1. awesome post! Well said, and amen!

    minor typo: “While died” = “While they died”?


  2. So…glad…you are back….to correct….my typos… :)

    Seriously, thanks. While I like the history of the Maccabean period – rough and rowdy Jews stomping the Greeks into the ground, to accept the ‘theology’ as biblical is not the best idea. The Hasideans became the Pharisees, but not even the Pharisees kept the practice of praying for the dead.

    I find it odd that the Jews adopted the Festival of Lights (Hanukkah) but not the Maccabean books themselves. I mean, Christologically speaking, there is nothing here (unlike Wisdom, Baruch, and Sirach) so that is out as an excuse. Further, 1st Maccabees was written in Hebrew/Aramaic…so that’s out as well. Why? I think it’s because of 2nd Maccabeas.


  3. Joel,
    My understanding was that most of the deuterocanonical books were excluded from the Jewish ‘canon’ for the simple reason that Christians accepted them so wholeheartedly. Although, honestly, I can’t remember what I read that gave me this impression.

  4. Adrian Combe

    I was really surprised to see you note all this but then stop short and fail to mention Paul’s obvious parallel to 2 Maccabees 12

    2 Maccabees 12:44

    for if he were not expecting the fallen to rise again, it would have been superfluous and foolish to pray for the dead.

    1 Corinthians 15:29 Otherwise, what do people mean by being baptized on behalf of the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized on their behalf?

  5. Mik'hael

    Excellent breakdown of 2 Macabees 12. I was discussing the validity of the Apocrypha with a Christian not too long ago and they used the text about making sacrificies for the dead as an excuse to disregard the Apocrypha. I used a similar argument as you made that this was a historical account of what the Macabees did after the battle, and the passage doesn’t say if the Most High honored their request or not.


  6. I have heard that about selected books, such as Wisdom and Sirach (there was much contention in the discussion around Sirach).


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