Comments for Unsettled Christianity http://unsettledchristianity.com One blog to rule them all, One blog to find them, One blog to bring them all and in the darkness bind them. Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:15:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 Comment on Choo Thomas on Choo Thomas by Sherly http://unsettledchristianity.com/2011/05/choo-thomas-on-choo-thomas/#comment-326358 Sherly Wed, 22 Feb 2012 17:15:03 +0000 http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/?p=35624#comment-326358 This is a message from God: Repent From Any Dumb Idol! Fear The Lord! Deuteronomy 4:15-16 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire: Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female, STATUES OR IMAGES OR ANYTHING WHICH IS INTENDED TO COMPARE THE APPEARANCE OF JESUS IS AN IDOL! (Jer 10:14-16, 16:20-21, Psalm 115:4-7). SATAN IS DECEIVING HUMAN THROUGH THE PICTURE OF “JESUS” (IT IS NOT JESUS) AND JESUS CHRIST WHO IS TRUE AND ALIVE IS TRYING SO HARD TO WIN HIS PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY LONGING AFTER HIM, BY REMINDS THEM ABOUT OBEDIENCE TO THE SECOND COMMANDMENT. (Jeremiah 2:11-13, Rev 13:7-9, Mal 4:4) Jeremiah 10:14 Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them. 15 They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish. This truth revealed on 21 December 2006. With God’s help, the testimony and teachings about this written on eight tittles of Good News: 1. “Devil’s Deception Revealed, Revealing Truth”, 2. “Salvation Comes! Saved By Grace Through Faith”, 3. “The TRUTH Is Come, Kingdom Which Cannot Be Moved.”, 4. “The Faith Of Yeshua”, 5. “NOW GOD COMMANDETH ALL MEN EVERYWHERE TO REPENT”, 6. “THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL, GOOD NEWS!”, 7. “JESUS CHRIST THE LORD”, 8. “I Am Not Sent But Unto The Lost Sheep Of Israel” God calls all people everywhere to repent. Here is the Word which hidden for centuries that revealed by God on 21 December 2006: Act 17:29-31 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. (This Word of God contains a secret wisdom about, the proof that verified the truth. JESUS’s Godhead, His death and His resurrection, and the truth of Him who raised Jesus up, all are proved, described in Good News "Devil's Deception Revealed, Revealing Truth", and "Salvation Comes! Saved By Grace Through Faith") Those who do not repent will get the sword of God. (Describe on "NOW GOD COMMANDETH ALL MEN EVERYWHERE TO REPENT) Isaiah 65:12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not. Jeremiah 16:20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? 21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my is The LORD. Isaiah 42:8 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images. Isaiah 46:5; To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like? John 5:23 ; That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him. Jonah 2:8 They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy. Repent! Fear the Lord! Isaiah 44:22 I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee. Note: give me your email addres for details. (I will sent you eight title of good news testimony and teaching involved) In the name of Jesus Christ the Lord This is a message from God:

Repent From Any Dumb Idol! Fear The Lord!

Deuteronomy 4:15-16 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire: Lest ye corrupt yourselves, and make you a graven image, the similitude of any figure, the likeness of male or female,

STATUES OR IMAGES OR ANYTHING WHICH IS INTENDED TO COMPARE THE APPEARANCE OF JESUS IS AN IDOL! (Jer 10:14-16, 16:20-21, Psalm 115:4-7).

SATAN IS DECEIVING HUMAN THROUGH THE PICTURE OF “JESUS” (IT IS NOT JESUS) AND JESUS CHRIST WHO IS TRUE AND ALIVE IS TRYING SO HARD TO WIN HIS PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY LONGING AFTER HIM, BY REMINDS THEM ABOUT OBEDIENCE TO THE SECOND COMMANDMENT. (Jeremiah 2:11-13, Rev 13:7-9, Mal 4:4)

Jeremiah 10:14 Every man is brutish in his knowledge: every founder is confounded by the graven image: for his molten image is falsehood, and there is no breath in them. 15 They are vanity, and the work of errors: in the time of their visitation they shall perish.

This truth revealed on 21 December 2006. With God’s help, the testimony and teachings about this written on eight tittles of Good News: 1. “Devil’s Deception Revealed, Revealing Truth”, 2. “Salvation Comes! Saved By Grace Through Faith”, 3. “The TRUTH Is Come, Kingdom Which Cannot Be Moved.”, 4. “The Faith Of Yeshua”, 5. “NOW GOD COMMANDETH ALL MEN EVERYWHERE TO REPENT”, 6. “THE EVERLASTING GOSPEL, GOOD NEWS!”, 7. “JESUS CHRIST THE LORD”, 8. “I Am Not Sent But Unto The Lost Sheep Of Israel”

God calls all people everywhere to repent. Here is the Word which hidden for centuries that revealed by God on 21 December 2006: Act 17:29-31 Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and man’s device. And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world in righteousness by that man whom he hath ordained; whereof he hath given assurance unto all men, in that he hath raised him from the dead. (This Word of God contains a secret wisdom about, the proof that verified the truth. JESUS’s Godhead, His death and His resurrection, and the truth of Him who raised Jesus up, all are proved, described in Good News “Devil’s Deception Revealed, Revealing Truth”, and “Salvation Comes! Saved By Grace Through Faith”)

Those who do not repent will get the sword of God. (Describe on “NOW GOD COMMANDETH ALL MEN EVERYWHERE TO REPENT)

Isaiah 65:12 Therefore will I number you to the sword, and ye shall all bow down to the slaughter: because when I called, ye did not answer; when I spake, ye did not hear; but did evil before mine eyes, and did choose that wherein I delighted not.

Jeremiah 16:20 Shall a man make gods unto himself, and they are no gods? 21 Therefore, behold, I will this once cause them to know, I will cause them to know mine hand and my might; and they shall know that my is The LORD.

Isaiah 42:8 42:8 I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.

Isaiah 46:5; To whom will ye liken me, and make me equal, and compare me, that we may be like?

John 5:23 ; That all men should honour the Son, even as they honour the Father. He that honoureth not the Son honoureth not the Father which hath sent him.

Jonah 2:8 They that observe lying vanities forsake their own mercy.

Repent! Fear the Lord!

Isaiah 44:22 I have blotted out, as a thick cloud, thy transgressions, and, as a cloud, thy sins: return unto me; for I have redeemed thee.

Note: give me your email addres for details. (I will sent you eight title of good news testimony and teaching involved)

In the name of Jesus Christ the Lord

]]> Comment on I will attempt to give up criticism of heretics for #Lent by Craig L. Adams http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/i-will-attempt-to-give-up-criticism-of-heretics-for-lent/#comment-326321 Craig L. Adams Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:23:12 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43949#comment-326321 Thanks so much for your reflections. And, may God bless you on this journey. Thanks so much for your reflections. And, may God bless you on this journey.

]]> Comment on I will attempt to give up criticism of heretics for #Lent by Joel http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/i-will-attempt-to-give-up-criticism-of-heretics-for-lent/#comment-326314 Joel Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:05:49 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43949#comment-326314 No, I don't think so. Self-denial is something that should happen in the Christian life. I guess for me, as I sit and think about my sins and my own heresies, something brought on by Lent and Ash Wednesday, I realized just how hypocritical I was being. I mean, honestly, if I could blog against my self from four years ago, that Joel would have called his Joel a false prophet. I do think that they need addressing, but in thinking about all of these things, and in pondering my own faith journey, focusing on the negative has gotten me nowhere. For my family, while we practice self-denial of something, we add to it something else. This has greatly benefited us, beginning in Lent, but going from year to year. So, while I am giving up calling people false prophets, I will not give up completely pointing out what I believe are the errors of some of their doctrines, but I want to focus on their doctrines and not on the fiber of the person. No, I don’t think so. Self-denial is something that should happen in the Christian life. I guess for me, as I sit and think about my sins and my own heresies, something brought on by Lent and Ash Wednesday, I realized just how hypocritical I was being. I mean, honestly, if I could blog against my self from four years ago, that Joel would have called his Joel a false prophet. I do think that they need addressing, but in thinking about all of these things, and in pondering my own faith journey, focusing on the negative has gotten me nowhere.

For my family, while we practice self-denial of something, we add to it something else. This has greatly benefited us, beginning in Lent, but going from year to year. So, while I am giving up calling people false prophets, I will not give up completely pointing out what I believe are the errors of some of their doctrines, but I want to focus on their doctrines and not on the fiber of the person.

]]> Comment on I will attempt to give up criticism of heretics for #Lent by Craig L. Adams http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/i-will-attempt-to-give-up-criticism-of-heretics-for-lent/#comment-326310 Craig L. Adams Wed, 22 Feb 2012 16:01:01 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43949#comment-326310 And, I guess I wouldn't be responding to this if I didn't sense that same problem within myself. And, as a blogger, one also is tempted because negativity toward well-known Christian figures will probably generate some hits. With me it's not the Pentecostals that drive me nuts so much as the new Calvinists. Does that mean I am unable to learn from them? Probably, much of the time. Then, shame on me! Beyond that, I have an issue with the whole practice of Lent as a time of self-denial, especially in cases like this. Self-denial in various forms is needed throughout the Christian life, and not just in a specific period of time. Does the practice of Lent undermine the need to self-denial throughout the year? And, I guess I wouldn’t be responding to this if I didn’t sense that same problem within myself. And, as a blogger, one also is tempted because negativity toward well-known Christian figures will probably generate some hits. With me it’s not the Pentecostals that drive me nuts so much as the new Calvinists. Does that mean I am unable to learn from them? Probably, much of the time. Then, shame on me!

Beyond that, I have an issue with the whole practice of Lent as a time of self-denial, especially in cases like this. Self-denial in various forms is needed throughout the Christian life, and not just in a specific period of time. Does the practice of Lent undermine the need to self-denial throughout the year?

]]> Comment on I will attempt to give up criticism of heretics for #Lent by Joel http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/i-will-attempt-to-give-up-criticism-of-heretics-for-lent/#comment-326304 Joel Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:50:33 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43949#comment-326304 Whew... Indeed... Well, I will continue this track, I hope, past Lent. I will endeavor to focus on the positive, the Gospel, which is more profitable than focusing on others. Whew… Indeed…

Well, I will continue this track, I hope, past Lent. I will endeavor to focus on the positive, the Gospel, which is more profitable than focusing on others.

]]> Comment on I will attempt to give up criticism of heretics for #Lent by Craig L. Adams http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/i-will-attempt-to-give-up-criticism-of-heretics-for-lent/#comment-326299 Craig L. Adams Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:35:45 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43949#comment-326299 I'm teasing you, yes. But, just for the record, I think this is a great idea. And, I expect all the aforementioned & more to act up in extraordinary & provocative ways all during Lent. :-) That's always the way it goes, isn't it? I’m teasing you, yes. But, just for the record, I think this is a great idea. And, I expect all the aforementioned & more to act up in extraordinary & provocative ways all during Lent. :-)

That’s always the way it goes, isn’t it?

]]> Comment on I will attempt to give up criticism of heretics for #Lent by Joel http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/i-will-attempt-to-give-up-criticism-of-heretics-for-lent/#comment-326296 Joel Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:31:54 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43949#comment-326296 Um, thanks? Um, thanks?

]]> Comment on I will attempt to give up criticism of heretics for #Lent by Craig L. Adams http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/i-will-attempt-to-give-up-criticism-of-heretics-for-lent/#comment-326293 Craig L. Adams Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:20:59 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43949#comment-326293 Lotsa luck with that, Joel. Lotsa luck with that, Joel.

]]> Comment on No, being Evangelical Is Not Enough #lent by Joel http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/no-being-evangelical-is-not-enough-lent/#comment-326292 Joel Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:20:08 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43895#comment-326292 You were Protestant? You were Protestant?

]]> Comment on No, being Evangelical Is Not Enough #lent by Esteban Vázquez http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/no-being-evangelical-is-not-enough-lent/#comment-326288 Esteban Vázquez Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:15:09 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43895#comment-326288 That's a fine little book indeed. I read it somewhere along the way, I believe when I was still a pastor struggling with the inadequacy (biblical, historical, theological) of standard Protestant worship. As I read it, I felt relieved to learn that someone had been where I was then, and that I wasn't just going crazy. (Howard was still an Episcopalian when he wrote this, and the book reflects that, but he later became a Roman Catholic.) That’s a fine little book indeed. I read it somewhere along the way, I believe when I was still a pastor struggling with the inadequacy (biblical, historical, theological) of standard Protestant worship. As I read it, I felt relieved to learn that someone had been where I was then, and that I wasn’t just going crazy. (Howard was still an Episcopalian when he wrote this, and the book reflects that, but he later became a Roman Catholic.)

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by steph http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-326218 steph Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:53:37 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-326218 Don't put in quotes what aren't words spoken by the accused. Not being religious, is not the same as not being Christian. It is true, and supported by academic research, that UK Christians (and Antipodeans identifying as Christian) are not very religious. Don’t put in quotes what aren’t words spoken by the accused. Not being religious, is not the same as not being Christian. It is true, and supported by academic research, that UK Christians (and Antipodeans identifying as Christian) are not very religious.

]]> Comment on Thoughts on being objectively pro-life, Susan G. Komen and the President’s actions by Baking cakes to support abortion clinics | Unsettled Christianity http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/thoughts-on-being-objectively-pro-life-susan-g-komen-and-the-presidents-actions/#comment-326121 Baking cakes to support abortion clinics | Unsettled Christianity Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:16:56 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43017#comment-326121 [...] Thoughts on being objectively pro-life, Susan G. Komen and the President’s actions (unsettledchristianity.com) Living the dream, in Sydney.Connect me on Website [...] [...] Thoughts on being objectively pro-life, Susan G. Komen and the President’s actions (unsettledchristianity.com) Living the dream, in Sydney.Connect me on Website [...]

]]> Comment on Bath Salts, the poor man’s meth which was the poor man’s crack which was… by Austin http://unsettledchristianity.com/2011/01/bath-salts-the-poor-mans-meth-which-was-the-poor-mans-crack-which-was/#comment-325913 Austin Wed, 22 Feb 2012 04:11:08 +0000 http://thechurchofjesuschrist.us/?p=29885#comment-325913 who cares? doesn't everybody have a way of getting high? altering their mind? some people even say "I'm high on life!" congratulations! you've found a cheaper drug than i did! if anybody thinks that they are truly drug free, you're only kidding yourself. your body creates drugs. endorphins. dmt. serotonin and even melatonin. adrenaline is currently the most expensive drug for sale available on the black market today! even sitting in front of a tv will alter your state of reality temporarily, and releases some of those chemicals and hormones your body produces to react to it! just think before you move. would you want someone to come into your house, steal your tv and lock you in jail for it? who cares? doesn’t everybody have a way of getting high? altering their mind? some people even say “I’m high on life!” congratulations! you’ve found a cheaper drug than i did! if anybody thinks that they are truly drug free, you’re only kidding yourself. your body creates drugs. endorphins. dmt. serotonin and even melatonin. adrenaline is currently the most expensive drug for sale available on the black market today! even sitting in front of a tv will alter your state of reality temporarily, and releases some of those chemicals and hormones your body produces to react to it!
just think before you move. would you want someone to come into your house, steal your tv and lock you in jail for it?

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by Just Sayin' http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325897 Just Sayin' Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:48:37 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325897 In other words, if you can't cite the book of Matthew as the first book in the NT, according to Dawkins you're “not really Christian at all”. In other words, if you can’t cite the book of Matthew as the first book in the NT, according to Dawkins you’re “not really Christian at all”.

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by Just Sayin' http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325894 Just Sayin' Wed, 22 Feb 2012 03:46:25 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325894 What he was doing was trying to dictate who is and who isn't a proper Christian -- according to his standards. What he was doing was trying to dictate who is and who isn’t a proper Christian — according to his standards.

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by steph http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325836 steph Wed, 22 Feb 2012 02:11:57 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325836 xx thank you for not being miffed. I hope you find what you were referring to. Or perhaps I just wish you were mistaken. I don't want him to be so stupid. For once I thought he'd done something of value with that survey but if he dared suggest that the survey results don't reflect reality because the respondents weren't Christian then he's still as historically illiterate as ever with no understanding of humanity or society and just as fungusmentalist as conservative Christians who reject the survey's validity on the grounds that they don't believe the respondents qualify as Christian either. xx thank you for not being miffed. I hope you find what you were referring to. Or perhaps I just wish you were mistaken. I don’t want him to be so stupid. For once I thought he’d done something of value with that survey but if he dared suggest that the survey results don’t reflect reality because the respondents weren’t Christian then he’s still as historically illiterate as ever with no understanding of humanity or society and just as fungusmentalist as conservative Christians who reject the survey’s validity on the grounds that they don’t believe the respondents qualify as Christian either.

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by Joel http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325806 Joel Wed, 22 Feb 2012 01:45:19 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325806 And I appreciate that. It's been a really busy day, but I promise to find the stuff I was referring too... or I will retract. And I appreciate that. It’s been a really busy day, but I promise to find the stuff I was referring too… or I will retract.

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by steph http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325714 steph Tue, 21 Feb 2012 23:10:30 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325714 The first link is just commentary and in the second link with the letter correspondence, Richard makes the distinction between secularism (which is not dependent on atheism and can be religious) and atheism which is a completely accurate distinction. The other guy fails to acknowledge this and prattles about liberalism. Richard says the vast majority of UK Christians "aren't really religious at all" which could be interpreted to mean and is probably intended to mean, they don't make religious practice or faith part of their everyday life. This is definitely not the same as saying 'they aren't Christian'. And that UK Christians aren't very religious is an honest reflection of Christians in the UK, and the majority in the Antipodean yonder too, supported by anthropological and sociological research on identity and belief. So Richard has the upper hand and as far as I can tell you have misrepresented him but claiming: "he took to the extreme and said that they weren’t Christian". This is the second time I have defended Dawkins, something I never expected to do, but I cannot let misrepresentation of anyone pass unchecked. The first link is just commentary and in the second link with the letter correspondence, Richard makes the distinction between secularism (which is not dependent on atheism and can be religious) and atheism which is a completely accurate distinction. The other guy fails to acknowledge this and prattles about liberalism. Richard says the vast majority of UK Christians “aren’t really religious at all” which could be interpreted to mean and is probably intended to mean, they don’t make religious practice or faith part of their everyday life. This is definitely not the same as saying ‘they aren’t Christian’. And that UK Christians aren’t very religious is an honest reflection of Christians in the UK, and the majority in the Antipodean yonder too, supported by anthropological and sociological research on identity and belief.

So Richard has the upper hand and as far as I can tell you have misrepresented him but claiming: “he took to the extreme and said that they weren’t Christian”. This is the second time I have defended Dawkins, something I never expected to do, but I cannot let misrepresentation of anyone pass unchecked.

]]> Comment on Fixing the Moral Deficit by Ron Sider (Video) @ivpress by Just Sayin' http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/fixing-the-moral-deficit-by-ron-sider-video-ivpress/#comment-325697 Just Sayin' Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:13:06 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43882#comment-325697 Or just relocate to horrible secular Canada, where they actually look after their poor. Or just relocate to horrible secular Canada, where they actually look after their poor.

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by Joel http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325671 Joel Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:14:03 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325671 and this one http://richarddawkins.net/articles/645007-what-is-the-proper-place-for-religion-in-britain-s-public-life and this one http://richarddawkins.net/articles/645007-what-is-the-proper-place-for-religion-in-britain-s-public-life

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by Joel http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325670 Joel Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:12:33 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325670 I do like this article tho! http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/feb/14/richard-dawkins-british-christianity I do like this article tho! http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2012/feb/14/richard-dawkins-british-christianity

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by Joel http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325669 Joel Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:09:42 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325669 i've gotten side tracked with the day job! ;) i’ve gotten side tracked with the day job! ;)

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by steph http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325666 steph Tue, 21 Feb 2012 21:05:31 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325666 grrrrrrrrowl!!!!!! I need a quote!! impatient aren't I? ;-) grrrrrrrrowl!!!!!! I need a quote!!

impatient aren’t I?

;-)

]]> Comment on “Justification: Five Views:” The Traditional Reformed View @ivpacademic by Joel Haas http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/justification-five-views-the-traditional-reformed-view-ivpacademic-2/#comment-325651 Joel Haas Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:41:53 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43426#comment-325651 Joel said: "Here’s the thing… the Scripture was never meant to be read plainly. Further, it cannot be read without Scholarship, even to the most lay reader. Why? Because even to the plain translation in one’s hands has gone centuries of scholarship. Further, I tend to think that since scholarship is supposed to lead truth, and so does the Spirit, the Spirit will use Scholarship to correct our views. We shouldn’t resist." I find this a very powerful quote. And true. Except that I would substitute the word 'Tradition' for 'scholarship.' It is funny that Protestants want to argue so much against faithful, trustworthy 'Tradition' (because *they* don't think it's faithful - but yet write books with 'four [Reformed!] views' on such a central topic as justification), but yet will use very similar language and concepts applied to 'scholarship.' So the holy, faithful, prayerful, God-fearing teachers throughout the Church's history can't be trusted, but 'contemporary neutral PhD's' can be? It is really quite unbelievable to me that we Protestants (and Roman Catholics for that matter) have been kicking against the goads for all these years... Joel said:

“Here’s the thing… the Scripture was never meant to be read plainly. Further, it cannot be read without Scholarship, even to the most lay reader. Why? Because even to the plain translation in one’s hands has gone centuries of scholarship.

Further, I tend to think that since scholarship is supposed to lead truth, and so does the Spirit, the Spirit will use Scholarship to correct our views. We shouldn’t resist.”

I find this a very powerful quote. And true. Except that I would substitute the word ‘Tradition’ for ‘scholarship.’ It is funny that Protestants want to argue so much against faithful, trustworthy ‘Tradition’ (because *they* don’t think it’s faithful – but yet write books with ‘four [Reformed!] views’ on such a central topic as justification), but yet will use very similar language and concepts applied to ‘scholarship.’

So the holy, faithful, prayerful, God-fearing teachers throughout the Church’s history can’t be trusted, but ‘contemporary neutral PhD’s’ can be? It is really quite unbelievable to me that we Protestants (and Roman Catholics for that matter) have been kicking against the goads for all these years…

]]> Comment on Richard Dawkins, no longer an atheist by steph http://unsettledchristianity.com/2012/02/richard-dawkins-no-longer-an-atheist/#comment-325604 steph Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:23:06 +0000 http://unsettledchristianity.com/?p=43874#comment-325604 http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/13/poll-british-christians-religion-public-policy_n_1274442.html?ref=uk Acutally Joel, I still need a link where he says they aren't Christian. The first link is not a direct quote and this quote isn't really sufficient 'The results also showed that religion was "largely irrelevant even to those who still label themselves Christian", he added'. He's wrong about religion being 'largely irrelevant' without qualification that it is only not part of everyday life. This is not the same as 'largely irrelevant'. However he hasn't actually said: 'they aren't Christians' Has he or not? http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/02/13/poll-british-christians-religion-public-policy_n_1274442.html?ref=uk
Acutally Joel, I still need a link where he says they aren’t Christian. The first link is not a direct quote and this quote isn’t really sufficient
‘The results also showed that religion was “largely irrelevant even to those who still label themselves Christian”, he added’.
He’s wrong about religion being ‘largely irrelevant’ without qualification that it is only not part of everyday life. This is not the same as ‘largely irrelevant’. However he hasn’t actually said: ‘they aren’t Christians’

Has he or not?

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