Mike Bickle and IHOP Plays Down Cult Status

The word ‘cult’ gets tossed around freely these days, like ‘Nazi’, or Christian, but what is going on at IHOP is troublesome to say the very least:

First here:

…..noticed Rev. Bickle’s claim of not one but two trips to heaven and back. I also thought the reporter was remiss in not demanding details. Bickle may be the only man who has made such a journey….

….In view of the many shooting sprees by mentally deranged individuals who said they were directed by God to kill and maim innocent people, I’m turned off by people who, in effect, boast of fireside chats with the Almighty.

Rev. Bickle also claims that he enjoys conversations with God. Now I’ve experienced some emotional epiphanies in my life, but I’ve never heard the voice of God. Neither have any of my friends, most far better Christians than I.

And from here:

The International House of Prayer will host two neighborhood forums for concerned residents to ask questions about the group’s activities.

The first is 7 p.m. Thursday at Grandview High School, 2300 High Grove Road. The other is set for 7 p.m. Tuesday at Hillcrest Community Center, 10401 Hillcrest Road. Invitations were mailed to ZIP codes in south Kansas City and Grandview.

Director and founder Mike Bickle will be present to answer questions about the group’s fast growth and its plans to build a new world headquarters in Grandview. Questions also can be sent ahead of time by calling 877-762-4467.

Residents have wondered about the influx of newcomers and the group’s odd hours, which include a 24/7 prayer center.

If you ‘church’ has to hold neighborhood meetings to explain its activities…maybe, just maybe something could be wrong. (For some of the problems which helped to necessitate this meeting, see here.)

Then, from here:

Leaders of the International House of Prayer met with the public for the second time (we covered the first), and it doesn’t sound like a lot came out of the meeting other than more denials from church founder Mike Bickle that his church isn’t a cult.

KSHB Channel 41 attended the star-studded meeting (Cathy Jolly! John Sharp! Alvin Brooks!). The highlight: Neighbor Carmen Kelly said the kids all seem “brainwashed.”
Kelly said:

“They all kind of talk the same. They speak in monotone. I’ve had some of them follow me around.”

Bickle disagreed.

“If they were brainwashed, then they would be listening to me telling them to stop doing that,” Bickle said. “I’m really against that kind of stuff.”

Good to know Bickle is against his people creepily following people around.

For those of you who may not remember, Mike Bickle, pastor of IHOP, comes from the Kansas City Revival, which would eventually give rise to the likes of the Domionists, including Todd Bentley.

Joel L. Watts
Joel L. Watts holds a Masters of Arts from United Theological Seminary with a focus in literary and rhetorical criticism of the New Testament. He is currently a Ph.D. student at the University of the Free State, analyzing Paul’s model of atonement in Galatians. He is the author of Mimetic Criticism of the Gospel of Mark: Introduction and Commentary (Wipf and Stock, 2013), a co-editor and contributor to From Fear to Faith: Stories of Hitting Spiritual Walls (Energion, 2013), and Praying in God's Theater, Meditations on the Book of Revelation (Wipf and Stock, 2014).

80 thoughts on “Mike Bickle and IHOP Plays Down Cult Status

  1. oh ya scared me to death!  i thought ihop was the international house of pancakes.  what the devil is going on when ihop is in trouble with polycarp??????  whew…

  2. hey i can now read your blog without extra strength glasses
    todd bentley visited ihop this summer – watch this space
    i’ll have lemon with mine

  3. The “wow, i didn’t know that” was presumably referring to my choice of lemon :)
    yes, see latest morningstar video 13.8.09
    yes – very good – the blue is very modern and upbeat

  4. you know whats funny is that no one here has yet to give a BIBLICAL argument as to why Mike Bickle and the house of prayer is a cult. Arguments like . .

    “Rev. Bickle also claims that he enjoys conversations with God. Now I’ve experienced some emotional epiphanies in my life, but I’ve never heard the voice of God. Neither have any of my friends, most far better Christians than I.”

    Calling someone heretical and sinister based of your own personal experiences or lack thereof is foolish at best.

    Its fine to disagree with someone’s teaching on minor points but unless you see them denying/distorting the Person of Jesus (which calling Him the Bridegroom king clearly doesn’t) or any other major tenant then you are out of line. If you’re right and they are truly a cult, then so be it. However, if you are wrong then remember that you will have to give an account for every accusation before the throne of the Living God. You will have to look Jesus in His face and answer as to why you called His servant and His people (however imperfect) whom He loves dearly “dark and sinister” and called HIS work the work of the devil (sounds alot like the pharisees calling the works of Jesus the works of the devil, after which he then said you can blaspheme the Father, and event he Son, but not the Holy Spirit. Interesting connection. Take it for what you will).

    I’m not saying you should never call out false teaching. But before you do make sure that you have solid biblical grounds to call it FALSE and not just different then your own prescribed brand. Be careful what you say about God’s people and His work. Something I have to constantly repent of and be cautious myself (I’ve said things about ministers that I disagree with as well).

    I’ll leave with this word of wisdom the pharisee Gamaliel in Acts 5:38-39

    “38Therefore, in the present case I advise you: Leave these men alone! Let them go! For if their purpose or activity is of human origin, it will fail. 39But if it is from God, you will not be able to stop these men; you will only find yourselves fighting against God.”

    1. Good and true word KenMishima! Know that people hate what makes them uncomfortable. They like their luke warm status because it is comfortable, so anything that calls them out they get their pannies in a bunch over (I know pannies in a bunch is not biblically correct :)) KNOW this. John 10:25-27 states “Jesus answered, I did tell you but you did not believe. The miracles that I do in my fathers name speak for me, but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. My sheep listen to my voice; I know them and they follow me.” You see if you are Jesus’s sheep then he very clearly states that you know his voice and listen to him which means he speaks to people. So I am not sure what Jesus you are following but mine speaks to me like he said he does and he lets his yes be yes and his no be no and is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Also If what going on there at IHOP is that people are getting healed and amzingly good things are happening and they are givign credit to God for his greatness how is that wrong? You are to test what is going on against the character of who God is, not who you think he should be or what society or religion has taught you that God is but what you know God is. So my question is do you even know God?

      1. Not only is it not biblically correct – which for some reason I could see you not caring about – but it is not even spelled correctly.

        So, because you hear voices in your head, you are okay then? Hardly. I am reminded that people who had done miracles in the name of the Lord never knew Him (Matthew 7.21-23). Further, we are told to 1st John 4.1. Finally, John 10.25-27 actually reads:

        Jesus answered them, “I told you, and you do not believe; the works that I do in My Father’s name, these testify of Me. (Joh 10:25 NASB)

        Works are not miracles. Two different words there.

        Okay, so, let’s add up your score card:

        You use a translation which while supports your ideology, is not correct.
        You believe that you are the one hearing the literal voice of Christ
        You think that miracles are the character of God – although Scripture plainly says that even those who use the name of Christ but never come to know Him can do the same thing and we know that the Man of Perdition will come with all manners of miracles as well (2nd Thess 2.9)
        While your grammar is worse than mine, I can assume that you mean that you don’t believe we should test things like IHOP, contrary to Scripture.

        So my question is, what god or spirit are you really familiar with?

    1. What hate would that be, Mike? Hate against false doctrine, against false truth? Hate against people who lead others to hell? You think that is wrong?

  5. 22Then they brought him a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute, and Jesus healed him, so that he could both talk and see. 23All the people were astonished and said, “Could this be the Son of David?”
    24But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebub,[d] the prince of demons, that this fellow drives out demons.”

    25Jesus knew their thoughts and said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself will be ruined, and every city or household divided against itself will not stand. 26If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom stand? 27And if I drive out demons by Beelzebub, by whom do your people drive them out? So then, they will be your judges. 28But if I drive out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.

    Lots of great things that are happening in IHOP. Instead of talking about a group that you know little about, instead pray and maybe get radical yourself and fast for them.

    1. Yeah…

      “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.” (Mat 7:21-23 NLT)

      According to their doctrine, their words, and their actions, IHOP falls under this category.

  6. I was referred to check out IHOP by a trusted friend of mine. But I’ve heard from others to be cautious when it comes to IHOP.
    Don’t know much but just doing my research.

    One thing I wanted to comment was the first statement above which seems to dismiss the possibility of having a conversation with God.

    I have not had a conversation with God nor has God spoken directly to me.
    The extent of my communications has been epiphanies via the Holy Spirit, God, etc.

    But I do recall in a sermon, Tim Keller of Redeemer Presbyterian Church in NYC saying that when he was praying, that one day God spoke to him. And Tim made a joke saying he knows that conservative presbyterian ministers should not be hearing voices, but that he did. And God spoke to him. For those who never heard of him, he’s a reformed presbyterian minister who used to teach at westminster theological seminary.

    So my point is that regardless of what doctrine you follow, I think its important to keep an open mind as long as it’s not refuted by the Bible. And to remember that one of the simple first steps in determining if an organization is Christian is if they believe in the Apostle’s Creed. So far I have found testimonies of personal experiences of a culture that may be a bit too harsh or controlling, but haven’t found anything which theologically seems contrary to the Christianity.

    But I’m just looking around… and no one will probably read this. haha

  7. Stop acting based on fear please, or disagreeing because you don’t understand. God is bigger than what we could ever think. I too used to mask my discomfort of the unknown as “unsound doctrine” myself and all it was doing was trying to compensate for the relationship with God I always wanted. Your intentions are good and God knows your heart, but love is not knocking down a person but edifying them, or honoring them when you don’t agree. I know it doesn’t seem right or natural to us but neither does being born again. It wasn’t natural when Jesus did not fight back when the Pharisees condemned him to death, in fact Jesus even honored their authority when they made that decision. God works in the realm of the unnatural, that’s why it’s called the supernatural. When someone denies that God is not love, that Jesus is not the only way, and that the holy spirit is not working among us when He really is, then that is unsound doctrine. When people are being pointed to the work of God’s love and through that repent, then it is a good thing right? Do you not realize that Satan comes to divide the bride of Christ, and that a kingdom divided cannot stand. Our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities and darkness.
    Please search your heart before posting or responding to my post. I love all through a love that was given to me, but God loves more, more than you love sound doctrine. May God bless you all but more importantly reveal more of His love to your hearts in a powerful way. God is more powerful than those who have unsound doctrine, so trust him. Just say yes to God.

    1. Eli, where is your Scripture? No, Love is telling the truth, and if necessary, with a whip and surrendering people to satan. (Christ and Paul)

      Further you note that ‘unsound doctrine’ is a mask. I wonder what the Apostle Paul would have said to that.

      Do you realize that Satan has ministers of light? That he can perform wonders? That he has false teachers who pretend to be of Christ but lead people astray? Tell me, where is your Scripture?

      If you love God, then get away from IHOP.

  8. Mike Bickle is a false prophet deceiving millions of unsuspecting people. He, along with Rick Joyner are channeling dreams and visions from demonic forces. Mike has been preaching the same ‘messages’ as occultic mediums Jane Lead from the 16th century and Alice Bailey who channeled the New Age from satanic forces for 30 years. Through false teachers like Bickle, Rick Joyner and Rick Warren, the world is doing just as Bailey predicted. The church is becoming Universal (Warren), Occultic (Bickle) and Militant (Joyner) ! Universal in that doctrinal lines are being erased to bring ‘everyone in’. Occultic, in that the Logos, the written word of God is being eradicated in favor of a FALSE Rhema now in the Church. Militant in that the Church is turning against itself. The ‘old wineskins’ are thought of as the Enemy because they adhere to the written word of God ONLY for Truth, and they are ‘in the way’ of the coming Emerging (Fundamental) Global (Charismatic ) One World (Occultic) Church. Enter the “Davidic Wars” prophesied by mystic Jane Lead. The ‘spirit people’ are the “Davids’ and will become more militant in their goal to eradicate the “Sauls”, the non spirit people. BIckle talks often of “Davidic Wars”! Also the militant Elijah List to fight ‘evil’ is also connected.

    Bickles unbiblical sensual “passion for Jesus”, paradigm shift, transition, synergy, prayer walking, and the Harp and Bowl are ALL connected to the occultic agenda to bring in the antichrist, called NEW BEGININNGS! Apostates like Rick Joyner dismiss the Rapture which puts the church on the same bandwagon as the occultics and the world in looking for “the King”. THE FALSE KING! Scripture tells us that Jesus comes as the bridegroom first to remove His church, (I Thessalonians 4:16, 17) then comes back as King at His second coming WITH His church. (I Thessalonians 3:13) Any other “King” coming before, is the Man of Sin masquerading as the Man of Peace the Bible warns about. Bickle also says the ‘no rapture’ means the “church’ will ‘execute judgment during the Tribulation” but it will be the HARLOT CHURCH, not the bride of Christ. (John 16:2) (Revelation 17:6) (Revelation 6:9,10) We are to put on the armor of God and STAND, not fight, but we will have been removed anyway, and will be at the Bema seat of CHrist recieving rewards at this time. (11 Corinthians 5:10) ( But Jesus fights for us, not the other way around! What BIckle does is take what applies to Israel and applies it to the church! The Church, permanently justified in Christ’s blood, I Corinthians 6:11, will not go through the judgment of the Tribulation. The Church is not a militant entity anyway as one of the symbols is the dove, for peace. The symbol now in churches is the eagle, a war bird !

    Also if you investigate any occultic jargon, you will see that Bickles “New Gospel”, “New Jesus”, “New Grace”, “New Rain of the Spirit” “New Song”, “New Hallelujah”, “New Message”, “Fresh” Word of God, “New Manchild”, “New Purpose” all come straight the New Age Movement . Bickle’s “Birthing the global church” is the same as the occultic ‘birthing the One World Church.” Bickle’s Feast of Tabernacles is also the same as the occultic Planetary Pentecost! Bickle’s “Corporate Christ” is the same as the occultic “Cosmic Christ!” Bickles’ Contemplative Prayer” is the same altered state mindset as mystic praying!

    Romans 16:17 tells us to contend for doctrine and avoid those who teach contrary to the doctrine we have learned,” but the TBN crowd says to avoid those who TEACH doctrine and now Bereans are called Heresy Hunters! Also Rick Joyner’s militant push for churches to join “the River” is the same ecumenical River pushed by occultics (Matthew Fox) to form their One World Church. “New Wave of the Spirit” is another New Age term to push for a (false) Rhema to come and inhabit the minds of men so they will follow the antichrist, yet that term is in churches today! But with all of the mantras in the church today replacing hymns, many unbelievers are being prepared for this ‘transformation’ by a false coming Rhema. (New Rain of the Spirit) Alice Bailey even predicted that ‘as more and more demons descend into the minds of men, the church will think its the Holy Spirit” !!! (“A Treatise on the Seven Rays”)

    Also The Bible tells us that the fruit of the Spirit is self control (Galatians 5:22) but Bickle tells us its screaming, fainting, shaking, jerking and changes in skin color!? ! The Bible tells us to be sober (Titus 2) but Bickle promotes drunkeness from the “New Wine” that churches around the world are partaking of. This literally is the world consuming the “cup of abominations” (Revelation 17)…the One World Philosophy that Jesus warned would come.

    Satan is alive and well and is bringing in his kingdom through the Fundamental Emerging
    Church and the Charismatic “Global” church. NOWHERE in Scripture does it say there will be a Global Harvest but rather, the world is getting worse and worse. II Timothy, 4:3 “For the
    time will come that men will no longer endure SOUND DOCTRINE.” Instead of staying within the confines of God’s written word, Bickle uses dreams, visions, trances and anything supernatural for ‘truth’, yet Jesus always said, “It is WRITTEN”. He also said “MANY false prophets would arise, (Matthew 24) using signs and wonders to decieve the world.” Just as Bickle, Joyner and Rick Warren are doing. Its interesting to know that John Wimber said, “Unless a man sees signs and wonders he CANT believe.” (Power Evangelism) But JESUS said, “Unless a man sees signs and wonders, he WONT believe.” John 4:48 God help those who have fallen for these false prophets and doctrines of demons that Timothy and Paul warned us about! “Come out of her, my people…” Revelation 18:4

  9. Mike Bickle says that we must ‘experience manifestations of Jesus’ majesty to move us to repentance and servanthood”, yet Jesus said to look to His WRITTEN WORD, not ‘manifestations’! In II Timothy 3:16, we read, “And ALL Scripture is given by inspiration by God and is profitable for doctrine, reproof, correction and for instruction in righteousness…” Also Jesus said, “SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES FOR THEY TESTIFY OF ME.” John 5:39 but Bickle once again puts the written word of God second to Satanic spirit realm ‘revelations.

    The occultic society, anxious to bring in the antichrist through their agenda “New Beginnings”, knows that false teachers like Bickle are preparing the world to experience a ‘manifestation’, so they are actually preparing a false ‘return of “the Christ” through Satanic means and technology. Constance Cumby discovered this plot back in the 80′s and with the incredible deception that can be accomplished through multi-media 30 years later in 2010, even furthers the realistic scenario that is coming! Jesus said, “If anyone says, here is The Christ, believe him NOT.” Matthew 24:23, yet Bickles push for continued ‘experience’ to find ‘truth’ not only gives the earmarks of him being a false prophet, but also that he is preparing unbelievers to experience the coming deception by the antichrist and false prophet! (Revelation 13:13,14)

    Barbara Aho writes, “New Agers have studied Bible prophecy carefully, especially Matthew 24, and have documented plans to technically stage a “Second Coming,” which would be acceptable to Christians, New Agers, et al. David Bay, Director of Old Paths Ministries, says that these plans have been published in a book entitled, The Armageddon Script, by New Age leader Peter LeMesurier. However, before that event, there will be another supernatural, psychic occurrence: ’…According to Vatican official, Malachi Martin, author of The Keys of This Blood, this event will be most powerfully psychic. The force accompanying this vision will be so powerful it will literally bring the normal activity of the world to a standstill. Men will be so moved that their ‘consciences will cry out with fear.’ . In other words, the entire population of the world will experience a simultaneous changing of their minds…The vision will be preceded by either a loud sound, a bright light…”

    Not content with the sufficiency of the Logos, Bickle uses odd phrases disguised as “words from the Lord”. “God offends the mind to test the heart”, is the kind of Bickle’s non Scriptural double talk deceiving many under his spell. Even today in some charismatic churches, the phrase, “Believe what you see” is being flashed on multi media screens. Instead of Bickle promoting the constant supernatural you would think he would be warning the church today of the FALSE prophets who will, in these last days be decieving millions with signs and wonders and doctrines of demons. The church today has become a venue of occultic happenings. Even Todd Bentley, a Bickle supporter says that “God” told him to stop preaching about Jesus and tell the world about the angel “Emma” which guides him. But in Galatians 1 the apostle Paul called ‘any other angel who comes bearing a different gospel” , “accursed” ! I wonder if these same people would continue to attend Bickle and Bentleys churches if the healings and manifestations didnt continue? People can be healed simply because we PRAY for them. Kevin Reeves book, “The Other Side of the River” explains in detail how he began to compare Scripture against what was happening in his church, and his eyes were opened to the false teachings he had been under for so long.

    Spurned on by his continued thirst for ‘truth’ outside of Scripture, Bickles uses gimmick phrases’ to attract his audiences. But just like his “ONE can happen” referring to the Global Church and a Corporate Christ, they suspiciously align too closely with occultic dialogue and agendas, such as the ONE World Church and the “Cosmic Christ.’ One phrase circulating the ‘spirit’ churches today is the name of an evangelistic venture called , “Speak to the dead.com”. Though the idea is to promote a Christian (alive) witnessing to the unbeliever (dead), it lends itself to the very thing God abhors: necromancy! This dangerous term is leading believers and unbelievers lacking discernment into a Satanic practice! Wouldn’t a better term be “Reaching the lost for Christ”? The world is already comfortable with sorcery but now its in the CHURCH and congregations are completely blinded and complacent to the dangers coming from their pulpits! I pray that anyone who reads this will avoid false teachers such as Bickle, Joyner, and Jones who give homage to the supernatural instead of the LOGOS ALONE for Truth and who are EXACTLY the men the Bible warns us about! “…and some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils.” I Timothy 4

  10. Well BIckle and the other Latter Rainists are using seemingly innocent terms to further occultic agendas. The term “Awakening’ to the occultic, means when the world accepts the “New Spirituality’ of Unity and the One World Church is “birthed”. To the ‘spirit churches’, this term means the “Global Church” is birthed. They are one in the same. I prefer to call it the “BLINDING”. Look at these following quotes and see how the occultics and these church leaders are on the SAME path.

    Barbara Marx Hubbard, NEW AGE Advocate “The Revelation”

    “Finally, you start the transition…where millions of members of the body Awaken to their
    power to be natural Christs…”

    Leonard Sweet, NEW AGE Advocate Soul Tsunami, 1999
    God is birthing the greatest spiritual Awakening in the history of the church.”

    Rick Joyner, Charismatic “Prophet” The Harvest, “Joel’s Army”

    “What is about to come upon earth is…another Awakening…This vision was given to
    radically change the very definition of Christianity.

    Francis Frangipane, Charismatic
    “The Days of His Presence”

    “The Spirit of the Lord is moving…“The March for Jesus” and the 750,000 Promise Keepers, …
    the stage is set for…the greatest Awakening of this century.”
    Jeremy Rifkin, NEW AGE Author “The Emerging Order”

    “Its possible that a great religious Awakening will take place.”

    Rick Warren, Purpose Driven Life P.E.A.C.E. Website, Saddleback Church

    “Its…the beginning of a New Awakening…”

    “4-Him”, Christian Musicians “Great Awakening” (Benson Records)

    “There is a stirring in us, a great Awakening begins”.

    Whats disturbing is that the ‘700 Club’ recently had New Ager Jeremy Rifkin on as a guest! So the deception continues… I pray that anyone under these false teachers RUNS back to the Logos, the WRITTEN word of God for their ONLY Truth. As the Harlot Church looms even closer, it means that the True Church will soon be raptured, but its sickening to see so many once sound teachers actually preparing the world for the Kingdom of the antiChrist. Matthew 7:22,23 Jesus said “And many shall say, Lord, Lord, havent we cast out devils in your name? But I will say, “I never knew you.”

  11. BIckle and Chuck Pierce are into ‘calling down angels from heaven to help in warfare” but WHERE in Scripture did the disciples or apostle Paul or Moses ever “call on angels’ to come help them fight ‘evil’? Nowhere in Scripture does it say that the purpose of angels is to assist mankind at his behest. These ‘angels of Bickle and Pierce are the SAME demons called solar god by medium Alice Bailey who said they would come down to enter men’s minds. Her exact quote was, “As more and more demons enter the minds of men, the church will think its the Holy Spirit” ! Once again the purpose of the church is NOT to fight. The True bride of Christ is not a militant entity but the false church is becoming one because of men like Bickle and Rick Joyner who promote “Davidic Wars” against the “Sauls” (those who are the old wineskins who go by the written word of God only for Truth) Its so interesting that Jane Lead, mystic from the 16th century predicted these “Wars of David” have to happen to cleanse the earth of anyone holding up the One World CHurch! So Bickle’s ‘angelic forces’, contemplative prayers, spirit realm connections and his ‘global church’ are all occultic and yet his followers are so blinded as to what he is teaching. Just today i was told by a Bickle follower that “I was in alot of trouble” because I was warning people of his doctrines of demons. Pray that these people will get away from these false teachers and find a good Bible church that teaches the written Word of God as the only absolute Truth!

  12. way to go! your reply was full of wisdom and very refreshing! it calmed the anger that was rising in me as i was reading people attack a Godly man based on their OPINIONS! in the end times, christians will persecute other christians!

  13. Jennifer, if you think Bickle and the Bunch is anything close to godly (ungodly doesn't count as godly) then you are sadly misinformed as to what godly is.

  14. The slow demise of “The Daily Bread”. In 2006 the Daily Bread gave creedence to Henri Nouwen a New Ager. Then through contributing editor Phillip Yancey who is too closely aligned to the Catholic Church, accolades were given to Brother Lawrence, a Carmelite Monk who promotes pantheism and mystic prayer. Purpose Driven Life, which has occultic roots has also been applauded in this once sound devotional booklet. Then to add to these horrors, i recently read where Leonard Sweet was quoted! A New Age One World Church promoter! However, since Dr Dehaan's son Martin has been frequenting Rick Warren's ecumenical, non Biblical conferences, I see why the Daily Bread is on its downward spiral. “And in the last days, men shall no longer endure sound doctrine.” II Timothy 4

    1. Thanks for the posts. I’ve been trying to figure out what exactly is being taught at IHOP. I had a few songs I liked by Misty Edwards and then discovered she was the worship leader there, so I watched a few services. As I started listening to more of her songs, some of her lyrics just seemed strange to me. “Take me up in the Spirit”? What does that mean exactly??… “God is wooing me into the dark”??? (something “spontaneous” from The Prayer Room) Oh yeah, and all the lover/lovesick/kisses from God stuff. I just kept feeling more and more uncomfortable with it all. I guess it more makes sense, knowing what they’re teaching. Anyways, she definitely has a different kind of sound. I guess that’s what I was drawn to initially. It’s too bad her talent’s being wasted to promote their messed up doctrines.

  15. I love the way you twist the scriptures and are so arrogant and prideful, you truly are a prophet fit for this age. with love – anonymous

  16. I just want to tell you that everything negative that everyone recently has mentioned and even past is true. I have been part of the internships at IHOP for over 3 years and I do thank God that my family got me out of there. I was not part of the leadership but saw enough to know that there is something wrong with them. I also know that many of the pastors in the area have just had it with Bickle. I went to several churches in the area since I was not getting the Cross message at IHOP it was all about Bob Jones, prophecy and dreams and what they felt the dreams meant and their interpertation of the bible. It was all foolishness I paid alot of money a total of over 18 thousand dollars to that place along with all my tithing….everytime I made some money I would be told to give it away or I would run into classmates that need the money since they had no food. I lived in one of their apartment with 2 bedrooms with 6 adults it was just wrong but I had to I was really not encouraged to be part of the program and live on my own. If you do particular programs you have to live on site. All of it was very controling. Lou Engle is just out there and wacked. I tink there is something seriously wrong with him and everyone that adores him and follows him they don’t even think for themselves they just do what he does. I knew that from the start so I tried to stay away from him, but it is hard since he often preaches. When the awakening happened it was odd too, I think most people knew people were faking it, I even did sometimes since they put the pressure on some of us that we had to feel something. Alot of mind control, not that you had to do something or they would kill you but they would alient you and make you feel like you were shit. Very clicky, Not sure if that is how you spell it but so not Jesus at all. I see all that now being in a healthy church and real community. That is another thing no real community in that place. It is like they are all glassy eyed. I was too, just like zombies following eachother round and round and not growing in Christ at all from glory to glory. Lots of money goes into that place thousands and I think probably millions but the kids (us) never saw it and we had to always beg for support. I have been on a mission trip to Africa since returning home and that was like night and day. The mission trips I was on through IHOP was nothing like I was on recently. We were building huts and really slept in the wilderness and were real missionaries at IHOP many even stayed at peoples homes or motels, I did as well everything we needed was provided – nothing like real missions work. Just stupid. I never could see asking for money to pray. I pray more now than I did then and I can’t imagine asking anyone to give me money or support so I can pray, Anna never did that. Why should we. Now I see clearly but I thank my parents for having their heads on straight and pulling me out before it really screwed me up.

  17. Satan does not like what Bickle and IHOP are doing for God and in the name of Christ. Hence, articles like this one. Yes, Christians do both talk to and hear from God. When you’re born-again you become “conscious” of God in a new and personal way. Until then, you’re dead in your sins and trespasses, and headed straight to hell. You don’t have to go that way, though. God forgives every sinner who’s willing to repent, and believe in and follow Jesus Christ. What’s stopping you?

  18. I speak from experience. Satan hates Jesus and hates Christians who take him seriously. Christians willing to lead and go public with their faith have to endure hostility from unbelievers and other Christians. That hostility is incited by the devil. People walking with God know this. I don’t know everything about Mike Bickle but from listening to his teachings on line he very much impresses me.

    1. so essentially, by your rule, any group who calls themselves ‘Christian’ and is attacked, regardless of the reason, is being attacked because they love Jesus…

      Well, that’s stupid

  19. Look, we are called to “test the spirits”. You clearly haven’t test this spirit because you are very wrong. Jesus is referred to as the bridegroom by his own words, and his apostles. He is called many things, our kinsman redeemer, our messiah, our Ancient Father, our Mighty Counselor, etc. Read your word and continue in your walk. If you truly believe its wrong (without having ever been to an IHOP service) then pray about it and for your fellow brothers.
    The problem with our church today is it is divided which Paul spoke HARSHLY against (1 Corinthians 10-12 and so on). We have failed as a church overall and thank our Lord for grace and his love and his knowing we wouldn’t succeed or else his son wouldn’t have to come back. But in God’s eyes we have also succeeded because if only one person got saved, it is worth it God’s eyes. Amen?
    My point, do not further divide and accuse our brothers on our own doctrine, but on Gods. We need to get back to what the word says not what people say, or the world says. We also need a relationship with our Father, the Holy Spirit is within all of us (he lives in all of us) and we need to access it and glorify it in our lives!
    I pray for all of you and pray for me in my faults as well

    1. If you think that IHOP is correct, then there is no real hope for you. Come back when you are ready to discuss this. Otherwise, you need to seek God – away from the den of devils called IHOP

  20. And also, IHOP is so right on as a church goes its funny to here your accusation. Im not bringing you down, I’ve been wrong about many things and im telling you out of love go to a conference, go to a service. Talk to the leadership there. Find out for yourself and you will be amazed at how amazing and beautiful it is there. Perfect? It could never be, but finding a fault I haven’t yet (except the parking)

  21. Just looking at this has brought pain to my heart of how you call IHOP sinister, dark, a den of thieves. Have you ever been there? I mean if you have never been there, I don’t think you have the right to judge against IHOP. I mean even though there has been one person here who commented that has gone to IHOP for an internship, if you come here, you will see the testimony that IHOP is not a cult by the lifestyles of these people. While you babble on that this is a cult, there is NO proof that this is a cult. A cult has 7 things. It does not let the people think for themselves, IHOP really lets people think. MIke Bickle has encouraged many times that when he speaks, don’t take it for his word but to actually check the scriptures to see if he is correct. And if he is wrong, he says to come to see him because He is willing to change because he is not perfect. A cult dishonors a family unit. In the IHOP community, the families are flourishing. The children are living lives that puts the lives of the adults of this world into shame. These children are falling more and love with Jesus and they are growing this way where they fast regularly (not from food, thats dumb and Mike Bickle also says that children should not fast food) and they fast games, movies, etc. and they are growing in this kind of community growing in prophetic, being taken up to heaven, having encounters with angels, etc. A cult isolates members and penalizes them for leaving. People leave all the time because of all the internships here. They aren’t made to make lifelong commitments or anything but it’s really all up to the person if they want to stay or not. A cult emphasizes doctrines out of Scripture. As I have been at IHOP for a while now and as I have known others who have stayed since the beginning, the messages are scripturally based. IHOP does not brainwash people into believing that Mike Bickle is the only one with special revelation. Actually, Mike Bickle is open to the revelation of the leadership and in the community as long as it it is scriptural. A cult makes its followers seek false loyalty to the leader. Mike Bickle does not do that all. Mike Bickle talks so much on ways to loving Jesus and almost never on focusing on him. Mike Bickle drives a below average car and lives in a duplex in a pretty ghetto area. He lives a humble life of extravagant living to God only instead of other pastors who drive around Benzs and use the offering money on themselves. A cult allow its leaders to cross biblical boundaries of purity and finances because of their special revelation. Mike Bickle as I have already stated takes no money from offerings but lives as the way all the other intercessory missionaries live at IHOP, by raising their own support and from miracles of financial provision from God. Mike Bickle is married to Diane Bickle and is happy with her. A cult excludes the body of Christ and believes that only their ministry is the truly saved. Mike Bickle does not exclude the body of Christ but he is deeply involved with many other ministries around the world (YWAM, Exodus Cry, LIFE, Hannah’s Dream Adoption Center, etc.). Mike Bickle also calls the whole body of Christ the house of prayer and so he does not exclude the body of christ at all. You can clearly see that Mike Bickle is not leading a cult but actually a ministry that is alive in loving the Lord. If you do not believe any of this, just come see for yourself. You not have to stay here for many years to see this but you can come for a conference. Matthew 7:15-20. God says that we will know by their fruits. We cannot judge by our opinons but only through the person’s fruit. So come and see the fruits of Mike Bickle and IHOP. God bless.

          1. Thats the thing, we have both quantity and quality, how are you sure the quality of that one testimony is better than those of here?

          2. Exactly what I’m talking about. You are not able to judge and say that the quality of your testimony is better if you have not never come here and witnessed the qualities of the testimonies here.

  22. You wrote: “If you think that IHOP is correct, then there is no real hope for you. Come back when you are ready to discuss this. Otherwise, you need to seek God – away from the den of devils called IHOP”

    WOW. You are one arrogant fellow, aren’t you? Mercy, Lord. Mercy. I think, brother, you might be walking proof that knowledge puffs up. There is a sting in most things you write. It feels like you are angry. Jesus only dealt harshly with the Pharisees, the legalists.

    You know them by their love and fruit. Let’s be full of love and grace. Let us seek point of agreement with our fellow believers. And I am cautious, very cautious, of accusing others of acts of devils.

    May you receive peace and wisdom. May you know the gentleness of Jesus.

  23. IHOP (church) is the dark, mores sinister version of IHOP (Pancake) house. Both irritated me – the first because of obvious, suck your brain reasons, and the latter because the crepes aren’t nearly as good, and they do not have the all you can eat buffet.


  24. It is easy to run around crying ‘wolf’ when it comes to Mike Bickle. My advice is to read his latest book ‘Growing in the Prophetic’. It will answer all those ludicrous claims made against him and IHOP.

  25. In the reality of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit, the Trinity,
    In the reality of Holy Scripture, which your Christian brother Mike Bickle adheres to. In the reality of God-ordained prayer and worship.

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