Patristic Carnival XXVII

Welcome to Patristic Carnival XXVII. I want to think Phil, who normally hosts this blog, for the opportunity, rather, the honor and the blessing to host it this month. Since blogging, I have gained a rather deep admiration for the Church Fathers.

Tradition and the Solas:

Marcellino D’Ambrosio, Ph.D. writes Traditions and Traditions. Along those lines, Dr. John Gerstner writes on Sola Fide and The Franciscan Mafia issues their post on The ‘Sola Scriptura’ Myth (Part 1). Wei Hsien asks, perhaps rather re-asks, Who needs Scripture? And for the Scriptures, the unknown author sends a thank you letter to Paul, Athanasius and Tyndale. Not wanting everyone else to have all the fun, the Theophiliacs posts on Inerrancy.

The Western Confucian points us to a post found here which then points us to a post by a Fundamentalist which declares that the Church Fathers are a door to Rome. (As a recovering Fundamentalist myself, the Church Fathers stand as a door to a firmer Christianity.)

Aaron Tayler, at Logismoi, writes on Coleridge’s ‘Imagination’ & Orthodox Patristic ‘Phantasia’.

Phil, the much respected and originator of this carnival, has two submissions this month.

Examining the Fathers

Athanasius graced The Politic Jesus blog twice this carnival session. First, he takes on the Military Industrial Complex and then discusses the Empire of God.

John Sanidopoulos gives us recommended Patristic resources on John the Baptist while David, at Finding the Way to the Heart, posts on Partistic Affirmation of the Sign of the Cross and Msgr. Charles Pope of the Archdiocese of Washington the Martyrs of the Early Church – Proof of the Power of the Cross.

Roger Pearse gives us a lot of material this month, but here are two of the most interesting:

Esteban posts on  πίστις Χριστοῦ with a witness from the Greek Fathers.

James Pate posts this month on the Nestorians and the Monophysites, the Didache on the Prophets, Augustine’s Criterion for Charity, Origen on the Literal Sense, and Augustine’s Scriptural Obscurity.

Perry takes on Alexander and Arius.

Rob gives his canonical perspective on  A Brief Assessment of the Distinction Between “Person” and “Essence” in the Canonical Scriptures. Nearly on the same page, Aaron Rathburn asks, “If the Bible isn’t Trinitarian, should we be?

Fr. Ted gives us Patristic Images of Hell while Taylor Marshall posts on St. Gregory the Great’s views on Purgatory.

Fr. Paul Grankauskas writes that the Old Testament as been fulfilled.

Dave Armstrong writes, The Indwelling of the Holy Spirit: Intrinsically Opposed to the Real, Physical Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist?!?! (Dialogue with a Calvinist)

Andrew Taylor posts on the Early Church’s views on Wealth.

The Ohio Anglican posts on Augustine.

Will posts early church thoughts on female ordination.

The Reformed Reader writes on Patristics and Systematics.

Byran Owens comments that Christians don’t know what they are talking about.

Bobby Grow, at the Bruised Reed, writes on Patristics, Priests and Protestants.

The Pillar and Ground blog has a post on the Absolute Necessity of Water Baptism as taught among the Fathers.

John Chrysostom

Elgreca has a few posts mentioning  one of my favorite Church Fathers – John Chrysostom. Here, on knowledge, and here as a modern commentary. Byzantine, Texas has a timely quote from John while In Communion has a post on several comments on the Beatitudes by the Fathers, including Chyrostom. Liz Kearns has a quote as well from the saint. The OrthoCuban has a scene from Chrysostom vs. the Empress Eudoxia. This blogger has a post on Chrysostom and the suffering members of the body of Christ. Blake White summarizes ministry lessons from Chrysostom.


I have to wonder how Tertullian would have approached blogging? We don’t have him, but we do have some posts this month on him. Michael Bogart starts us off with a brief history of Montantism. The blogger at Full Circle defends the sacrament of Marriage using, among many others, Tertullian. Fr. Ted uses Tertullian’s famous Athens quote as a jumping off point for a discussion on science and religion. Scott has a post on Baptists, Eucharist and History with a mix of Tertullian. Kyrie Eleison posts on the Proto-Credal Statement in Tertullian while Louis quotes Tertullian on the Kingdom of God.


Nick reviews volume 1 of the Ancient Christian Doctrine series while John Anderson reviews the Ancient Christian Commentary series on the second part of Genesis. While not a review, we find a quote of a book by Pope Benedict on Christ, the Apostles and the Church.


The Logos Blog reports that you can use their software title to research the Church Fathers by Topic.

Host Corner:

Not wanting to sully the other fine works of the very fine bloggers, here is my contribution to Patristics this month.

First, I review Ancient Christian Doctrines volume 1 and then followed it up with a series of quotes. I also continued my examination of some of the Arian documents (here, here, and here.) And then I attacked Protestantism. I also ask if biblical interpretation must be literal. Further, here is a post on some of the views on Church Government found in the Fathers. Finally, two quotes here and here.

Joel L. Watts
Joel L. Watts holds a Masters of Arts from United Theological Seminary with a focus in literary and rhetorical criticism of the New Testament. He is currently a Ph.D. student at the University of the Free State, analyzing Paul’s model of atonement in Galatians. He is the author of Mimetic Criticism of the Gospel of Mark: Introduction and Commentary (Wipf and Stock, 2013), a co-editor and contributor to From Fear to Faith: Stories of Hitting Spiritual Walls (Energion, 2013), and Praying in God's Theater, Meditations on the Book of Revelation (Wipf and Stock, 2014).

37 thoughts on “Patristic Carnival XXVII

  1. And for those who ask, Patristics is the study of the Church Fathers – usually from Ignatius (110) to John Damascus (750). It is important, for the Church History and Theology types, to examine them in their context to see how doctrines, such as the Trinity, developed over time.

  2. Oh, glad you responded. I got an email reminder, got here, and realized I forgot to bookmark this page. So many links! These links are great, though. I know Dave Armstrong has some interesting ideas, though I disagree with him a lot and then get slammed by his Catholic readers.

    Can’t wait to go through the links, though I probably can’t do that until tomorrow.

  3. Yes, Joel I read the article you suggested, plus a few… It is good to know that people really do read Tertullian! Would again, that people would read Eric Osborn’s book: Tertullian, first theologian of the West (Cambridge).
    Fr. R.

  4. I am not sure what exactly you are looking for, but here are just a few:

    1 Thess. 5:23 – NIV, NAB – in Irenaeus Against Heresies Book II

    For he will not possess in that case the likeness and appearance of angels, but of those souls in whom also he receives shape; just as water when poured into a vessel takes the form of that vessel, and if on any occasion it happens to congeal in it, it will acquire the form of the vessel in which it has thus been frozen, since souls themselves possess the figure[107]
    1 Thess. 5:23 – NIV, NAB – in Irenaeus Against Heresies Book V

    ); and may your spirit, and soul, and body be preserved whole without complaint to the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.”[30]
    1 Thess. 5:23 – NIV, NAB – in Tertullian Against Marcion Book V

    interpret it as meaning anything rather than the substance of the flesh, (tell me) how is it that the apostle has given certain distinct names to all (our faculties), and has comprised them all in one prayer for their safety, desiring that our “spirit and soul and body may be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord and Saviour (Jesus) Christ? “[725]
    1 Thess. 5:23 – NIV, NAB – in Tertullian On the Resurrection of the Flesh

    ” And as if this were not plain enough, it goes on to say: “And may your whole body, and soul, and spirit be preserved blameless unto the coming of the Lord.”[337]
    1 Thess. 5:23 – NIV, NAB – in Tertullian On the Apparel of Women Book II

    also present themselves to the rising bodies, and will recognise their several places. But nothing can rise except flesh and spirit sole and pure.[70]
    1 Thess. 5:23 – NIV, NAB – in Methodius Discourse V. Thallousa

    Hence it is necessary that the perfect man offer up all, both the things of the soul and those of the flesh, so that he may be complete and not lacking. Therefore also God commands Abraham,[5]

  5. Heb. 4:12 – NIV, NAB – in Clement of Alexandria Stromata Book VII

    But we say that the fire sanctifies[54]
    Heb. 4:12 – NIV, NAB – in Origen de Principiis Book I

    Heb. 4:12 – NIV, NAB – in Origen Commentary on John Book I

    that His mouth had been set by His Father as a sharp sword, and that He was hidden under the shadow of His hand, made like to a chosen shaft and kept close in the Father's quiver, called His servant by the God of all things, and Israel, and Light of the Gentiles. The mouth of the Son of God is a sharp sword, for[161]
    Heb. 4:13 – NIV, NAB – in Tertullian An Answer to the Jews

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