Thom Stark runs over Richard Carrier

I know, I know, but I like Thom. I do. Sure, we might disagree about a few things, or not, who knows, but I like the cut of his gib.

Anyway, he has taken on Richard Carrier’s, um, argument:

I’ll join in the fray, focusing on Carrier’s argument that some pre-Christian Jews held a belief in a dying Messiah. While this argument is not directly related to a mythicism argument, it is indirectly related in that, for Carrier, if it can be shown that some Jews held a belief in a dying Messiah prior to Christianity, then it cannot be argued that the idea of a dying Messiah could only have come about if one who was believed to have been the Messiah actually died in history (as with Jesus of Nazareth). Thus, the crucifixion of Jesus of Nazareth is not inconsistent with the Jesus Myth hypothesis. I’ll look at two major pieces of evidence Carrier provides for his thesis and show why they really come to naught, when examined properly.

What Thom does is actual scholarship. Good stuff. Give it a read.

Post By Joel Watts (10,086 Posts)

Joel L. Watts holds a Masters of Arts from United Theological Seminary with a focus in literary and rhetorical criticism of the New Testament. He is currently a Ph.D. student at the University of the Free State, analyzing Paul’s model of atonement in Galatians. He is the author of Mimetic Criticism of the Gospel of Mark: Introduction and Commentary (Wipf and Stock, 2013), a co-editor and contributor to From Fear to Faith: Stories of Hitting Spiritual Walls (Energion, 2013), and Praying in God's Theater, Meditations on the Book of Revelation (Wipf and Stock, 2014).

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