There’s an avalanche of hype about 2012, but is it just another sham or the beginning of the end?
In addition to the well-publicized ‘last date’ of the Mayan calendar cycle, some claim the Jewish Kabbalah books of Zohar predict the beginning of the seven year tribulation at the same time, as well as a prophecy by the Catholic ‘Saint Malachy’ about the next Pope being the final one.
However, Christ said that before the Great Tribulation, “many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many” (Matt. 24:11).
You pick it.
More at Zohar and the Arrival of the Jewish Messiah in 2012.
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Sham – nothing different from religious beliefs, conspiracy theories, fairy tales, etc…..
reality=evidence
Bill, what evidence do you need for religion, faith or God?
I don’t need any evidence. I’m only interested in evidence when I examine reality. At least the 2012 nutters make a testable statement, so we’ll be done with that in a few years. Of course, early Christians also made a prediction that Jesus would come back very soon for some unfinished business, but now Christians pretend that they really didn’t mean that. It would be great if modern Christianity would make a religious prediction so that we could quickly refute that religion as well. Alas, make-belief stuff has to remain vague and untestable, otherwise it soon dissappear.
The Bible predicts Jesus *could* return imminently at any time, but didn’t say specifically when He would. Some individuals indeed expected Christ’s return sooner throughout the last couple of thousand years, but God’s patience with men is indeed profound.
Okay, Bill, here you go.
I predict that many tomorrow will see the sun in the sky.
Wow, daring prediction Joel.
Hey Joel, it was fun hanging out at your site for a while, but it’s time for me to leave the world of faith and return to the world of evidence and reason. The more I read faith-based thinking the more I am starting to dislike Christianity and the more I am becoming a “new atheist”. It’s better for me to ignore the world of faith-based thinking than to become an angry “new atheist”. I’ll leave to to people like Dawkins. The world of evidence, reason, logic, facts and truth is far too interesting (and important) to be distracted by the troubling faith-based claims made by people who have no grip on reality. I wish you all the best!
Sham – nothing different from religious beliefs, conspiracy theories, fairy tales, etc…..
reality=evidence
Bill, what evidence do you need for religion, faith or God?
I don’t need any evidence. I’m only interested in evidence when I examine reality. At least the 2012 nutters make a testable statement, so we’ll be done with that in a few years. Of course, early Christians also made a prediction that Jesus would come back very soon for some unfinished business, but now Christians pretend that they really didn’t mean that. It would be great if modern Christianity would make a religious prediction so that we could quickly refute that religion as well. Alas, make-belief stuff has to remain vague and untestable, otherwise it soon dissappear.
The Bible predicts Jesus *could* return imminently at any time, but didn’t say specifically when He would. Some individuals indeed expected Christ’s return sooner throughout the last couple of thousand years, but God’s patience with men is indeed profound.
Okay, Bill, here you go.
I predict that many tomorrow will see the sun in the sky.
Wow, daring prediction Joel.
Hey Joel, it was fun hanging out at your site for a while, but it’s time for me to leave the world of faith and return to the world of evidence and reason. The more I read faith-based thinking the more I am starting to dislike Christianity and the more I am becoming a “new atheist”. It’s better for me to ignore the world of faith-based thinking than to become an angry “new atheist”. I’ll leave to to people like Dawkins. The world of evidence, reason, logic, facts and truth is far too interesting (and important) to be distracted by the troubling faith-based claims made by people who have no grip on reality. I wish you all the best!
We to official the bible says god will comea next time but with fire thats what he told noah and he said you will not know the time or place. so all you idiots sending millions on underground houses and supplies their just making money while you get broke and why would you not want to go heaven or maybe their just hiding from going to hell. so you decide if you wnat to waste your money. the only reason i would beleif if god came an d saind its time for me to take you all back.
are you sure that’s how it happened?