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  1. If I’m not mistaken, McNaughton is actually a Mormon. That would explain a lot.

    Thomas Paine, of course, hated religion in all of its forms. Thomas Jefferson was such a devout Bible-believer that he blacked out the parts of his Bible that he thought weren’t useful.

    Actually, I guess that means that he could be part of the Conservative Bible Project, doesn’t it?

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    1. Polycarp

      Ha! Yeah, I think that the artist is a Mormon – and they hold to a particular peculiar view of the Founding Fathers and the United States, which seems to be spreading to the Evangelicals.

      One of the things that should be the order of the day is to seek to understand people in their context. When the Founders spoke of religion and God, there is a difference between us and them. And further, if they did mean it exactly the same that we do, it in no way means that things do not change.

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  2. Not to state the obvious here, but this picture is just the perfect representation of a Christian America: no people of color.

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    1. Polycarp

      Didn’t even catch that one, Rod. Shame on me.

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      1. It’s okay, Joel. It’s what I do. I sure do wish there was a mentioning or tribute to Native Americans in that painting but I guess they are not full citizens yet.

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        1. Polycarp

          Geez, Rob, just pile it on. Granted, I’m not used to this, but I feel like what little bit I get still was not enough. Yes, it does make my blood boil.

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    2. Joe

      There are at least 2 colored people in the painting, iif you were to open your eyes. A black college student, and a black sodier, who was originally going to be MLK, but the King family refused to allow his image depicted. Ironicly, there ar no colored people on the non believer half of the painting. Funny how some folks only see what they want to see, or not see.

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      1. Polycarp

        Joe,

        First, there is so much wrong in the painting and in separating Americans into believers (which in this case would be Mormons) and non-believers (you know, Christians, and everyone else). Secondly, using a soldier to represent Dr. King is heinous, especially since so many African-Americans were killed in ‘Nam because they could not go to college, etc…

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  3. And the black man that represents the soldier is supposed to be a tribute to the late Reverend Dr. KIng Jr? Does that man know that King was a pacifist? or has the artist not bothered to read anything that Dr. King wrote?

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  4. Rod, I’m pretty sure that the artist never read much written by Thomas Paine, Dr King, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, or about Jesus, for that matter …

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  5. Oh, dear … I read the “Interview” with the artist on the web site.

    He lists “The Five0Thousand Year Leap” as one of the most important books ever written. That’s written by a paranoid loon … and Glenn Beck’s favorite book.

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  6. Now is the time to paint the exterior of your home. It is best to start painting on the sunny side of your home first and the reason for that is because it's likely there is still dew on the shaded side of your home in the morning. Tip: Your house must be perfectly dry in order to start painting.

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  7. Carl Saveus

    Whether the painter was mormon or christian, or atheist or buddhist is not relevant, the facts are what matters,… this is like putting to the Hubble Space Telescope the sigils of Nostradamus and a spread of Claudius Ptolemys Astrology… what a bunch of illiterate morons….

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  8. Oscar

    According to this painting jesus supports religous freedom?

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  9. Oscar

    Why would Jesus uphold a democratic secular document? Basic conservative christian political thought establishes that the human being is sinful devoid of morality. Henceforth he needs god to be restored, this is done by adhering to god’s supposed law and comandments. The problem with this mode of thinking is god is not around to execute his authority. This is where are fellow humuns fill that void, usually by a monarch, religous tyrant, or a small group of economic elites. The founding fathers understood this thats why they created a secular democracy that supports religous freedom along with a strong separation of church and state. The great success of the American experiment causes problems for the christian conservative. How could a group of sinful and fallen humans come together and create a political system that is the envy of the world without god? The triumph of a secular democracy challenges the basic foundation of conservative christian political thought. How do they solve this contradiction? Easy, they simply put Jesus as the author of the constitution, not man. God was behind the whole enterprise. Christians deep down know the wretched history of christia

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  10. Charlie

    Did you even look at the painting? Because if you did you would see that you are wrong.

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