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  1. Very good post Joel, solid in every way! Would that the Church knew and listened, more keenly this message! That includes our feminist believers, the more radical ones tend to diminish this NT “brotherhood”! I cannot think of a better message to them.
    Fr. R.

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  2. Brother, if I could could wave your message to the whole Church? I most certainly would…every line!
    Fr. R.

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  3. Joel
    Yes, taking our stand on what our conscience over the Holy Scripture says, will always cost us something. But if we are right, we receive the benefit of standing with and for Christ. Even as sinful beings we must follow Scripture within our own place of conscience and reason. As Luther, we can say, here I stand, simply!
    Fr. R.

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  4. Joel,
    Both the real Luther and Calvin, are well worth reading! Both sinful human men, but both bound by conscience over Holy Scripture! And next to the Bible, both of these men were readers and both quote Augustine often. For Luther Augustine was his major authority, after scripture. Sin was no light matter for these two Christian men and teachers!
    Fr. R.

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  5. Joel,
    I just have to quote Luther here: ” ‘Ecclesia’ ought to mean the holy Christian people, not only of the time of the apostles . . . but right to the end of the world, so that there is always living on earth a Christian holy people in which Christ lives, works and reigns, ‘per redemptionem’ through grace and forgiveness of sins, and the Holy Spirit ‘per vivificationem et sanctificationem’ through the daily purging out of sins and the renewal of its life.” (Luther, W.M.L.5.264-6.)
    Fr. R.

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  6. PS…maybe I should have posted this over in the blog about homosexuality as well?

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  7. Thank you, Fr. Robert.

    It’s been weighing on my that idea that Christians – I use that term lightly anymore – believe you can do the most heinous of crimes, but if you repent, then you should be free of secular obligations. What a reproach that brings upon the name of Christ!

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