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  1. Deb

    I am sorry to say that I felt this way ,some, but I learnt that we as Christians are not supposed to get involved with this kind of thing, we are to have faith and remember that God is in control at all time even until the end, He will never forsake us.. the Bible says that if you hate your brother , you have committed murder.. Now what do you think about the soldiers that are having to go to war? Does ,Thou shalt not kill , pertain to them too? It is a crazy world in which we live in,

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  2. This is extremely worrying.

    Regardless of supporting personally any political leader this must be stamped on. No political leader should be targetted for assassination due to personal prejudices or due to disagrements over policies. That kind of behaviour does not belong in any civilised democracy.

    It is extremely dangerous to incite murder in this way, perhaps especially if it is coming from those who purport to be believers in God.

    We are fighting a similar battle in Britain where some think it is just the thing to incite the murder of public figures in order to show one’s strength of feeling. It’s worrying how traditional values have given way or threaten to give way to judgement by political opinion. That leads to mob rule and endless civil strife.

    The commenters at many British press publications have often shown their violent side over recent years, especially regarding Tony Blair & Iraq.

    But now we have a film director trying to write his next script, only it’s real life/death, or could be.

    http://keeptonyblairforpm.wordpress.com/2009/08/26/blairs-head-on-a-spear-charge-frears-with-incitement-to-murder/

    Until the law stamps down on such inciters, it won’t get any better, sad to say.

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  3. Yes, we SHOULD speak out against people who call for death of anyone – regardless of the venue. But it still seems to me you painted with a wider brush than needful.

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  4. Again, I apologize if I did in some way, Wb. I would not intentionally insult you – regardless of the situation.

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  5. Polycarp

    Philip, I only allowed you comment to show just to show how much help you need. Nothing you said, besides not making sense, is true.

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    1. Philip Gurrieri

      test – being prevented from posting

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      1. Polycarp

        No, you are not being from posting. I have you moderated so that I can proof your comments, to see if remains up to your previous level of dialog

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        1. Philip Gurrieri

          It was VERIZON peventing be from posting – so I sat there & cut it out & sent the test page to see if it would go thru – I Then immediately paste and sent the above & it went thru!

          philip

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  6. Polycarp

    Actually, Philip, Polycarp means ‘many seeds’. One other thing you got wrong, but the least of your worries

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  7. Deb, you are dead on in this case. I do not support some of the things which the President does, however, hate kills no matter if it is only internal or we carry out the action.

    The Church is supposed to be the light of the world – and look at what it is being used for.

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  8. Blair, I would agree with you, of course. While I except harsh statements from both Left and Right, when those who claim to know Love make them, it becoming intolerable.

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  9. Wb, I am not attempting to insult you. I believe that you are missing the entire point of this hypothetical.

    By your stance, then, because I said ‘American’ and ‘Christian’ then they must all be under the same paint brush as well? Hardly. Instead, the Tea Parties are a rallying point for many of these people. That much is very true. I pointed out events and people at Tea Parties – not the actual acts. Further, I pointed out ‘during the worse of the Tea Parties…’ and a Tea Party organizer, hardly painting everyone who attends as ones who call for the death of the President.

    And yes, I do bring up those people. Considering that these people could be referred to as fuel to the fodder (Was Henry guilty of Beckett’s murder? No – just his idle words, agains, another phrase I use.

    No, I think the ‘paintbrush’ is just fine. I think that people who are in these positions should guard their words wisely, or find themselves like the King of England.

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  10. I disagree. I expressly point the brush at those who are fueling the fire of the hypothetical assassin.

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  11. Wb – for all the world to see, if you think I insulted you, or even attempted to, let me apologize now. This was not my intent and I regret it.

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  12. Maybe I’m too sensitive on this issue. I was insulted. I think I know you well enough to know you didn’t intend to do so.

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  13. The thing is, you are not painting with an even balanced hand – it seems to me that you are guilty of what you accuse these folks of doing.

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  14. Wb – I have yet to see in anything I wrote where I attacked the mere naysayers and ‘disagreers’. Nor have I painted everyone who disagrees with the President with the same brush – I have pointed out, I believe, that one thing leads to another.

    It is not a fantasy, Wb, but a nightmare. I believe that is clear exactly what actions I attribute to each person. I linked them, and do not go beyond that. Instead, I tried to show a pattern – which I believe I have done.

    If something terrible does happen, rarely is because one person wakes up one morning, forgets his morning cup of coffee and shoots at the President – it is because he or she has been influenced in different ways, at different times, by different people. Again, I site historic examples committed because of idle words. As a hypothetical, I attempted to point out that it is just the action of a few – and if something happened – the action of one which causes everything, but in the end, we will all be blamed, and could very well suffer, because some of those who claim Christ can be identified as hatemongers somehow influenced one lone depraved individual who believe it was his mission to take back this country from a Muslim. This alone is the point of the hypothetical, Wb.

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  15. Wb, I have answered this point to the extreme. See my previous comment.

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  16. No, I have not, not by a long shot. I am sorry that you cannot see that – and I have no idea how to help you understand.

    Calling someone’s policies socialist – especially when they are not – is not hate or fear for everyone, for some it is, nor labeling the President a socialists putting a price on his head. Instead, it helps to fuel people who do call for such things.

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  17. Polycarp

    Philip, after reading you past few posts, I have made the decision not to allow you to post.

    1.) The content of your posts have no connection to the substance of what I have written
    2.) Your comments are, to say the least, worrisome and disturbing. I choose not to all you to promote this stuff on my blog.

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  18. Philip Gurrieri

    Poly = SYNTHETIC
    Carp = arrogant fish IN A STATE OF FEAR EATING THE WEAK

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