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  1. Gary

    Yikes! “O taste the goodness of your God,
    And eat His flesh, and drink His blood!”
    Reminds me of TSA fixation on “Washed in the blood of the lamb”. I always cringed hearing that one, imagining the poor kids listening to it, thinking “where’s the exit! So far, at least, the UMC hymns seem to be rated PG.

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    1. that is historic language (John 6…)

      There are several hymnals for use in the UMC… several are more modern

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      1. Gary

        Just old dudes interpreting scripture the way they saw it. I like modern UMC, not 18th or 19th century.

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        1. Scott Fritzsche

          No matter how modern you make it, the story of Easter and thus the way that all of us can find redemption is not a PG story.

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          1. Gary

            “and thus the way that all of us can find redemption is not a PG story”…I think there, we can find a discrepancy in our thought processes! Redemption, I assume, you think is required because Adam decided to eat forbidden fruit. I say, ridiculous. Redemption is not required because there is no such thing as original sin.


          2. Agreed – original sin in the Reformed sense is a doctrine owed to Augustine’s inability to properly translate Greek.

            But, this is where we must turn to Irenaeus and his idea of recapitulation – and Christus Victor!

  2. Scott Fritzsche

    I was referring to the Crucifixion which whether you need redemption, salvation or some other ‘tion’ it can not be a PG story.

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    1. Gary

      That’s why I always wondered why they call it “Good Friday”! People die. Christ died. Emphasis, seems like it should be “Good Sunday”, and “not so Good Friday”. Same for the gruesome depictions of Christ on the cross in some churches. I am glad hymns are modernized to reflect good and hope, instead of blood drenched sacrifices of purification ceremonies (similar to voodoo), like Leviticus, or TSA fixation on “washed in the blood of the lamb”. That was my original point.

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