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  1. Joel, I thought I was going to agree with you until I read Merritt’s post. But I think he is spot on with this:

    Others claim Mark must resign as pastor of Mars Hill Church. I agree this is probably best. Not because he needs to pay for past sins, but rather because his pattern of behavior indicates to me that he should spend time with some wise counselors who can help him sort through whatever he’s spent his life inappropriately processing.

    But demanding accountability and reconciliation is a far cry from rejecting one’s apology.

    This is a principle and a distinction which needs to be applied in all kinds of relationships, not just in the Driscoll case.

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    1. I have little issue with demanding accountability – but, even then… it is essentially a congregational outfit, right?

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      1. From what I have read recently, they do have a board of accountability including four independent members. But Driscoll has managed to manipulate the situation, forcing two of them to resign which probably means he has a majority loyal to him. So outside accountability is no panacea.

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        1. i have to walk a fine line between personal accountability of those who go there and understanding that they may be trapped…

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  2. I just hope that people will stop quoting his crap about what it means to be a man at me.

    As one of his “Marty Stewarts” — a stay-at-home dad, that is — I have to admit that I’m okay with seeing his popularity fall a bit.

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  3. The key principle of confession (apologies) is that the circle of confession should match the circle of offense. Joel feels that he does not have standing to accept Mark’s apology because Mark has not personally sinned against him.

    I have a different view. Mark is an author and speaker with international influence, a highly visible leader within the Christian community. When Mark acts with a lack of integrity, it harms not just his local church, but it harms the body of Christ wherever he has influence.

    I have friends and family members who reject Christianity because they see it as mean-spirited, judgmental, narrow-minded, etc. They see a Christianity that has more the flavor of the hypocritical Pharisees than the flavor of Jesus. As the Barna survey cited in the book unChristian makes clear, this view of evangelicals is predominant among young adults outside the church. And while many Christians like to protest that these outsiders have the wrong idea about “us,” if we are honest, we have to admit that Christians have earned the bad rap. Mark Driscoll and others similar to him have done a great deal to project this nasty image of Christianity. Even if my family members who reject Christ would not know who Mark Driscoll is, they can very articulately describe the kind of hateful teaching that he and others spread in the name of Christ and cite that as their reason for rejecting Christianity.

    Years ago I bought one of Mark’s books. After about 6 pages I put it down because I was so offended and disgusted by his arrogant, judgmental spirit. I usually donate my used books to a thrift store, but this one I trashed because I did not want the poison of that book to infect another person.

    Mark’s circle of influence is huge. When he betrays the trust of those who have read his books and those who have heard him speak at Christian conferences, his apology needs to extend to all those whose trust he has betrayed.

    Mark has sinned not just against his local church, but against the broader body of Christ. That calls for a public apology.

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    1. Eddy, if Mark issues a public apology and repentance for the sins against the Church – yes, by all means do we extend the grace given to us and forgive him. But, what did his apology really say and who was it for?

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  4. Know More Than I Should
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