1. Look, it’s easy really. Just make sure they speak the magic words. Who cares about their understanding of those words, their actions, of anything else. It helps if they use the word ‘atonement’.

  2. kenleonard

    Ummm, you don’t have to listen to him that closely.

    He has said that we will be judged by our works, and that because God is going to judge us by our works after we die, we should be able to judge people by such while they’re alive.

    Right there, in a couple sentences, he has demonstrated that he doesn’t have any great understanding of atonement, even if he knows to use the word.

    Like any good con, he uses the right terms.

    I used to have a great deal of respect for Richard Land, even as I fell away from politicized Christendom. But his betrayal of the Gospel is favor of the Republican party orthodoxy in the 2008 primary showed me what he really is. He might be saved, but I can’t think of a single reason to buy into his advice about whether someone else is.

    Beck is leading a lot of people astray … one might call it the Great Apostasy, but that term’s already taken. ; – )

  3. Amy Stark

    wow…. have “christians” forgotten their own belief? Who is anyone to judge the heart of another man? That seems to me to be God’s territory.

    Now comparing dogma, doctrine, and various publisbed or proclaimed beliefs to another can be enlightening its purely speculative when trying to apply the observations to the heart of the individual. I betcha God is either rolling his eyes or laughing at any assessment we have of another who claims to love Him.

    You want to know about the fruits from Glenn Beck? I raise my hand up as possibly The Biggest Fruit as evidence The Holy Spirit works through Glenn. I had all but shunned God. I found Glenn’s show on Fox, read his political books, listened to his talk radio show (and I had no interest in talk radio prior). Had I known Glenn Beck would lead me back to God and my Christian faith I would have avoided him like a Bill Maher show! But he drew me in via the context. With a backdrop of interesting historical analysis blended with current news and presented with humor and sensation he snapped me back to focus on my gift of faith. Albeit the apocalyptic urgency doesn’t hurt, but its not as though Catholics, Baptists, and even my religion (Lutheran) doesn’t use a little fire and brimstone & Revelations 9 now and then.

    Truth is, Christ is the only Truth and He doesn’t hand out lapel pins to those who are truly saved. We have to go on faith if a man says he is a Christian and isn’t taking part in horrific sins in Christ

  4. Amy Stark

    Posting fromy phone so my previous post is full of typos.
    I want to finish my last line.

    Judging someone who professes to be Christian as not being Christian based on what general information you dug up and subjectively interpreted is spiritually dishonest. Its another form of blanketing and stereotyping. Better to assess the fruits growing on the fruit trees in your own backyard before telling your Mormon neighbor he needs to buy his citrus tree fertilizer from you. At least thats how I try to approach or view folks who seem to do Christianity differently than myself.

    We live in a nation of tolerance and freedom, thankfully. I feel this country was the direct result of Christ, in that He seems to me to be the influence which finally realized God’s plan to
    he human mind and heart up to idea of individuality and a personal relationship (versus collective, assumed or forced adherence) with God. Salvation on a very personal and private level. I can no more prove my salvation anymore than Glenn Beck can. My faith and salvation are gifts and not a group membership with a certificate nor a trophy that I earned.

    Faith and Salvation come from Grace and its with a certain amount of grace we should accept others.

  5. amy stark

    Hi there Joel!

    But seriously? “tsk tsk tsk” That’s your response? That’s your best response???????

    Where is the actual love of Christ/Truth and the Holy Spirit of God? Where are your questions which lead to my demise? Where is your love of God and love of us wretched sinners, I wonder…

    Now I wonder, because I am confused by the idea that a Christian would try to slander another in this day and age if they weren’t against Christianity the first place? Please assure me you are not just an atheist and/or anti Beck hack… I have found a great many of them in my surfing.

    I just found your site today so of course I could be misinterpreting everything but it all seems odd to me that you don’t have a stronger argument… because I have a deeper debate to offer you if you opt to task me.

    Honestly, “tsk tsk tsk” right back atcha baby… Yet I have so much more to share.


    we all sin and we all fall short of the glory of God

    Romans 3:23

    When you get the application of Christianity perfected call me…. until then – back off Beck because you aren’t Christ and you aren’t authorized to judge another man.

    May God bless us both and I love you – despite our opposite polar placement,



    1. Amy, I simply don’t know what to say to some one who thinks that a devil led them to Christ.


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