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  1. There has been some later Christians who have seen the idea of annihilation of the lost sinner, like E.W. Bullinger. Though I am not sure he really taught it, as perhaps thought about it? In fact today, there are many modern Evangelicals who have taken the position of annihilation. The list is rather long. But John 3:16 does say “perish”, whatever that means?

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    1. Polycarp

      Very true, Fr. Robert. I can see annihiationism to some level, but not sure how that would play into everything. Gregory of Nyssa based his doctrine on the nature of God. Annihalitionism would certainly clear the cosmos of evil.

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      1. Joel,
        I do not follow annihiationism myself. Even the pagan Plato, said the soul was eternal. But eternal punishment, I am not sure at times? So in some sense this brings annihiationism back into play.

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        1. Polycarp

          I don’t follow it either. I tend to go with the fact that God created us as a divine spark from Himself. Could any part of Him cease to exist?

          As you can see, we’ve been exploring this for a while. I like Gregory’s reasoning (posted yesterday) about his remedial punishment, which was limited to an age – which would explain Rev 14.11 and the Greek there..

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          1. Joel,
            Yes as Bullinger (on said subject), you know I like and respect his love for the Word of God, etc. But don’t follow him everywhere either. There is so much we just don’t know, etc.

          2. Polycarp

            I agree, completely

  2. Curtis

    Take into consideration two concepts. One being the parable of the wheat and tears, Matt 13:38. Defines two groups which I must ask, is a seed neutral and it decides what it will become or is it what it is created to be? Next consider, hay wood and stubble. 1 Cor 3:11-15 “saved but by fire” denotes a process to make ready for the kingdom. 1 Cor 15:50-58. shows us a mystery.
    Sheol and the lake of fire are two different places. Rev 20:14. At some point Sheol and death are thrown into the lake of fire.
    One more to consider, Luke 16:19-31. Is the rich man a seed of Abraham and will be saved but by fire? Does an evil man have concern for his brothers? Is he being refined for the kingdom?

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