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  1. I’m astounded that you could write this and conclude with anything but Jesus. How could you wax eloquent about the shadow without subsequently turning attention to the One whose shadow Moses was?

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  2. Obviously, you haven’t kept up with the blog, Mike. This was for classwork for my Deuteronomy Class. It was about Moses as Prophet, and as I note, Moses in Deuteronomy. Further, I ended the short work noting that Christians disagree with the assumption that the ending of Deuteronomy remaining unexamined.

    Jesus was not in Deuteronomy until the New Testament. If we are to be honest with the text – and indeed, with our classwork, then we should let the text speak for itself first, and then, when we are in our theologizing mode, we can draw Jesus from the Text.

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    1. Indeed, Joel, the spiritual sense must emerge from the literal sense.

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      1. Not long after Jesus’ resurrection, Peter was preaching in the temple area of Jerusalem. As he quoted Deuteronomy and Moses’ reference to a coming prophet that must be heeded, a Pharisee and a Sadducee were standing next to each other in the observering crowd. The Pharisee turns to the Sadducee and says, “This Galilean doesn’t deserve an audience, for he should be letting Deuteronomy speak for itself. Indeed, the spiritual sense must emerge from the literal sense. If he wants to talk about this Jesus he should wait until the proper time and place. You and I know far better than an uneducated fisherman and his itinerant rabbi what Moses was all about.”

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        1. So we can now make up lies? Come on, Mike, surely you understand the need for the literal sense, right? You have read the Epistle to the Hebrews, correct? You do know what actually studying the Text means, right? You do understand the role of classwork, right?

          Come now, Mike, surely you wouldn’t have me to believe that you have no issue with destroying Judaism and the Old Testament to prop yourself up with a simplistic theology, right? You do realize that real biblical interpretation is first honest with the text and then, for Christians, applies to it our hermeneutic which sees Christ, but in such cases where the assignment is to focus on the literal sense, then one must be honest to the text, right?

          Come now, Mike, surely you don’t have to make up slanderous stories and have us think that you are trying to teach us some great spiritual lesson when your authority has already been loosed to the point of nothingness because you insist that you know better, right?

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  3. That you are resistant to celebrating the fact that Moses wrote of Christ (John 5:46) gives some indication as to why your Christianity is unsettled.

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    1. Hahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha oh my….Mike you sure full of yourself, ain’t you? Or, you are purposely ignoring the concept of this article. Shame on you.

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  4. If you’re saying that the Lord Jesus wanted you to avoid mentioning Him in this classwork and article then I retract everything I’ve said.

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    1. What I am saying, mike, is that you are being dishonest to the assignment, and fail to grasp the need for accurate scholarship. As this was a class assignment based on studying Moses in this one book, and not about developing theology, I was honest to the assignment. You are not,m and further, if you cannot separate reading the text as is, and then reading the text under later theological development and understanding via Christ, then you will continue to be dishonest to the Text. I would suggest you read John Chrysostom a bit on how to read any text and then to develop theological meanings. Further, I would suggest that you learn to separate scholarship, studies, and the such from theology. Let’s be honest with the first meaning of the text and then, after we have a secure foundation, build our theology upon that.

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  5. Is theology something that once developed is put on a shelf to be pulled down as needed and left there otherwise…or is a new set of eyes through which we view all of life from that point forward?

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    1. Mike, what part of ‘this was a class assignment focused on understanding Moses as prophet in th book of Deuteronomy’ don’t you get? Sorry, Mike, but I regret that you have missed the point so wide that it is impossible to understand just how far off the mark you really are. What this shows is that you lack serious skills in taking even a blog post and seeking to understand it in the setting which it was first offered. I suggest that before you write anything else against me, you repent and seek to understand the nature of the blog and not to be so presumptuous the next time you seek to engage me. else you in fact appear more foolish than you do now.

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  6. Joel, I have written nothing against you, but only for Christ. I wish you only the best. If I have anything to repent of, it is only of being a poor spokesman for Him. I understand and take your point about the class assignment; I only wish you could have embraced my point of celebrating Him at every opportunity.

    I’ll now retire on this subject as we each seem to be repeating ourselves and you seem to be getting upset. I’ll let whatever you now say be the last word and I won’t respond to it.

    Thanks for interacting with me.

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    1. I am only upset with purposed ignorance. Further, I don’t embrace error, which is what you are peddling here. Again, shame…

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