Unsettled Christianity

One blog to rule them all, One blog to find them, One blog to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
March 14th, 2013

Completely unexpected news of the day: Albert Mohler denounces Papacy

This was my reaction to reading this:

For instance, the Roman Catholic Church officially teaches that the pope has the power to dispense merits, to forgive sin, to extend indulgences,” he said. “When you consider that you realize just how unbiblical this office is. The Roman Catholic Church, by its symbolism and by its formal teaching, says that the pope, whom they claim to be the successor of Peter, actually holds the keys of the kingdom to which Jesus refers in Matthew Chapter 16. We understand that the keys of the kingdom do indeed exist, that they belong to Christ and that they are handed to the church as a stewardship, not to Saint Peter.”

I have to wonder why he felt the need to attack ‘“some liberal Protestants and careless evangelicals” seeking theological consensus and common ground on social issues like marriage and the sanctity of human life.’ Maybe he feels threatened? Seems to me he doesn’t alike anyone challenging his own cardinal crown.

Note the official UMC announcement and the difference there.

Oh well…

Enhanced by Zemanta
September 12th, 2011

A letter from Adam And Eve

Yeah… a lot of good stuff in this parody -

Our contention with you rests firmly in your statement, “The moment you say, we have to abandon this theology in order to have the respect of the world, you end up with neither biblical orthodoxy, nor the respect of the world.”

In the midst of all of this you have forgotten the love of God. Your contention is with biblical orthodoxy and respect of the world, neither of which Jesus ever commanded.

Associated Baptist Press – Opinion: A letter from Adam And Eve.

September 7th, 2011

Straw Men Created by the ‘Historical Adam’ Debate

Depiction of Adam and Eve being cast out from ...

Image via Wikipedia

Statements like this – all the gospel will be lost if – has been uttered and repeated time and time again when those entrenched against new information cannot handle it and create fear scenarios . Dr. Mohler writes,

Thus, the denial of a historical Adam means that we would have to tell the Bible’s story in a very different way than the church has told it for centuries as the Bible has been read, taught, preached, and believed. If there is no historical Adam, then the Bible’s metanarrative is not Creation-Fall-Redemption-New Creation, but something very different.

If we do not know how the story of the Gospel begins, then we do not know what that story means. Make no mistake: a false start to the story produces a false grasp of the Gospel.

Adam and Eve: Clarifying Again What Is at Stake .

The issue is, is one of of intellectual dishonesty. This is not a slight against Dr. Mohler. This happens all the time and is natural – see the theory of motivated reasoning. What happens is you start with a position, A, and you reject anything that changes it, or outright dismisses it. You don’t challenge or otherwise defend against the evidence – in fact, all that is happening is that one has set up a position as unchangeable and defends that position by not allowing any contrary facts to exist.

The fact is, is that John Walton has placed along side the so-called ‘plain reading’ of Scripture Scriptural facts and evidences that the aforementioned reading is wrong. Yet, because that changes a particular narrative, it is not considered, or not considered fairly. This is what is happening. It is not that the Gospel is at stake – it wasn’t at stake at Nicea; it wasn’t at stake at the Great Schism; it wasn’t at stake in the Reformation. It’s not at stake now. What is at stake is entrenched interpretations – as the above mentioned moments in Christian history – and those who needed them to believe the Gospel. The fact is, is that with Walton’s evidences, the Covenantal theme becomes that much more clearer in Scripture. Perhaps, then, that is what troubles so many. Perhaps a change in the narrative is what is troublesome.

Enhanced by Zemanta
August 22nd, 2011

Dr. Mohler, there really isn’t a fire there

Jason has linked to an article by Dr. Mohler which purports that their is a controversy about the existence of Adam and Eve. There is no controversy, expect when the liberals, i.e., ‘literalists’, deem it necessary to speak about the authority of Scripture and impose upon the ancient authors their own viewpoints.

Giberson then wrote: “The Bible is not a book. It is a library — dozens of very different books bound together. The assumption that identifying one part as fiction undermines the factual character of another part is ludicrous. It would be like going into an actual physical library and saying ‘Well, if all these books about Harry Potter are fictional, then how do I know these other books about Abraham Lincoln are factual? How can Lincoln be real if Potter is not?’ And then ‘Aha! I have got you! So much for your library.’”

That is an amazing and deeply troubling paragraph. Giberson uses the metaphor of the Bible as a library of books — a metaphor popularized by emergent church author Brian McLaren. But Giberson then goes where many others lack the courage and candor to go — he is ready to identify part of the Bible as “fiction.” In his words, “The assumption that identifying one part as fiction undermines the factual character of another part is ludicrous.”

What can his argument mean but that Adam is to be understood as like Harry Potter, a fictional character, while Jesus is like Abraham Lincoln, an historical figure who really existed?

It is a library and no one can expect to find all the books alike. It was written over a millenia or more, but lots of different authors, using different languages and sitting in different situations. Ruth contradicts Ezra. Eccl contradicts all of the Bible. Mohler is heating up an argument that doesn’t need to be. Further, Giberson has a moronic moment in using the word fiction, considering that that concept really don’t come into being until recently, relatively, and cannot be applied to any particular book, passage, or the such of the bible because even in the parables, it was not modern fiction. And as far as McLaren making the term popular, it is only because it would have gotten it from the Thompson-Chain Reference bibles which I grew up with, which included in the middle section notes on how the ‘Bible’ is a library.

Oddly enough, the Greek words which we have corrupted to mean ‘bible’ means ‘the books’ and refers to the plural books, i.e., IT IS NOT A SINGULAR BOOK, of the Scriptures. Paul, when he refers to the writings of the Jews always has it a plural. What do you call a set of books by different authors? Oh, a Library… that’s right… a library. We, who are inept in theology and history, have chosen to call it a ‘bible’, singular, when it doesn’t even refer to itself as that. Ironically, that’s why I try to call the holy writings by the plural form, usually Scriptures, because ‘bible’ is as foreign term to it. So, I reckon, if you are a liberal, you can continue to call it ‘Book.’

Jason is correct, however, in stating that there is a thematic element to the library. I would urge anyone to read The Great Code or N.T. Wright about narrative themes. And his link to his own posts about identifying the themes of the bible. Personally, I find great value in identifying those themes and they are indeed a blessing.

By the way, please don’t take this an attack on Dr. Mohler. Dr. Mohler is a man of God who deeply loves the Church, but I think he is wrong on this issue.

P.S…. there is no physical evidence that Adam and Eve existed, except in an extremely, authority-denying, reading of the Text.

Enhanced by Zemanta
June 18th, 2011

Al Mohler says Baptists must repent of homophobia

Writer Jonathan Merritt, a Southern Baptist minister and well-known social critic, quoted Mohler as saying “We’ve lied about the nature of homosexuality and have practiced what can only be described as a form of homophobia,” and “We’ve used the choice language when it is clear that sexual orientation is a deep inner struggle and not merely a matter of choice.”

Mohler said at the convention “there is no way anyone in fair mindedness can be confused about what I believe about homosexuality,” because he has written more than 200 articles about it, but that “the reality is that we as Christian churches have not done well on this issue.”

“Evangelicals, thankfully, have failed to take the liberal trajectory of lying about homosexuality and its sinfulness,” Mohler said. “We know that the Bible clearly declares – not only in isolated verses but in the totality of its comprehensive presentation – the fact that homosexuality not only is not God’s best for us, as some try to say, but it is sin.”

“But we as evangelicals have a very sad history in dealing with this issue,” he continued. “We have told not the truth, but we have told about half the truth. We’ve told the biblical truth, and that’s important, but we haven’t applied it in the biblical way.”

“We have said to people that homosexuality is just a choice,” Mohler said. “It’s clear that it’s more than a choice. That doesn’t mean it’s any less sinful, but it does mean it’s not something people can just turn on and turn off. We are not a gospel people unless we understand that only the gospel of the Lord Jesus Christ gives a homosexual person any hope of release from homosexuality.”

For another view, read Peter Lumpkins. I don’t know what to say.

Enhanced by Zemanta
May 2nd, 2011

I Agree with Albert Mohler about Justice

The death of bin Laden was fully justified as an act of war, but not as an act of justice. The removal of a credible threat to human life — a clear and present danger to human safety — is fully justified, especially after such an individual has demonstrated not only the will but the means to effect murder on a massive scale.

….

And yet, there are two troubling aspects that linger. The first is the open celebration in the streets. While we should all be glad that this significant threat is now removed, death in itself is never to be celebrated. Such celebration points to the danger of revenge as a powerful human emotion. Revenge has no place among those who honor justice. Retributive justice is sober justice. The reason for this is simple — God is capable of vengeance, which is perfectly true to his own righteousness and perfection — but human beings are not. We tend toward the mismeasure of justice when it comes to settling our own claims. All people of good will should be pleased that bin Laden is no longer a personal threat, and that his death may further weaken terrorist plans and aspirations. But revenge is not a worthy motivation for justice, and celebration in the streets is not a worthy response.

via AlbertMohler.com – The Trial that Still Must Come — The Death of Osama bin Laden and the Limits of Human Justice.

Well said, sir, well said.

August 26th, 2010

This is where Creationism is going: Mohler, Evolution Incompatible with Faith

“The theory of evolution is incompatible with the gospel of Jesus Christ even as it is in direct conflict with any faithful reading of the Scriptures,” Albert Mohler, head of the Louisville, Ky., school, wrote in his blog.

Associated Baptist Press – Seminary president says evolution ‘incompatible’ with Christian faith.

ht

Wow. Not only does Mohler dismiss a large portion of Christians today – those who do not see Genesis 1 as scientifically literal – but those throughout history (and even many in Second Temple Judaism) who didn’t read Genesis 1 the same way as Mohler does. What is this, but as Jim says, a work that we must accept a particular interpretation on a small portion of Scripture in order to be counted saved. This is where Creationism, at least those who hold that it is an essential doctrine to the Faith, are heading, to a division among the Faithful.

Even reading the Scriptures, we find those who didn’t hold to the Genesis 1 account as science…

But, this is the mentality which is increasingly familiar in the United States, an either or type, where everything is black and white, where a line is drawn, and all those on the other side are ‘other’ and thus unsaved.

Enhanced by Zemanta
September 30th, 2009

September 30th – International Blasphemy Day

I don’t want to make a habit of agreeing Dr. Mohler, however….

Ready for a day to honor blasphemy?  According to press reports, September 30 is set as the observance of the first-ever International Blasphemy Day. This could be interesting.

The choice of September 30 looks back to that date in the year 2005, when the publication of cartoons depicting the prophet Muhammad’s face sparked outcry and protests in the Muslim world and threats toward the West.

Now, as Religion News Service reports, the Center for Inquiry is planning a day of observances to mark the occasion.  Ron Lindsay, a lawyer who serves as president of the Council for Inquiry International, said that the day was part of the group’s effort to expose religious beliefs to investigation.  In the words of the RNS report, the goal is “to expose all religious beliefs to the same level of inquiry, discussion and criticism to which other areas of intellectual interest are subjected.”

Read the rest here:

http://www.albertmohler.com/2009/09/25/why-do-the-heathen-rage-international-blasphemy-day/.

August 23rd, 2009

Albert Mohler Takes on the Prosperity Gospel

“God knows where the money is, and he knows how to get the money to you.” That was the message of Gloria Copeland as she was speaking at the Southwest Believers’ Convention recently held in Fort Worth, Texas. The event drew the attention of The New York Times and reporter Laurie Goodstein contributed a compelling report about the meeting and its message.

The Southwest Believers’ Convention drew a crowd of more than 9,000 to hear an “all-star lineup” of preachers deliver the message of the prosperity gospel. One by one, the preachers and the speakers enticed the gathered thousands by offering them the assurance that God wants them rich — even fabulously rich. (read the rest here.)

April 16th, 2009

The Baptist's Civil War – Albert Mohler on Rick Warren's Judas moment

The Baptists are stirring -

April 14, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Rev. Albert Mohler, president of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, said he was stunned by Rev. Rick Warren’s apparent about-face on homosexual “marriage,” after the famous California mega-church pastor claimed last week on Larry King that he was not a proponent of California’s Proposition 8.

Rev. Albert MohlereRev. Mohler told the Washington Times, “I was extremely troubled by the way he [Rich Warren] appeared to be so anxious to distance himself from the same-sex issue and to make clear he was not an ‘activist’ and that he’d only addressed the issue in a very minor way.”

Rev. Warren told CNN’s Larry King on April 6 that he “never once went to a meeting, never once issued a statement, never once even gave an endorsement” of Proposition 8, which said that marriage in the state could only be between one man and one woman.

However, Warren had in fact issued a videotaped message two weeks before the November 4, 2008 Prop. 8 vote, which was an explicit endorsement of the marriage amendment.

Read the rest of this entry »

March 27th, 2009

Is United States heading for a 'post-Christian' culture?

What’s happening to America’s “Christian memory?” theologian and Southern Baptist Seminary president Albert Mohler asks with alarm.

His online column today puts his concern over the decline of religious denominational ties in New England in historical context.

After all, this is the region the Protestant faithful settled and were later joined by waves of Catholic immigrants. Now, their religious influence is losing sway and there’s a marked increase in the number of people — one in three or four in much of New England– who claim no religious identity. With this change comes efforts such as the current campaign to legalize gay marriage in several New England state legislatures, Mohler says.

Mohler frets that New England will lead the nation down the path already taken in western Europe where …

Christian moral reflexes and moral principles gave way to the loosening grip of a Christian memory. Now, even that Christian memory is absent from the lives of millions.

In recent decades, the Pacific Northwest had the distinction of being the nation’s most secular region. But the Pacific Northwest was never so highly evangelized as New England. In effect, New England is rejecting what the Pacific Northwest never even knew …

New England was the cradle of colonial America. Is it now the cradle of America’s secular future?