The Right Wing God is a Psychopath – God just shrugged at #Sandyhook

According to Bryan Fischer, God didn’t want to save the children because he wasn’t wanted in the public schools.

“Here’s the bottom line — God is not going to go where is not wanted,” he said on his radio show today. “We kicked God out of our public school system. I think God would say to us, hey, I would be glad to protect your children but you gotta invite me back into your world first. I’m not going to go where I’m not wanted. I am a gentleman…. Back when we had prayer, the Bible, and the Ten Commandments in schools, we did not need guns.”

Go head… serve this god if you want…

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Joel L. Watts holds a Masters of Arts from United Theological Seminary with a focus in literary and rhetorical criticism of the New Testament. He is currently a Ph.D. student at the University of the Free State, analyzing Paul’s model of atonement in Galatians. He is the author of Mimetic Criticism of the Gospel of Mark: Introduction and Commentary (Wipf and Stock, 2013), a co-editor and contributor to From Fear to Faith: Stories of Hitting Spiritual Walls (Energion, 2013), and Praying in God's Theater, Meditations on the Book of Revelation (Wipf and Stock, 2014).

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3 thoughts on “The Right Wing God is a Psychopath – God just shrugged at #Sandyhook

  1. Sadly, I know how this guy thinks. In a way. Part of believing biblical literalism is you have to ignore so much. You have to ignore the science news because it differs from how he thinks of the bible (notice I didn’t say “what the bible actually says”). You have to believe that all scientists are liars or stupid, and that you understand their fields better than all of them because they are delusional and hate god. You have to believe that no part of the bible contradicts other parts, even when there are parts of the bible that describe the same thing twice (Noah’s ark) or four times (the gospels) but have significantly different accounts.

    You have to ignore logical fallacies such as the fact that the Americas and the Old World and the Oceania islands have been separated by water for well over the 6,000 years that the earth has supposedly existed, but each had very different flora and fauna before the modern era so Noah would have had to visit all these land masses on his ark to collect all these animals, then go back to all these land masses to recolonize them with their respective fauna. And forget the plants, the fungi, the special life forms that wouldn’t be able to survive a global sea, such as T. aquaticus, the Yellowstone National Park geyser bacteria. He’d have to go from the Galapagos Islands where he colonized the penguins to New Zealand where he decided it would be fun to have giant cricket-like insects called wetas.

    You have to believe snakes could talk at one point. That viruses didn’t exist before Eve ate the apple, despite infecting virtually all forms of life, only one species of which can sin. That when God wants to speak to you, he does so using other people or mysterious ways, even though he used to do so using donkeys and talking bushes.

    And then we come to Bryan Fischer’s specialty: morality. I base my morality on how my actions harm others, but I’m an atheist with no moral center and have a soul that’s black as death. He bases his morality on what he thinks his bible says and what his pastors say (again, no “what the bible actually says”). His morality is based on the goodliest good bronze-aged book on earth, worshiping the goodliest good god on earth. How other people feel doesn’t matter, it’s how god feels. And he knows that God loves everything he does, because he gets a warm tingly feeling when he thinks about how his actions match what his pastor tells him to do.

    The previous logical “contradictions” are no match for the moral ones. Once god wanted a rapist to marry his victim and pay the father 50 sheqels. Now he wants them to go to prison and accept Jesus. Once god wanted a widow to marry her late husband’s brother if he died childless, then he wanted her never to marry again because it’s adultery, now he’s perfectly fine if she marries again. God abhors the killing of the unborn (I’m not sure how they know this, telepathy?), but when he does it it’s perfectly moral. Either everything he does is inherently moral, even when it isn’t. Or all those children, born or unborn, that he drowned in that previously mentioned global flood were evil and sinful. Since god changes his mind on morality so many times, maybe he made it a temporary sin to exist at the same time as Noah but not being in Noah’s family.

    You have to believe that the mostly good message of Jesus isn’t as important as the very judgy message of a guy who never actually saw Jesus and whose message tends to contradict Jesus. (Jesus: “Those without sin cast the first stone”, “take the log out of your own eye before taking the splinter out of your friend’s eye”, “judge not, lest ye be judged”, “I hang out with prostitutes”. Paul: “Some sinners will never go to heaven”, “Jesus totally told me you can eat pork now, god changed his mind”, “men can do whatever they want to their wives, women cannot teach men because they are inferior”, “stay away from sinners”.

    I really just touched the surface of Christian belief. Bryan Fischer’s mind is so incredibly filled with inconsistencies that I really don’t think he is fully in control of himself. Clear coherent thinking results in realizing that Christianity might be wrong, so thinking is something that becomes sinful. So now, his actions and words are more impulse than the common person’s. I know this because once, a fairly long time ago and in a very dark part of my life, I was very much like him. I was an atheist at 13, I was smarter than most of my classmates, and I had luckily escaped the huge mental disadvantage of a Christian household. But I was still 13, young and stupid. I understood science, but not nearly as well as I do now, so I had some doubts. I did have the huge disadvantage of being a gay teenager in Texas, and thought there was something wrong with me and that I could change, which is where religion stuck its hook in my mind. I got really into it. I still had my inherent intelligence so I was able to suck in the entire Christian belief system in a short time. After I became completely indoctrinated, I was a completely different person. Once I started to base my morality on a supposedly good but still external set of morals, I believed anything that a Christian leader told me. I hated my peers who did nothing more than having premarital sex. I hated myself more than ever. Despite that however, I had accepted Jesus so I believed I was an infinitely better person than non-Christians based solely on the belief that people who accept Jesus are better. I volunteered a little more, but other than that I wasn’t actually any better than I was before or better than the people I despised. And when I say despised, I mean “loved”, of course. Christians “love” non-sinners, any contempt they feel is solely on their actions, not the people themselves. (Love the sinnner, hate the sin, except not really).

    What finally got me out of this brain-washing was their hypocrisy. I eventually saw it. After several months of being an exceptionally moral Christian, I wasn’t becoming any less gay. I was trying so hard and praying so hard but nothing was changing. So I told the “Youth Pastor”, which started “helping” me with this issue. By help, I mean he just prayed with me, he didn’t do anything I hadn’t already been trying. But the fellow Christian teens around me were learning I was gay, somehow. I never touched another male until I was 19, but they learned I had same-sex attractions and that was enough for me to be immoral. I knew they were avoiding me but I gave them so many chances to act Jesus-like. Eventually some had finally agreed to hang out with me again, but they never came when they were supposed to pick me up. I cried for several hours, but I became an atheist again that evening. I was fairly messed up for a couple months. I had to un-indoctrinate myself, all on my own. I block out the period of my life very well, I almost never think about it. A couple times a year, at most. This is the first time I’ve told this story outside of a counseling session. I’m sorry if it’s all jumbled, I didn’t mean to write all of this.

    I came out of it with some good things: I became completely immunized against all religious and irrational beliefs; I finally became ok with being gay, even if I was still hiding it (I came out at 15 when I went to a private-ish school); and I remember all the religious doctrines and myths I learned, so I have the benefit of being a very intelligent free-thinker that will never again be brainwashed and have all the religious knowledge of a biblical literalist Christian so I can discredit them. It was a long time ago but I still know exactly how they think. And so when I see religion doing damage, I try to fight it. There are gay kids who are still told they are inherently evil, and a tragic amount of them believe it. The AFA support bullying by believing that gays deserve their abuse because it will make them see the error of their ways, and screw the larger amount of straight bully victims. Denial of gay marriage is a denial of a fundamental human right to a group of people, but it does a lot of harm beyond the lack of marital benefits like giving some people a belief that if we don’t deserve to marry, we don’t deserve discrimination protections. People who spread the falsehood that gays molest children make it so hard for us to adopt children and have the families we want and deserve. I do whatever little I can to try to show these things, because they need to know the harm these people can do in the name of their god.

  2. As a Christian, it saddens and disturbs me to hear how the
    unspeakable evil and violence, that snatched the lives of children and the
    innocence of those who survived in Newtown, Connecticut, connected to the “fact
    that God and prayer are not allowed in our schools” and that this could have
    been prevented if the Bible was taught in schools.

    I wish for us to try to be sensitive to the grieving families whose hearts are shattering in pieces right now and whose emotional landscape has forever shifted. Let us refuse the temptation of using this unfathomable tragedy to talk loudly and angrily about legislation regarding public prayer and Bible teaching to be legally allowed in school for now. Let us remember that the children, both those who were violently killed and those who survived, have never perhaps heard of the word, “legislation,” let alone understand its implications on their lives. Let us remember that this tragedy is way so much bigger and more complex and involves diverse issues.

    If we have to say anything at all, let us be emphasizing that God’s heart, His father’s heart, is also utterly anguished; that His heart absolutely breaks for everyone touched by this tragedy; and that He longs for them to experience Him as the God of all comfort and the Father of all mercies, as they struggle with profound and merciless agony, anger, guilt and whatever emotion that threatens to ravage their hearts right now.

    This reminds me of 911 when evil descended on our land as airplanes piloted by terrorists pierced through the Twin Towers, crushing the lives of hundreds and leaving behind even more broken hearts, someone—whose voice was louder than that of the body of Christ—proclaimed it as God’s judgment against gays and atheists. It is as if the Lord was offended, and He has had enough, and therefore He had to act, or refused to act, so He can get our attention regarding sin and guilt.

    What does this mean exactly when we say these innocent, beautiful children of Newtown suffered a ruthless death, and that the Lord allowed it to happen because He has been “removed from our schools”? Aren’t we, in essence, saying that the living and Almighty God is rendered powerless and His redemptive ministry limited or inexorably hindered by the laws of our land?

    Is this really the kind of God we are praying that the devastated families will
    turn to, and to whose sovereignty cling, so they can survive their immense and
    irrevocable loss? Is this really the kind of God we want the children who
    survived to grow up knowing, the One who alone can keep this evil they came
    face to face with from fully claiming their hearts and souls?

    Aren’t we in essence saying that if these beloved children were only allowed to publicly pray in their school on that fateful morning, that there was no way this deranged killer, this mentally ill man, would have entered their school and mercilessly murder children and teachers, and exposed the survivors to a horrific violence that their tender minds and hearts cannot contain? Are we saying that if they learned Bible lessons in school, that the parents of the dead would have been spared from suffering the aftermath of this unfathomable violence? Are we saying that the Lord was not present during the carnage, that He stood aside, outside of the school, helpless, with His arms tied, mainly because we have refused to “welcome Him in our schools?”

    Do we really have the power to order the omnipotent God and have a say in limiting Him to what He can do? Do we, mere creatures, have the power to kick out the Almighty Lord from any place?

    That God selected not to intervene, at least in the way I think He should have, utterly breaks my heart. I do not know, and will never know, why He stayed His hand. I join others in their pain as they ask, Why Lord? How could You have let this happen? Aren’t you more powerful than evil? Even as I read the Scriptures
    and messages about God and His response to suffering and evil, the answers give
    some light, but they do not satisfy my confused, limited mind and comfort my
    saddened heart.

    Why didn’t the Lord intervene? Those children, Lord, those children, they were defenseless, they were innocent of our sins, they didn’t even know the meaning of legislation. My God, how could You not have intervened?

    I don’t think I’ll ever know or understand why the Lord didn’t intervene in the way we think He should have. Who can say He did not? More could have been killed. I do not know. But these are what I know. I know the God I believe, this God of the Bible, loves every child and parent and teacher in this school with a fierceness and power that no evil or legislation can diminish or conquer. I do not know how He expressed His love for every child and teacher while the shooting was going on and as evil played itself out, but I am confident that He did demonstrate His love to them. How could He not? How could He not? Children have a special, unique place in His heart. He loves, that is His nature. He just doesn’t say it, He acts. Perhaps we will
    never know, but the children knew and will always remember. We have our
    convictions of the way He should have demonstrated His love to these precious
    children and to the teachers who sacrificed their lives in their attempts to
    stop the slaughter. But the sovereign, all powerful and relentlessly loving God
    declares: “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My
    ways. As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your
    ways and My thoughts than your thoughts,” (Isaiah 55: 8-9).

    I also know we live now in a world filled with evil, unrighteousness and myriad reasons to weep. But this world will not last. The living God is inviting people to a future new world where we can live free of evil, where “He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away,” (Revelation 21:4).

    But even in this imperfect world, we see good and beauty and heroism also. As Helen Keller said: “The world is full of suffering, but it is also full of overcoming.”

    I think it will be pleasing in the sight of the Lord if the Bible was honored and morality was taught in schools. But perhaps, in a demonstration of love to the suffering, let us not use this tragedy as a proof of God’s absence in schools and His consequent judgment. There are so many other issues that will need to be addressed: more security in schools, stricter gun possessions legislation, education on mental illness and what have you. And I pray laws will be enacted to help prevent more tragedies from happening.

    But for now, let us not add salt to injury for those hurting. Let us avoid the temptation of simplifying and reducing their tragedy to the “fact that God is not welcomed in our schools.”

    Our God will absolutely prevail over this evil. I pray that parents can survive the agony of the loss of their children, that marriages can overcome its impact, that the couples’ wedding vows can become solidified as they turn to each other and grieve together. I pray they will turn to the God of all comfort, the God who can heal their shattered hearts and bind their wounds. And I pray the children who survived and whose innocence was snapped out of their tender psyches will grow up knowing the tenderhearted Savior, the lover of their souls. I pray He will intervene in their lives; that they will come out liberated from the effects of this evil; that this tragedy will not define their history; and that they and the families of Newtown will recover and lead
    lives filled with joy. May God have mercy on them and on us all.

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