Scott Hahn on the connection between Benedict XVI and Celestine V

He stopped off in Aquila, Italy, and visited the tomb of an obscure medieval Pope named St. Celestine V (1215-1296). After a brief prayer, he left his pallium, the symbol of his own episcopal authority as Bishop of Rome, on top of Celestine’s tomb!

via The Sacred Page: Scott Hahn on the Pope’s Resignation.

What? That doesn’t explain everything? Well, click through to read the rest.

I am surprised at this movie, although what Dr. Hahn presents is a rather interesting clue. Regardless, this announcement as given a boon to conspiracy theorists and bloggers alike

I’m going to watch “Genesis to Jesus” with Scott Hahn and Rob Corzine

This looks fantastic….

Catholic Bible Dictionary – Personal Thoughts

 

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This is the third and final installment of my series of posts on the Catholic Bible Dictionary edited by Scott Hahn from Doubleday Religion.  I discussed the author and contents.  I have noted throughout that this dictionary potentially fills a gap in Catholic Biblical resources.  However, this would mean little if the quality was poor.  Here I will give my reaction.

Perhaps the best thing that I can say from the outset is this is a book I will recommend to my students.  I currently teach seminarians, those preparing for the diaconate and interested lay people.  This is a book that I believe will be beneficial for them in parish ministry contexts.

The articles on the Biblical books are expertly written and helpful.  They include all the information that one expects in these kinds of articles – author, date, outline, etc.  The articles focused on issues related specifically to Catholicism present the Biblical material without being apologetic in tone – the article on the Eucharist is an excellent example.  The topical entries also present the Biblical material in its complexity.  For instance, the articles on women and slavery in the Bible do not gloss over the fact that these texts come from a different time and culture and may present difficulties from a modern perspective.

The selection of articles seems fair.  Of course, anyone who studies the Bible academically may think that articles related to their area of research may be lacking in a general resource like this.  But, I think this would be nit-picking.  Decisions must be made about what belongs in and what belongs out.  The Catholic Bible Dictionary does a fair job with these decisions.

The only down side that I would note is that, though the dictionary does not come across as apologetic in most places, the scholarship does seem overly conservative in a few spots where I believe more latitude exists. As an example, the article on inspiration deals with “verbal plenary inspiration”, giving arguments for this view without noting arguments to the contrary (i.e. if God was that concerned about exact words why do we end up with significant text critical issues in place like Jeremiah and Job? – among a couple other arguments).  I am no theological liberal, but I think the treatment in the dictionary could present more fully the other side of an issue like this one.

This critique is not fatal to the dictionary. Considering the breadth of material in a dictionary of this kind, I would be very surprised if there was nothing to say in critique.  I might even be a little suspicious of someone who had nothing to say in critique.  As I stated from the outset, I plan to recommend this book to my students.  I also recommend it to those readers of this blog looking for a good general dictionary of the Bible.  It would likely be better received by Catholic readers, but I think there is plenty there for readers of a variety of different backgrounds to benefit from.

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I’m going to tell everyone that I disagree with Scott Hahn

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Doesn’t mean that I actually do, however…

I’ve agreed with his view of sola scriptura, sola fide, and covenant theology (at least mostly for the latter). I am wrestling with his typological argument on Matthew 16.17-19. I like the fact that he is clear about his struggles and honest about his positions. He knew that he could no longer pastor a church feeling the way he did. That is admirable. It is also admirable that he didn’t stop when he realized that his questioning may in fact lead to a lot of heartache.

I don’t agree with him about everything though.

There has been a lot of discussion lately on this blog about Mary, which I appreciate. Let us dialogue, if nothing else.

There was a time in which I denigrated her, claiming that the Catholics worshiped her. She was, after all, just a woman.

No, actually, she was a young teen, dirt poor, oppressed and pregnant. She was a Jew too.

But Luke says that she was the most blessed of all women, for all generations. I understand then, the adoration, but not the veneration – which is not worship – of Mary. I am going to call it a big difference to make sure I remain safely Protestant though. But, I understand Scott’s explanation of it on p67-69.

I like the fact that he is grounding his exploration in the Text. I don’t agree, completely, with his dates on the assembling of the Canon. We did have a New Testament before the late 4th century, although the Councils did ‘approve’ it. This is something which Protestants need to understand, of course. There was a time when we didn’t have a Canon – no inspired text, no infallible text. No Chicago Statement either.

And, I will have to investigate this notion of sola dei verbum. Scripture is prime, always, but by itself it is not the Word of God. The issue, however, is that we do have an anarchy of beliefs. There is no central authority to establish doctrine. That is, I do agree, that we have thousands of denominations, sects, and cults because no one council remains to guide the faithful. Do we let the magisterium of scholasticism decide?  Think about about many sects broke off of John Wesley’s initial group (from the Methodists, to the Wesleyans, to the Pentecostals)… or how many Baptist sects we have… This is where Scott and I might find the most common ground. Sola (and the more so, solo) Scriptura is illogical and must itself be proved from outside the Scriptures. Therefore, there must be something – right? – that guides the interpretation of Scripture…

Of course, the question remains – is a central authority needed in determining everything? Yes, Jeremy, the Church is described as a Kingdom, but it is described in other ways as well. What if the centralized authority wasn’t really needed? Can we find, in Scripture, the idea of a centralized authority being developed for the ‘New Testament Church?’

Scott, you are giving me a headache. Of course, it sounds like that he was busy giving his friends and mentors – and his wife – headaches as well.

I think that I’m going to have to read some Geoffrey Wainwright after this…

 

Catholic Bible Dictionary – Contents

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This is the second main installment of my review of the Catholic Bible Dictionary edited by Scott Hahn from Doubleday Religion.  In this post, I will give an overview of the contents of the dictionary.

As an overarching statement, the Catholic Bible Dictionary is a general Bible dictionary.  So, if you are looking for a comparison, think New Bible Dictionary or Harpercollins Bible Dictionary in terms of length and types of articles.  Don’t think Anchor Bible Dictionary or IVP Bible dictionary series.  It contains general articles about the Bible (i.e. introductions to Biblical books) and topics related to the Bible (i.e. the Dead Sea Scrolls).

Against this background, there are a couple more things that can be said about the contents.  First, this Bible dictionary is geared toward Catholics, so, for example, in addition to articles giving general introductions to Biblical books, the dictionary has a number of articles about scriptural matters that are of particular interest to Catholics.  There is an article of substantive length on the Eucharist.  I haven’t surveyed a wide number of other general Bible dictionaries, but it is difficult for me to imagine them giving that much space to the Eucharist.  Second, in the articles that deal with other topics related to the Bible, such as inspiration, there are abundant references to Catholic documents, like encyclicals and statements written by the Pontifical Biblical Commission.

Now, this type of Bible dictionary has its pros and cons.  Since it is a general dictionary it is going to be most advantageous for the general reader.  In fact, when I received this book, I had in mind my seminary students, who are not specializing in Biblical Studies, and undergraduates, who might be discerning the diaconate or might be catechists in church parishes.  The articles in this dictionary seem to be geared toward this audience.  If a priest is preparing a brief homily for weekday mass or an RCIA catechist is preparing a short scripture reflection for their group’s dismissal, this dictionary will provide good general background for the scripture passages in question and help them to ground their homily or lesson contextually.

The down side is obviously the flip side of this general focus.  If you are an expert in Biblical Studies, you might appreciate a general dictionary as a starting point.  But, most likely, it is going to leave you somewhat wanting, as it will not go into the level of detail that you would like in a dictionary article.  Thus, these are the kinds of resources that you might like to have on your shelf to recommend to students or members of your church; however, for more substantive treatments, you are going to look elsewhere.

To conclude, I would reiterate something that I have said from the outset.  This dictionary really does fill a gap among Catholic resources on the Bible.  To date, I don’t know of any other modern Bible dictionary that does in a Catholic context what seems quite common in Protestant contexts – New Bible Dictionary, Holman Bible Dictionary, New International Bible Dictionary, etc.  So, this dictionary continues to look like it would be at the top of my list of resources that I might recommend to Catholics who have a general interest in the Bible.

I will post the final installment of this review shortly, where I will give my evaluation of the contents …

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Struggling with the Typological Argument for Matthew 16.18-19

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The question last week was to take a perspective on Scripture and examine it. I chose the Catholic on on Matthew 16.18-19. I shouldn’t have. I’ll be honest – I do see Matthew as a typological author. So, I have struggled with this one. It is by far, my least enthusiastic assignment. But, alas, it is an honest one. How would you answer?

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I am responding to Catholic interpretation on Matthew 16.18. Here, here, and here.

Matthew 16.18-19 is a substantial verse upon which to base the primacy of Rome upon for the Catholic.  It was a verse which we, in my previous fundamentalist sect, was required to memorize and if possible, during preaching, bring it up. Here, I am faced with the fact that another interpretation is offered, one in which Rome is declared, through Peter, to be the Rock. For me, it was always my previous sect. To be frank, my hesitancy about calling anyone one group the ‘it group’ is based upon, in part the experiences of the past, the reasoning against such a viewpoint, the tradition of differences which allowed various groups to co-exist and Scripture which doesn’t seem to point to one central locale for the one, true church. Hahn and others, however, believe that this portion of Scripture refers distinctly to the Roman Papacy.

Hahn’s viewpoints are biblical. He sees Matthew’s gospel as one of fulfillment and lapping over the brim with typology. I agree and have agreed for a while now, but where I might would disagree is on the fact that the Pope is not the Prime Minister of the Kingdom of God. While I believe that the connection between the two passages is evident, we have a host of other passages to consider, as well as Matthew’s setting apart of Old Testament passages. For ‘prophetic’ passages, God is seen giving to David or his son the rule of Jerusalem in the realized eschatology. But in Isaiah, we see that a Prime Minister is given the power. Yes, this may allude to the foundation on which the modern papacy sits, but was this what Christ was really speaking about, especially in light of the over passages in which the singular was used for the plural or when in John 20.21-23, the same power given to Peter in the singular was given to the Apostles in the plural?

Further, much is made of the renaming of Peter which mean pebble whereas the rock means rock mass. It wasn’t Peter himself which the rock was, but Peter’s revelation. And, if we are to take a canonical look, we find that the same authority, albeit in a much more spiritual form, is given to the Apostles as a whole in John 20.21-23.

Yet, I am finding that many of my answers here are solidly apologetic for Protestantism. I am not in favor of solidly apologetic answers. I am not sure how I will struggle with this issue, as I have told my dear Catholic friend that I disagree with the centralized hierarchy of Rome, although I admit the changes as suggested in Vatican II, if they were ever fully carried out, would be an enticement to be Catholic. Here, though, I am struggling with Hahn’s suggestion that Matthew is writing typologically. Yet, to that I question why in Acts we do not see Peter’s primacy suggested. Further, even in the early Church, we do not see the primacy of Peter suggested, not at least for a few centuries. Even then, both Cyprian and Irenaeus made their own apologies against the primacy of Peter, with one under the rule of Rome!

I am struggling with this one.

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Catholic Bible Dictionary – Author

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This is the first main installment of my review of the Catholic Bible Dictionary edited by Scott Hahn.  My first impression is that the dictionary does fill a gap in Catholic Biblical scholarship, but more on that in a later post.  In this post, I’ll give a little background on the author.

My first encounter with Scott Hahn was in a Bible study being held in my church parish when I had recently returned to the Catholic Church.  It was his study on the Gospel of John, which our church had an audio copy of.  This was a bit of a mixed experience for me as it was an awkward experience of a Bible study.  In the tradition I had previously been a part of, we had a live human teacher.  But, in this class, we listened to the audio recording and would pause it from time to time for discussion.  That experience was different enough that I really didn’t run out and buy any Scott Hahn books, though at the time I was also reading mostly linguistics books for my dissertation anyway.

Eventually, I did pick up his Covenant and Communion at the Baker Book House in Grand Rapids, MI.  It was on clearance, since I suppose all those Calvinists in Grand Rapids didn’t have much use a book about Pope Benedict’s theology ;-) (I mean that entirely in jest.  I was in Grand Rapids at Calvin College for a conference on the use of Bible software in the classroom and pastorate and had an absolute blast).  At any rate, I was impressed with Covenant and Communion and eventually picked up The Lamb’s Supper (another book put out by Doubleday Religion).  This turned out to be one of the best popular level books I’ve read on the Book of Revelation.  Considering the positive experience I had with those two books, I have high hopes for the Bible dictionary, which have been affirmed to some extent as I’ve been working through it.

Scott Hahn’s educational background includes a BA from Grove City College with a triple major: Theology, Philosophy and Economics.  He has an MDiv degree from Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary and and PhD in Biblical Theology from Marquette University.  He currently teaches theology and scripture at the Franciscan University of Steubenville.  His list of publications is pretty incredible, including a considerable number of academic articles and popular level books.  And, his work is a staple among many American Catholics

For more info on Scott Hahn, you visit HERE for his CV.

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Is Isaiah 22:15-25 in Matthew’s mind at Matthew 16.18-19?

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For an assignment this week, I am using the Catholic perspective on the above mentioned verse. Figured it’d be fun. Didn’t know just how fun, tho…

15 This is what the Lord Sabaoth says: Go into the priestly chamber, to Somnas the treasurer, and say to him: 16 Why are you here? What do you have here, that you have cut out a tomb here for yourself and made for yourself a tomb on the height and inscribed a tent for yourself in a rock? 17 Look now, the Lord Sabaoth will hurl away and wipe out a man, and he will take away your robe 18 and your glorious crown 18 and throw you into a great and immeasurable land; there you shall die. And he will make your fair chariot a disgrace and your ruler’s house something trampled down, 19 and you will be removed from your office and from your position.

20 And it shall be on that day that I will call my servant Eliakim the son of Chelkias 21 and will clothe him with your robe and give him your crown, and I will give your power and office into his hands, and he shall be as a father to those who dwell in Ierousalem and to those who dwell in Ioudas. 22 And I will give him the glory of Dauid, and he shall rule, and there shall be no one to contradict him. 23 And I will make him ruler in a secure place, and he will become a throne of glory to his father’s house. 24 And everyone who is glorious in his father’s house, from small to great, will trust in him, and they will hang over him 25 on that day. This is what the Lord Sabaoth says: The man who was fastened in a secure place will be removed and will fall, and the glory that was on him will be taken away, for the Lord has spoken. (Isaiah 22:15-25 NETS)

Dr. Scott Hahn supposes that Jesus has this as a backdrop in Matthew 16.18-19. I’ll post my thoughts sometime this week, but I am interested in your point of view.

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Luther in Reverse

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The title of this post comes from the phrase in Scott and Kimberly Hahn’s book which sorta made me laugh out loud. As you know, we are reading this book, my wife and I, during our Lenten fast this year. Why? Well, some of us have a real negative view of Rome and Catholics, so I have decided to absorb some of that violent rhetoric and in some way maybe perform a little penance for all of those times I have spoken about Rome without knowing exactly what I was talking about.

This fourth chapter deals with Hahn’s continued (re)searching about his favorite subject, the Covenant. He is led along the path and made to address some of his anti-Catholic views. You know, there is a different between being Protestant and being anti-Catholic. Scott was anti-Catholic.

Of course, some of this made me stop. His move to weekly communion was one of those times. For me, this is preferred. I do get excited about the sacraments, actually, and find that the two given to us mean more to me today than they did yesterday. This leads me to the second slap, the one on page 48. For all intents and purposes, I stopped breathing. I coughed a bit. It sort of describes what I talk about on some days, when I am not talking about rhetoric. It was when Kimberly told Scott that all he spoke about was ‘sacraments, liturgy, typology and the Eucharist.’ Yeah, I get that too. I also like to focus on the Covenant.

And, one more thing which led to a discussion between my wife and I, about sola scripture. The moment you hold a bible in your hands, you validate Tradition. You get that, right? The point is, is that Tradition led to the assembling of the books, minutely and corporately. It led to the assembly of the canon. If you don’t think so, what canon are you hold? How many books? What about your Old Testament? How does it differ from the Jewish or other canons out there and what is the theological statements made by this canonical arrangement? When you come to realize that so much of Christian doctrine is bound up on Tradition, you cannot easy hold to sola scriptura as you did before and when you realize this, you can no longer be as anti-Catholic as you were before, at least your stance cannot be that they have expanded doctrine away from Scripture. If you study the text, you’ll see that often times, the most cherished doctrines were only seeds in the New Testament and only later brought out, progressed and instituted by Tradition.

I did find it interesting his struggle with this issue. Sola Scriptura is in of itself a Tradition.

But, equally so, one cannot and must not abandoned the fact that Scripture is first and primary in the foundation of our doctrine. So too reason and experience and yes, even Tradition. You know, the Wesley Quadrilateral.

You and I both know how this is going to turn out, but it is interesting to watch it unfold. So far, I agree with him. I do think that he is grappling with issues that many do, and all should. Doesn’t mean, Jeremy, that in the end, when you grapple with them, that I will end up Catholic – you might end up Methodist – but at the very least, we should be less anti-Catholic and more willing to grapple with the fact that Tradition plays a large part in the development of Christian Doctrine and Practice.

In the Mail – Catholic Bible Dictionary

I’ve actually received two books in the mail this week that I am super, super excited about.  The first of them is the Catholic Bible Dictionary edited by Scott Hahn from DoubleDay Religion.  I saw the title and just from that felt like this book could fill a real void in Catholic Biblical scholarship – a good, up-to-date, one-volume dictionary of the Bible that is accessible to the general reader.  In particular, I wanted to see if it would be something that I could recommend as a good reference volume for the seminarians that I teach.  Thanks to DoubleDay for sending along a copy!

I’ll be beginning to work through this text soon, but in the meantime, here is the publisher’s description:

More than a generation has passed since the appearance of the last major Catholic Bible dictionary. It has been a fertile generation for biblical scholarship, an eventful time for biblical archaeology, and a fruitful time for the Church’s interpretation of the Bible. It is time for a new resource.

Scott Hahn, internationally renowned theologian and biblical scholar, has inspired millions with his insight into the Catholic faith. Now he brings us this important reference guide, written specifically for Catholics, which contains more than five thousand clear and accessible entries and covers a wide range of people, places, and topics. From Genesis to Revelation, the whole of salvation history is presented and explained in smart, easy-to-understand prose.

Catholic Bible Dictionary is an invaluable source of information, insight, and guidance for Catholics and others who are interested in enriching their understanding of Sacred Scripture. Scott Hahn draws from two millennia of scholarship to create an accessible and comprehensive tool for deeper and more rewarding biblical study.

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Thoughts so far on Rome Sweet Home (1)

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My wife and I have been reading the book by Scott and Kimberly Hahn regarding their conversion to Catholicism. We decided to do this as part of our Lenten reflection and time with each other in response to the recent discussions in our community. So far, we have only gotten to the point where they made it past the issue of contraceptives. Well, they made it there, but we didn’t.

But first, let me state why I think reading books like these are important. Why? Because it makes us address our own supposed steadfastness in our own current faiths and traditions. Sometimes, like with this book, it makes us address our own Catholic bigotry, reliving the conspiracy theories, the end of the world theories in which Rome is Babylon and all other churches are her daughters with blasphemous names. Good times! But, we should have to deal with those who are so steeped in their on own dogma and doctrine but eventually find themselves in that which they despised.

Why?

Scott’s story is one like many Americans. He was raised culturally Christian but only later came to the Faith. I note neither Scott nor Kimberly (who was raised with real faith) dismisses any of their conversion experiences or lives of faith led before they joined Rome. They was Reformed and heavily so. It wasn’t until he started to read the text for himself, that he came to a different conclusion. Admittedly, I would agree with his view of Justification. I know, I’m a heretic, but honestly, if you are going to burn me for something, don’t let it be for anything so simple. I’ve got loads of heresies to tell you about.  Scott doesn’t see neither himself or the Reformed tradition as heretical; instead, he seems Luther as wrong on that issue. No biggie. He can still continue to even preach in a Presbyterian Church with his heart full of heresies. We haven’t really gotten any further. If you are reading the book, then you’ll know where we are at.

His Catholic bigotry is pretty full on. I mean, being raised in a more conservative home, Catholics were the devil’s minions. Catholics were worse off than Jews, Muslims, and Baptists. As a matter of fact, for the most part, they were behind saving anyway, so why bother? At least Hahn is honest in his, and I believe, if we were equally honest, we’d agree with him in that our anti-Catholic views are not really based on Catholic doctrine so much as they are based on what we’ve been told about Catholic doctrine and practice. I remember my wonderful grandmother who in a moment of anti-Catholicism, spewed some pretty vile stuff about them one day. That has stuck with me for a while, and frankly, in my youth, I considered her saved because of her feelings to Rome! How does this play in John 17? Anyway, it is refreshing to read Hahn acknowledge his bigotry and to know that I am not alone.

His take on the covenant of marriage and the use of contraceptives, while theological is not to my theological or practical uses. There are a lot of ‘other side of the’ issues to what he is saying, but I also understand his view of covenant (over all) and have pretty well come to see that for myself along the way. Further, as I said, I support his view of Justification because I believe it is (more) Scriptural. Sola Fide is hardly purely Scriptural, but then again, neither is Sola Scriptura. Let me say that when I say ‘purely Scriptural’ I mean of course, that at least Sola Fide is Scriptural, but unless you read all of Scripture, you’ll be left with something that Steve Anderson preaches which is that all you have to do is to believe, nothing else, and you are set for life. I do not believe that. I believe that we grow in Grace and Holiness and that Faith, any faith, is dead if there are no works. I can affirm Sola Gratia and Solus Christus and yes, Soli Deo Gloria. The central issue then is Sola Scriptura. The question which keeps coming back to my mind simply is whether or not there is historical evidence of the canon descending from heaven, or if it took years of Tradition to affirm our biblical canon? Go with the latter, because it’s true. Canon was affirmed by Tradition. To completely remove Tradition (and no, I don’t agree with all Traditions under the banner of Christian) is to remove the basis of much of the early Christian faith. I mean, the (two of the) Evangelists wrote from Tradition. So can we honestly say Sola Scriptura (although I suspect that for many, what they really mean is Solo Scriptura) is the true method of the Church? (Not counting the Creeds which we interpret Scripture by, or theology which we interpret Scripture by, or biblical studies or contexts, or hermeneutic structures as well…)

Anyway, just some thoughts here or there about this book.