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  1. Good luck Joel, or really find blessings (as you will) obey and follow your own biblical conscience!  Here in reality, is the one, holy, catholic & apostolic CHURCH, always a confessing body to both Old & New Covenant!
    Fr. R.

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  2. Joel,
    Yes, that is a caricature of both!  Ministry is both pastor-teacher, and never making one’s self another person’s conscience!  Only God and His word can do this in reality!  But it is always a spiritual or pneumatological truth, but within the balance of real Christian suffering. We must move beyond triumphalism!
    Fr. R.

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  3. Edward Sisk

    Other Translations of Matthew 23:9

    And call no man your father vpon the earth: for one is your father which is in heauen.
    – King James Version (1611)

    “Do not call {anyone} on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.
    – New American Standard Version (1995)

    And call no man your father on the earth: for one is your Father, `even’ he who is in heaven.
    – American Standard Version (1901)

    And give no man the name of father on earth: because one is your Father, who is in heaven.
    – Basic English Bible

    And give no man the name of father on earth: because one is your Father, who is in heaven.
    – Darby Bible

    And call none your father upon earth; for one is your father, who is in heaven.
    – Douay Rheims Bible

    Mt 23:9 Call no [man] your father upon earth. Another honorary title. The scribes delighted to be called “Abba”, “father”. So the priests of the Roman Catholic Church. So do all who welcome such honorary titles as Rev., Right Rev., Lord Bishop, etc. These are all forbidden. No apostle was ever so called.
    – People’s Bible

    And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father who is in heaven.
    – Webster’s Bible

    And call no one on earth your Father, for One alone is your Father–the Heavenly Father.
    – Weymouth Bible

    Call no man on the earth your father, for one is your Father, he who is in heaven.
    – World English Bible

    And nyle ye clepe to you a fadir on erthe, for oon is your fadir, that is in heuenes.
    – Wycliffe Bible

    and ye may not call [any] your father on the earth, for one is your Father, who is in the heavens,
    – Youngs Literal Bible

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  4. Fr. Robert, I have no problem in being under the submission to the Church leadership, but people have stated that one goes to hell if we disobey. Does that not make the Pastor the mediator and not Christ?

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