Oregon Offers Terminal Patients Doctor-Assisted Suicide Instead of Medical Care

This is disgusting:

Some terminally ill patients in Oregon who turned to their state for health care were denied treatment and offered doctor-assisted suicide instead, a proposal some experts have called a “chilling” corruption of medical ethics.

Since the spread of his prostate cancer, 53-year-old Randy Stroup of Dexter, Ore., has been in a fight for his life. Uninsured and unable to pay for expensive chemotherapy, he applied to Oregon’s state-run health plan for help.

Lane Individual Practice Association (LIPA), which administers the Oregon Health Plan in Lane County, responded to Stroup’s request with a letter saying the state would not cover Stroup’s pricey treatment, but would pay for the cost of physician-assisted suicide.

“It dropped my chin to the floor,” Stroup told FOX News. “[How could they] not pay for medication that would help my life, and yet offer to pay to end my life?

Oregon Offers Terminal Patients Doctor-Assisted Suicide Instead of Medical Care – America’s Future – FOXNews.com.

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42 thoughts on “Oregon Offers Terminal Patients Doctor-Assisted Suicide Instead of Medical Care

  1. “Rationing is all about the money and resources. ”

    I’d rather pay for insurance that allows ME to choose whether to have treatment or not. But I dont want to be forced to have to have insurance – again, its a choice.

    • It is a good thing then that you don’t live in Oregon.

      The man in this situation couldn’t afford health insurance so he had to turn to the state. The problem, however, is that the citizens of Oregon voted this system into place for their public insurance plan.

    • Uh no, not unless it’s the one in the mind of Glen Beck and Sarah Palin, neither of which I would trust to tell me if it was sun shining outside or not.

  2. WBMoore–

    I’ll echo the call of teabaggers: READ THE BILL. And don’t give me some crap about it being 2,000 pages–that’s just 2 Harry Potters.

    Death panels are a myth cooked up by Caribou Barbie and perpetuated by the likes of Glenn Beck, poster-boy for paranoid schizophrenia

  3. Robert,

    YOU go read it. http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf

    It speaks of the government deciding what is covered – sounds like rationed health care to me – just like Oregon.

    Yeah, death panels sound so ominous and big brother, dont they? But then go talk to the guy for whom the state would “not pay for medication that would help [his] life, and yet offer to pay to end [his] life. ”

    It pays for translation services – I love Latin folks (am one myself), I speak Spanish, but I’d rather my insurance pay for healthcare.

    The plans re outrageously expensive, for a supposed increase from 83% coverage to 94-96%.

    Lots of government speak: “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax”

    employers must pay – guess who will end up footing those costs? the consumer.

    It looks like the talking heads seem to have it right..

    If you want health insurance buy it. Dont force us to buy it – you are fined if you dont buy it (thus its against the law to not have it – making it a requirement of citizenship).

  4. you’re being reactive again, Joel.

    my comment about talking heads being right were from actually perusing the stupid bill and comparisons of the two bills. Almost all conservatives think its a bad deal. I happen to agree with them. I think its a bad deal. Its too expensive. It gets government, which has been proven to not be able to manage most things well or efficiently or cost effectively, overly involved in a critical part of life.

    And ANYTHING the AFLCIO says is good is automatically suspect.

    You don’t like the idea of the poor guy in your post not being given treatment? then don’t allow the government to decide what treatment is allowed.

    I find it interesting that Canadian leaders would rather come to the US and pay for service than rely upon the government system in Canada.

    http://winteryknight.wordpress.com/2010/02/02/canadian-provincial-leader-skips-waiting-lists-to-get-heart-surgery-in-the-usa/

    • Wb, I am merely pointing that that there are more facts out there worth listening to than the myths, lies, and stories spouting by ill-informed conservatives. That is not reactive. I am going for the truth. I happen to agree with the few conservatives, the more moderates and the many liberals who believe that we should provide for the ability of every citizen to live, even those who cannot afford health care.

      The problem with the picture in Oregon is that it was the people who decided these things. Because you have a tremendously bad case, doesn’t mean you cannot fix that and make the overall system better. Sorry, I’ve watched a few people die without adequate health care under this present system.

      And there are plenty of US people who go to Mexico, Canada, and India to get better, more inexpensive treatment.

      Further, while I myself don’t care for every statement of the AFL, I listed plenty more than just them, and from what should be considered somewhat neutral sources. The problem, in my opinion, is that people would rather listen to the talking heads on both sides than search out things for themselves. The real situation is, is that the things you have described aren’t included in any of the bills presented.

      You may have a philosophical stance against it, but that is different than listing myths as facts and basing a foundation of opposition thereon.

  5. its not the government’s job to provide health care to anyone. period.
    its not a ‘right’ and nor should it be.

    the government is already forcing us to pay for medicare and medicaid.

    • And see, that would be our basic philosophical disagreement on the issue. I think that a government should provide a reasonable ability to their citizens to live, especially in our modern world.

  6. Joel, I didn’t list myths. The quote “The tax imposed under this section shall not be treated as tax” is actually in the stupid bill. Go to it and search the PDF. Its really there. I meant it when I said lots of government speak.

    We will be forced to pay one way or another – the taxes plus the cost of health care or a fine – it will be illegal to not have health insurance and illegal to not provide it if you are an employer. Of course, I have a feeling it would be cheaper to pay the fine per employee and for the employees to get the government plan instead of paying the higher fees of providing health care coverage for the employees.

    We really need to stop forcing hospitals provide services for free, and we need to stop making the US public subsidize drug research – that’s part of what makes it so expensive.

    • Myth – the national healthcare plan is going to be similar

      Regarding your last paragraph – yeah, I can agree. I think that the first step to pushing health reform is to take a look at the mechanics of the current system, and to incorporate the insurance companies under the long standing anti-trust rules. Although Tort reform might not do ‘a lot’ I think that every bit counts.

      • I’ve got a feeling tort reform would go a long way toward reducing costs.

        Malpractice is a huge part of the cost of doing business as a doctor, for some specialities its the biggest part of it. I know when I lived in Miami, there were more than a few doctors making the conscious choice to not have malpractice insurance. It was either that or not be a doctor at all.

        • Here in WV, we are loosing doctors because of malpractice issues. The insurance rate had gotten so high, that they simply couldn’t afford it.

  7. I think a government should provide an environment where people can have an opportunity to make choices for themselves (whether to enter the military or not, whether to go to school or not, whether to work in such and such an industry, whether to move where there are jobs, whether to retrain for another industry, etc) and improve their lot.

    I have no problem with providing benefits (food, housing, clothing, health care) in return for work. But I have a problem with forcing people to subsidize anyone except the very needy (and even that I’m not convinced about). I think we as individuals should choose to help the needy and encourage others to want to do so, but I dont think the government should force it.

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