Gospel. The fact is, is that with Walton’s evidences, the Covenantal theme becomes that much more clearer in Scripture. Perhaps, then, that is what troubles so many. Perhaps a change in the narrative is what is troublesome.

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